Izanami Deciphered

[BlackBison]

Before I go into this thread, I just want to say one thing. I am in no way trying to de-hype, make fun of, or hype up any of the three characters involved in the uchiha brothers and kabuto fight. I will try to not make this too long ,but I feel as this might be long. Sorry about this in advance and I will put a summary at the end to help those who don't feel like reading everything.

I am 99.9% sure I have figured out the most complex jutsu that was introduced into the naruto-verse. Izanami is a complex jutsu that has most if not all of naruto fans baffled on how it works. This is because of the explanation kishi has given on this particular jutsu. Now I want to show how one panel turns this complex jutsu into something as easy as 1,2,3.

In the fight of the uchiha brothers vs kabuto, it was shown that kabuto was going toe to toe with the Itachi and sasuke in the real world. But was this the case or another one of Itachi's illusions?

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In the above images the first image shows something that I believe is overlooked. That is Itachi's eye and then in the second image kabuto's reaction. These two images are very important because in this thread you will see both again with a slight twist.

I believe this was the activation point of Izanami. Itachi confirms with by saying, " Its already prepared."

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Now lets skip all the action of the fight and go into the completion of Izanami along with the explanation of how this jutsu goes about being completely activated.

The below image shows a very interesting picture.

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Anyone sees it? Its okay if you don't see it since i'm going to point out what i'm talking about. Take a look at the top left side of the page where you see Itachi's face. Why would kishi block out his left eye but show us his right. I believe that kishi is trying to see if we are paying attention to the close details of his manga. Kishi is most likely telling us that the jutsu has been activated.

Now the following images shows us a very interesting story. Also, pay attention to the second to last image since what I said under my first spoiler tag finally comes into play.

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Now some people might be like bro, the first three images shows nothing that important. Well let me explain whats going on.

So in the first image at the bottom of the page, you can see Itachi right eye is now officially in the blind category. Now the next three images shows sasuke throwing his sword, kabuto then catching the sword, and stabbing Itachi. Wait but wasn't Itachi cut into two pieces a second ago. Lets go back and take a look at the third image. At the bottom left of the page Itachi vanishes. Now i'm no expert on edo tensei but i'm pretty sure that the reanimated ninja recovers not vanishes. Now it time to look at the final image. Remember what I said in the sentence below my first spoiler. Yeah, the twist though is Itachi right eye is now faded. Now its finally time to put all the information I typed and explain how this technique truly works.

So at first I believed that kabuto was shocked to see Itachi's eyes faded when he stabbed him again. Then I realized it wasn't Itachi's eye that shocked him, but the fact that Itachi appeared out of nowhere onto his sword. But wait if Itachi appeared out of nowhere ,then how did Itachi establish the second point needed( A') in creating the loop.

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Well what I am thinking is that once the first point is established for the loop (i.e. the first time Itachi got stabbed in the chest by kabuto), then the caster can choose when to activate the jutsu resulting in the immediate case of that scenario being replicated. This means that Izanami is impossible to stop because once the first loop is established(A), then the second loop(A') will follow no matter what.

This would explain sasuke throwing his sword and kabuto catching it, itachi vanishing, and Itachi appearing out of nowhere onto the sword kabuto is holding oddly stabbing him through the chest.

Now I came to this conclusion after looking at these pages

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The same events get replicated, but were altered from the original event. This means the events will happen, but how they happen can be different.


To sum everything up, Izanami is a jutsu that is impossible to counter or stop. Once the first loop(A) is established, the second loop(A') will follow since upon finishing the activation of the jutsu all events will happen. This means that it is not required of Itachi to replicate the previous event, since activating the jutsu completely will replicate the events automatically.

Thank you for reading and sorry for it being long and/or messy.

 

[Awkward Linguist]

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Good thread anyways.

 

[Mitarashi]

His eye is not shown due to the light being taken from it to activate Izanami..

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[Edo Odin]

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Good thread anyways.

How would you even know if you didn't read?

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[AGoodBoy]

So, basically, Kabuto was caught in izanami from the first second he stabbed itachi

Side note: you're wrong about one thing. You said itachi vanished. Well, he didn't, that was itachi's figure appearing and moving through the smoke created by the collision of Kabuto's suiton and sasuke's katon.

 

[BlackBison]

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Good thread anyways.

Wow, this is a first for me since this is the longest thread i ever made. I now know how people feel when someone posts this on their thread. Thanks but, I would rather you say that after reading at least the summary of my thread.

His eye is not shown due to the light being taken from it to activate Izanami..

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Itachi used his right eye to activate Izanami. Kishi darken his left to fully show us Itachi had indeed succeeded in activating Izanami.

 

[brownbear]

Good work son. Id give you a sticker if I had one.

 

[Mypower]

Interesting I was thinking the same thing. This deserves R ep+

 

[Mitarashi]

Itachi used his right eye to activate Izanami. Kishi darken his left to fully show us Itachi had indeed succeeded in activating Izanami.

How does that make sense.

 

[BlackBison]

So, basically, Kabuto was caught in izanami from the first second he stabbed itachi

Side note: you're wrong about one thing. You said itachi vanished. Well, he didn't, that was itachi's figure appearing and moving through the smoke created by the collision of Kabuto's suiton and sasuke's katon.

Yes basically at the cost of one of Itachi's eyes, kabuto was set in a trap that was unadvoidable early in their fight.

That makes since fire and water creates smoke that on drawing, makes it seem as if Itachi is vanishing. Noted thank you for the correction.

Good work son. Id give you a sticker if I had one.

Thank you

 

[Awkward Linguist]

How would you even know if you didn't read?

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Because the effort placed into his single post far exceeds the sum of your effort in your 9,531 effortless posts.

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[Edo Odin]

Because the effort placed into his single post far exceeds the sum of your effort in your 9,531 effortless posts.

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Well, can't really argue with that one.

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[BlackBison]

How does that make sense.

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If you're talking about this picture, kishi darkened his left eye(not the eye he used for izanami) and clearly shows his right eye(the one used for activating Izanami). In the next page you see itachi right eye is indeed faded showing he is blind in one eye now.

 

[3MESSIAH]

so what you`re saying is that kabuto was caught in izanami the second itachi created event A??

this was event A.

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and this was A` and when izanami activated

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[KGB Kakuzu]

A good thought, but the analysis doesn't follow Itachi's explanation.

Itachi explains that Izanami requires the recording of multiple points in order to establish a loop: From what we saw, points A, B, and C. From what we know, at least three real life points need to be made.


By your argument, point A (stab to the chest) was all that was needed.


Izanami requires multiple real points. The jutsu operates by recording several real moments, and then, after matching up the original point, it creates an ultimate loop.

Points A-C create the necessary limit for creating a loop; however, these do not create the loop. To create the loop, the series needs to start over. Namely, point A must be replicated to A' in order to start it. Thus, point A' must also be a real point.


Thus, A, B, C, and A' are real points in life. Only after they are established can the loop begin. Itachi says its already been prepared. Not started. This means it hasn't been activated. Thus when he finally says Izanami activates at A', the jutsu begins.

The use of covering his eye is made to symbolize he's currently working on establishing Izanami.

 

[3MESSIAH]

A good thought, but the analysis doesn't follow Itachi's explanation.

Itachi explains that Izanami requires the recording of multiple points in order to establish a loop: From what we saw, points A, B, and C. From what we know, at least three real life points need to be made.


By your argument, point A (stab to the chest) was all that was needed.


Izanami requires multiple real points. The jutsu operates by recording several real moments, and then, after matching up the original point, it creates an ultimate loop.

Points A-C create the necessary limit for creating a loop; however, these do not create the loop. To create the loop, the series needs to start over. Namely, point A must be replicated to A' in order to start it. Thus, point A' must also be a real point.


Thus, A, B, C, and A' are real points in life. Only after they are established can the loop begin. Itachi says its already been prepared. Not started. This means it hasn't been activated. Thus when he finally says Izanami activates at A', the jutsu begins.

The use of covering his eye is made to symbolize he's currently working on establishing Izanami.

i definitely couldnt describe it as perfectly as this XD

 

[Deleted member 87095]

Omg... Im not trying to hate or something, but wasnt this obvious from the start? I mean really...

 

[BlackBison]

so what you`re saying is that kabuto was caught in izanami the second itachi created event A??

this was event A.

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and this was A` and when izanami activated

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Basically, he was trapped but not in a genjutsu yet. Later Itachi activates the ultimate loop of (A) and (A') which, activates this genjutsu trap called Izanami.

A good thought, but the analysis doesn't follow Itachi's explanation.

Itachi explains that Izanami requires the recording of multiple points in order to establish a loop: From what we saw, points A, B, and C. From what we know, at least three real life points need to be made.


By your argument, point A (stab to the chest) was all that was needed.


Izanami requires multiple real points. The jutsu operates by recording several real moments, and then, after matching up the original point, it creates an ultimate loop.

Points A-C create the necessary limit for creating a loop; however, these do not create the loop. To create the loop, the series needs to start over. Namely, point A must be replicated to A' in order to start it. Thus, point A' must also be a real point.


Thus, A, B, C, and A' are real points in life. Only after they are established can the loop begin. Itachi says its already been prepared. Not started. This means it hasn't been activated. Thus when he finally says Izanami activates at A', the jutsu begins.

The use of covering his eye is made to symbolize he's currently working on establishing Izanami.

Points A,B, and C was established since A had to happen before B and C happened right after B. Kabuto gets a hold of sasuke's sword(A), then he proceeds to stab Itachi through the chest(B), and after Itachi turns into crows(C).

About the whole points not creating the loop I agree. If my thread made it sound like the points created the loop then i'm sorry it wasn't meant to sound like that. I merely meant that Itachi established loop(A),but the loop hasn't been activated yet. Upon the repeat of certain events, then loop(A') is created which created the ultimate loop.

 

[Disquiet]

Nice thread. I can't wait to see the databook on it though.

A good thought, but the analysis doesn't follow Itachi's explanation.

Itachi explains that Izanami requires the recording of multiple points in order to establish a loop: From what we saw, points A, B, and C. From what we know, at least three real life points need to be made.


By your argument, point A (stab to the chest) was all that was needed.


Izanami requires multiple real points. The jutsu operates by recording several real moments, and then, after matching up the original point, it creates an ultimate loop.

Points A-C create the necessary limit for creating a loop; however, these do not create the loop. To create the loop, the series needs to start over. Namely, point A must be replicated to A' in order to start it. Thus, point A' must also be a real point.


Thus, A, B, C, and A' are real points in life. Only after they are established can the loop begin. Itachi says its already been prepared. Not started. This means it hasn't been activated. Thus when he finally says Izanami activates at A', the jutsu begins.

The use of covering his eye is made to symbolize he's currently working on establishing Izanami.

Here is the Viz:

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I'm going to emphasize the part that's most important:


"So you basically grab an action from your opponent. Focus your ocular powers to snap a record of any senses that both you and your opponent are both feeling during that instant. Then, you recreate those feelings..."

^There's no ellipsis in the Viz, but I'm going to explicate my point.

"Wait, how do you recreate those feelings, Itachi?"

Wait, for it, he's going to say....

"So you're using your ocular powers to create an exact copy of exhibit A."


^ That explanation is undeniable. He doesn't need contact a second time; he recreates solely from the power of his eyes.

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

Nice thread. I can't wait to see the databook on it though.





Here is the Viz:

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I'm going to emphasize the part that's most important:


"So you basically grab an action from your opponent. Focus your ocular powers to snap a record of any senses that both you and your opponent are both feeling during that instant. Then, you recreate those feelings..."

^There's no ellipsis in the Viz, but I'm going to explicate my point.

"Wait, how do you recreate those feelings, Itachi?"

Wait, for it, he's going to say....

"So you're using your ocular powers to create an as exact copy of exhibit A."


^ That explanation is undeniable. He doesn't need contact a second time; he recreates solely from the power of his eyes.

The fact it wasn't specifically states for what Itachi would say prevents it from being undeniable, and thus we'd have to wait on Kishi for the proper explanation. I would say the context of Viz supports my phrasing just as much as yours.

1. Look at A ====> A'. This says "time flow" meaning there is a definite glow of time AKA: real events. Now, while this also suggests that he could instantaneously make A' visually, the bottom right text also promotes the idea that doesn't
Itachi, " By overlaying and connecting A to A'... The Izanami links a path between any events that occurred between those two points."

Time is the general progression of life, or reality as we know it. The underline indicates time of events occurring between A and A'. Thus, B, C, and Points Between would have to have transpired. With the only information we have, Itachi says using his power between Ocular Prowess and skill to perfectly recreate A as A'.


Based on what we have, we can only assume he had to recreate it realistically. It could be suggested otherwise, but it isn't specifically stated.



Furthermore, note when he says Izanami Activate. Notice from then on, the confrontation intervals are relatively brief between initial and repeat phases. There's no point showing this entire sequence if he's in the genjutsu. Especially compared to the other loops. The argument could be made that Itachi just waited, but he wanted to help Kabuto. Thus he'd have immediately activated it.

For now, even with the Viz translation it would more logically indicate my explanation. But naturally it's plausible for the other to exist.