Izanami will/will not work on these people

[SumnNarutoRelated]

(this is all pre chapter 700, as chances are everyone at this point can withstand Izanami)


Naruto: WILL NOT - Unwavering Idealist. At one point it would've been possible to have him change his ways about saving Sasuke, but once he completed the waterfall of truth challenge, any doubt left within him is now eradicated.


Sasuke: WILL - Cynical Idealist. At any other point in the manga, Izanami is the perfect technique to defeat Sasuke with. His mind and goals fluctuates way too much and Izanami will probably keep him in limbo for a long time.

*However as an adult, Sasuke has never been more sure about the world and his goals. He's a true savior and has accepted love and responsibility with a new candor*


Sakura: WILL NOT - Mature Shinobi. Unlike Sasuke, Sakura discovered exactly who she was during the Team 7 War reunion. Even though her love for Sasuke always seemed detrimental to a fault, she has a very focused mind and will be able to withstand Izanami very quickly.


Kakashi: WILL - Past Dweller. The revelation of Obito still being alive basically told everyone that using Izanami on Kakashi would incapacitate him indefinitely until he can get over his regret.

Guy: ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT - Supreme Optimist. There is no other individual in the manga that can resist Izanami as surely as Might Gai. No one is more absolutely sure and positive on what their goals and dreams are. Gai never wavers, he never doubts, he never abstains and never second-guesses.

Madara: WILL NOT - Absolute Overseer. A man who has as unbelievable foresight as Madara cannot and will not be susceptible to Izanami. If there is anyone who can probably counter Izanami with an entirely new Jutsu, its probably Madara.

Obito: WILL - Incredulous yet dubious. Obito seem to be very sure of what he wanted for his world and the people in it. However, it seem even he couldn't let go of his original dreams and Izanami would be the perfect resort for Obito to spend in mulling over his goals.

Itachi: ????? - Well, we really don't know if Itachi would succumb to Izanami. He has expressed many regrets for his actions but at the time in which he was carrying out his decisions he's never seemed more sure. Its not so much to doubt if what you're doing is right, as it is to know if you're doing it for the right reasons. In this way, Itachi was always right as he always did what was right for the betterment of mankind and not for his own selfish reasons.

Madara may be able to counter Izanami, and Gai may be impervious to it, but only would someone like Itachi be able to live comfortably inside Izanami, welcoming its habitat and appreciating its existence. Reveling in everything it has to offer and the beauty as to why it was ever created in the first place.

 

[VongolaX]

You basically stated that Izanami (an uchiha kinjustu) is going to work against these advance Uchihas and Kakashi?

^^It's not

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

You basically stated that Izanami (an uchiha kinjustu) is going to work against these advance Uchihas and Kakashi?

^^It's not

uhhh izanami worked on many Uchihas in the past. In fact, it was DESIGNED to work on Uchihas exclusively. it works on them better than anyone if anything

 

[The Necromancer]

Anyone who has ever used Izanagi can be affected by Izanami. That was the whole purpose. As such, Obito, Danzo, and Madara can all be trapped by Izanami.

Secondly, Gai has had his doubtful moments, at least about his youth, anyway. But I don't really think that would be considered meeting the conditions.

 

[VongolaX]

uhhh izanami worked on many Uchihas in the past. In fact, it was DESIGNED to work on Uchihas exclusively. it works on them better than anyone if anything

On them it worked but these advanced Uchihas?

Nope, there's not only a counter to it but there is also knowledge. If Izanami was the way to go, two uchiha's would be caught inside of it. There's a reason why it wasn't attempted.

Izanami was specifically designed to counter izanagi, not uchihas exclusively.

 

[Nagi]

Umm it wouldn't work on Sasuke. Sasuke is the only character in NV that is truly pure. Kishi even stated this himself that Sasuke is pure. Nothing is confuse about Sasuke at all. He ain't trying to be anybody or run away from anything. So Izanami wouldn't work on him.

 

[Shroud]

On them it worked but these advanced Uchihas?

Nope, there's not only a counter to it but there is also knowledge. If Izanami was the way to go, two uchiha's would be caught inside of it. There's a reason why it wasn't attempted.

Izanami was specifically designed to counter izanagi, not uchihas exclusively.

but unless you know a certain snake or you face up against a entire clan because you attack one uchiha all of them will come after your ass for one set of eyes then only uchihas can use izanagi

 

[VongolaX]

but unless you know a certain snake or you face up against a entire clan because you attack one uchiha all of them will come after your ass for one set of eyes then only uchihas can use izanagi

Danzo can use incomplete izanagi which Izanami will work well agaisnt.

I didn't get the clan part you mentioned.

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

Anyone who has ever used Izanagi can be affected by Izanami. That was the whole purpose. As such, Obito, Danzo, and Madara can all be trapped by Izanami.

Secondly, Gai has had his doubtful moments, at least about his youth, anyway. But I don't really think that would be considered meeting the conditions.

Kabuto has never used Izanagi and yet had Izanami placed on him. Do you people not know the purpose of that Jutsu?

 

[The Necromancer]

Kabuto has never used Izanagi and yet had Izanami placed on him. Do you people not know the purpose of that Jutsu?

I didn't say that was the only purpose... U_U

Those who use izanagi are automatically valid, as they are automatically unsure about themselves.

You could have connected those dots yourself if you weren't so defensive out of nowhere.

 

[LuckyMan]

The only ones from that list thats its guaranteed to fail on is Gai, Naruto, and Madara.

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

I didn't say that was the only purpose... U_U

Those who use izanagi are automatically valid, as they are automatically unsure about themselves.

You could have connected those dots yourself if you weren't so defensive out of nowhere.

i apologize. that second part was mostly directed at the rhetoric of the comments so far and not necessarily to u

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

The only ones from that list thats its guaranteed to fail on is Gai, Naruto, and Madara.

i agree. Sakura is iffy because of her love for sasuke but i think if she got caught in it, she would break out relatively quicker than most

 

[VongolaX]

What Izanami was created for, just in case people didn't know:

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[Nick01]

I agree with this list. Hinata, Jiraiya, and Minato also wouldn't fall prey to it.

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

What Izanami was created for, just in case people didn't know:

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surely, but it can also be used on those who don't use Izanagi

its much less a jutsu, than it is a self-reflecting mirror


EDIT: Most surprising is that most of Akatsuki can probably resist Izanami, however, the most powerful members in Akatsuki wouldn't be able to.

Nagato, Obito and Itachi would all probably fall to it. The rest i can't see succumbing to it

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Are you sure about Might Guy? When he looked into the Waterfall of Truth he was met with a dark side which told him he was pathetic for still gallivanting about youth when he was old. Guy has insecurities.

I'm not so sure Killer Bee would succumb to it though, the guy's had a tough time but he's completely light-hearted or at least we don't know enough about him.

We don't know enough about Hinata's resolution with her clan to know whether she's immune. I'd say her closeted insecurities through the series mixed with Neji's death is more than enough. Girl's had a tough time. Jiraiya and Madara IMO fall under it's spell. They don't seem like they would but they both carry a lot that they don't deal with- they don't mull it over and instead have different coping mechanisms but it's all still on them.

The moment Naruto accepted Dark Naruto as part of him and he disappeared, he became immune to Izanami

 

[VongolaX]

surely, but it can also be used on those who don't use Izanagi

its much less a jutsu, than it is a self-reflecting mirror

Exactly, agreed.

EDIT: Most surprising is that most of Akatsuki can probably resist Izanami, however, the most powerful members in Akatsuki wouldn't be able to.

Nagato, Obito and Itachi would all probably fall to it. The rest i can't see succumbing to it

How?

Izanami is purposed for those to not run from the truth. Right?

Which one of these three characters tried to run from the truth?

I know Kabuto did.

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

Are you sure about Might Guy? When he looked into the Waterfall of Truth he was met with a dark side which told him he was pathetic for still gallivanting about youth when he was old. Guy has insecurities.

I'm not so sure Killer Bee would succumb to it though, the guy's had a tough time but he's completely light-hearted or at least we don't know enough about him.

We don't know enough about Hinata's resolution with her clan to know whether she's immune. I'd say her closeted insecurities through the series mixed with Neji's death is more than enough. Girl's had a tough time. Jiraiya and Madara IMO fall under it's spell. They don't seem like they would but they both carry a lot that they don't deal with- they don't mull it over and instead have different coping mechanisms but it's all still on them.

The moment Naruto accepted Dark Naruto as part of him and he disappeared, he became immune to Izanami

theres plentyyyyyyy of characters who would and wouldn't succumb, i only listed a few. I was hoping more people will list some there own.

As far as Gai is concerned, you and I both know that was Kisame in the waterfall lol but what Kisame was saying could be interpreted as true. However, we've seen way more occasions where Gai was faced with instances where his morale could've got the best of him but he always rose above it.

Just look at how he was as a kid. I hardly think being told you're old is enough to keep someone in Izanami. That's not a deep, heavy issue for Gai i don't think

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

Exactly, agreed.




How?

Izanami is purposed for those to not run from the truth. Right?

Which one of these three characters tried to run from the truth?

I know Kabuto did.

Nagato was TNJ'd by Naruto. His truth was severely tainted. Nuff said

Obito I listed already in the OP

and Itachi as mentioned in the OP, I'm on the fence about. I was hoping someone can give a good reason as to why or why not Itachi would fall under.

But the rest of Akatsuki are confident killers that know exactly who they are. Deidara, Hidan and Kakuzu probably being on the top of that list