Izuna

[insanemonkey]

I don't think Tobirama was on Izuna's level. In the manga it stated Izuna and Madara were equals in every way. I bet since Tobirama is a mean guy, Izuna was busy fighting Hashirama, while Madara was somewhere else, so Tobirama took advantage of this and used Space-Time flying thunder god slash to mortally wound Izuna. Also I think Izuna and Tobirama really hate each other cuz Tobirama hates Uchiha, while Izuna has huge Uchiha pride. So yeah... Tobirama caugt Izuna off guard.

 

[villain55]

That's why izuna is dead by that wound by tobirama but hey you izuna>tobirama and i bet they were just fighting each other 1 on 1

 

[insanemonkey]

That's why izuna is dead by that wound by tobirama but hey you izuna>tobirama

I know cuz Tobirama looks fresh, while Izuna was way more damaged. So I think he was fighting Hashirama and Tobirama came and hit him

 

[Mellanoma]

I don't think Tobirama was on Izuna's level. In the manga it stated Izuna and Madara were equals in every way. I bet since Tobirama is a mean guy, Izuna was busy fighting Hashirama, while Madara was somewhere else, so Tobirama took advantage of this and used Space-Time flying thunder god slash to mortally wound Izuna. Also I think Izuna and Tobirama really hate each other cuz Tobirama hates Uchiha, while Izuna has huge Uchiha pride. So yeah... Tobirama caugt Izuna off guard.

He wasn't caught off guard Izuna was facing Tobirama but I will say S/T jutsu > everything else

So maybe that was Tobirama first time perfecting it but from the looks of it Izuna didnt have much time to respond.

 

[villain55]

I know cuz Tobirama looks fresh, while Izuna was way more damaged. So I think he was fighting Hashirama and Tobirama came and hit him

You can't prove that though i could say he was just stronger than izuna and took him out by himself with S/T justu

 

[insanemonkey]

He wasn't caught off guard Izuna was facing Tobirama but I will say S/T jutsu > everything else

So maybe that was Tobirama first time perfecting it but from the looks of it Izuna didnt have much time to respond.

then how come when he got slashed, he had the "!!?" cuz he was shocked and surprised

 

[pandu]

May be Tobirama>Izuna

 

[villain55]

then how come when he got slashed, he had the "!!?" cuz he was shocked and surprised

Maybe because he was surprise that he got slash and how fast tobirama is

 

[Mellanoma]

then how come when he got slashed, he had the "!!?" cuz he was shocked and surprised

Like I said in the quote that you quoted lol... Tobirama probably never used S/T and it surprised Izuna.

 

[P3ĮÑ]

No matter how u put it, tobirama beat him is it really that hard

 

[Uchihabrat1560]

We still don't know that Tobirama's Space time ninjutus is FTG technique.. Tobirama wouldn't have been as weak as you think he is.. he really was a badass and getting an Uchiha off guard is hard as they have predictive power.. we still don't know what power his Mangekyo Sharingan ( Izuna's ) had.. maybe it was his power of reversing and FFding of time..

 

[wildstorm]

Izuna was younger than Madara, similarly Tobirama was younger than Hashi, & I'd say they were equal at same age, ie when izuna died, he was equally powerful as Madara (when he was izuna's age) It was almost similar for Senju brothers
However, Hashi was stronger than Madara, & so Tobirama being stronger than izuna is most likely possible, & I believe thats the way it is..

 

[uchihadesendent]

lol izuna is dead and tobirama became the hokage what does that tell you?

 

[zesto]

Izuna>>>>Tobirama, i dont remember kishimoto saying tobirama was equal to hashirama, but Madara was equal to hashirama or almost who's brother was completely on the same level with him, which makes his brother equal to hashirama also.

 

[Oriver]

I don't think Tobirama was on Izuna's level. In the manga it stated Izuna and Madara were equals in every way. I bet since Tobirama is a mean guy, Izuna was busy fighting Hashirama, while Madara was somewhere else, so Tobirama took advantage of this and used Space-Time flying thunder god slash to mortally wound Izuna. Also I think Izuna and Tobirama really hate each other cuz Tobirama hates Uchiha, while Izuna has huge Uchiha pride. So yeah... Tobirama caugt Izuna off guard.

Basically . . . . You saying Tobi > Madara

ORiver

 

[KCMNaruto]

Izuna was equal to Madara that true, but only when they had both MS. Besides Kishi will probably retcon that Tobirama was stronger than we think.

Izuna's abilites:

- Fire release (very powerfull as Madara's)
- Taijutsu equal to Madara's taijutsu (Izuna equal to Madara in every way)
- Genjutsu equal to Madara's genjutsu (so it was at the worst good)
- Kenjutsu equal to Madara's kenjutsu (it was quite good, as Madara attacked four division in current war)
- mastery of three tomoe sharingan
- MS: Sussano(Madara' Sussano has two faces, so Izuna had it too), Tsyukomi and Amaterasu(Databook)

Tobirama:

- Water release (very powerfull)
- huge amount of chakra
- Great Kenjutsu(killing Izuna while caught off guard)
- Great Taijutsu (strong body)
- Uknown genjutsu (intelligent so he should be good)
- sensory skill
- sage mode (assumption)

Tobirama and Izuna were close to each other level, I could even say that they were equal.

IMO:

Izuna=Tobirama(when Izuna was living)< MS Madara(just slightly stronger)=< Tobirama<< EMS Madara=< base Hashirama< EMS Madara + kurama <=Sage mode Hashirama