It's SAO a good anime?

[Vulpini]

I don't know what that is, but SOA is a pretty good TV series.

 

[Guntah]

HAHAHAHAHA! No, SAO is horrible. It started out as trash and it went from that to absolute shit. I seriously hate how much wasted potential this series has.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

It's pretty average anime. It started as a good thing but it went downhill really fast.

The main character and his GF started to act like adults when they were just kids. They even adopted a little child who was 6-7 years younger than them. Both of the characters were parenting a little kid at the age of 13/14 years. It's so sick.

I dropped it without watching the whole season because it was a messed up fck shit.

I would recommend you to watch Pokemon instead of this thing.

 

[Guntah]

if you gave me naruto's 50 best episodes Id say the first 50 episodes of SAO are better

This is sig worthy.

 

[Umari Senju]

1st arc was great. The others?.....meh.

 

[Dizzldot]

This is sig worthy.

Sorry that the animation quality is SAO>>>>>>>>any naruto by far
sorry the naruto story was so long and boring it shot itself in the foot all the time
Id say naruto is the better series just because of world setting and how cool it is but if we are being real about it episode for episode SAO is better

 

[Guntah]

Sorry that the animation quality is SAO>>>>>>>>any naruto by far
sorry the naruto story was so long and boring it shot itself in the foot all the time
Id say naruto is the better series just because of world setting and how cool it is but if we are being real about it episode for episode SAO is better

Oh....you're serious. :|

Okay...its well animated and well choreographed for the most part, I'll give you that, but in the end, its still a thirteen year old's power fantasy. I understand the flaws with Naruto as a series on the long run, trust me, I do....but putting SAO above it? Really? Can you honestly think of any other major strength of the series other than the animation and fights?

 

[Dizzldot]

Oh....you're serious. :|

Okay...its well animated and well choreographed for the most part, I'll give you that, but in the end, its still a thirteen year old's power fantasy. I understand the flaws with Naruto as a series on the long run, trust me, I do....but putting SAO above it? Really? Can you honestly think of any other major strength of the series other than the animation and fights?

I said episode for episode I would rather watch SAO, as a manga and series as a whole Naruto obviously wins the naruto manga got shat on by the anime a lot the episodes were so long winded and even action packed episodes weren't that action packed lol at least SAO gives a good action to boring development ratio. The good thing with short series like gun dam for example is they take the same concept and make an entirely new storyline and cram it into 50 episodes so yeah at the end you wish there was more but there is never a dull moment during the tim. Naruto had episodes not even worth watching and you still know whats happening

 

[Guntah]

I said episode for episode I would rather watch SAO, as a manga and series as a whole Naruto obviously wins the naruto manga got shat on by the anime a lot the episodes were so long winded and even action packed episodes weren't that action packed lol at least SAO gives a good action to boring development ratio. The good thing with short series like gun dam for example is they take the same concept and make an entirely new storyline and cram it into 50 episodes so yeah at the end you wish there was more but there is never a dull moment during the tim. Naruto had episodes not even worth watching and you still know whats happening

Okay....no. Liking SAO for the action that contrasts with the boring development is not a good reason. Especially when, in the first season alone, half of the episodes go by without one proper fight scene. The rest is either Kirito adding someone to his Harem or doing something unrelated to the main plot, if there is even one. And yes, I get the idea of an episodic series, but it is still pointless if, for all they do, the characters and the world around them still remain almost completely unaffected. That formula can be done right, Samurai Champloo pulls it off amazingly, but not by SAO. As for Naruto...the series spends a lot of time in development, but this is at least the development of an interesting world with interesting characters. Which is already more that can be said for SAO.

As for the earlier comment on 50 best episodes...having watched the entirety of Season 1, which is considered the best by most people, I still saw nothing that gets even close to the three episodes encompassing Naruto and Sasuke's fight.

 

[Dizzldot]

Okay....no. Liking SAO for the action that contrasts with the boring development is not a good reason. Especially when, in the first season alone, half of the episodes go by without one proper fight scene. The rest is either Kirito adding someone to his Harem or doing something unrelated to the main plot, if there is even one. And yes, I get the idea of an episodic series, but it is still pointless if, for all they do, the characters and the world around them still remain almost completely unaffected. That formula can be done right, Samurai Champloo pulls it off amazingly, but not by SAO. As for Naruto...the series spends a lot of time in development, but this is at least the development of an interesting world with interesting characters. Which is already more that can be said for SAO.

As for the earlier comment on 50 best episodes...having watched the entirety of Season 1, which is considered the best by most people, I still saw nothing that gets even close to the three episodes encompassing Naruto and Sasuke's fight.

I stick by my gundam comment, Naruto will never fit anything close to the development and emotion those series can fit into 50 episodes and its not episodic at all, they tell an entire war story in fifty episodes while giving you details on the science behind the mecha along with history of the universe. Naruto in 700 episodes gave us barely any shinobi history besides the war arc basically.
SAO ill give it to you that it is very "immature" but then again saying naruto is mature is just stupid af its one of the least mature series around and the character development sucks but it is fun to watch and very easy to get into which makes its so global. And the "development" you speak of I would love to see it because I have never seen any character development in naruto bar itachi, gaara, sasuke. every other character is mostly one dimensional. SAO fits ALOT into a short amount of time thats all Im saying i never said it was superior but I would rather watch 50 SAO episodes in a row then 50 Naruto episodes

 

[InfiniteMugen]

I've heard first season/run was good but the 2nd wasn't? How would those that have seen both compare it to akame ga kill?(I only ask because agk seems just as polarizing to most)

 

[Guntah]

I stick by my gundam comment, Naruto will never fit anything close to the development and emotion those series can fit into 50 episodes and its not episodic at all, they tell an entire war story in fifty episodes while giving you details on the science behind the mecha along with history of the universe. Naruto in 700 episodes gave us barely any shinobi history besides the war arc basically.

Congrats for Gundam. But we're not talking about Gundam. It might have its fair share of development in fifty episodes, but if we're talking about SAO, it not only IS very episodic, nothing against the premise of being episodic by itself, as I said, it can work if done properly, but it lacks both relevant examples of emotion and development you describe it to have.

SAO ill give it to you that it is very "immature" but then again saying naruto is mature is just stupid af its one of the least mature series around and the character development sucks but it is fun to watch and very easy to get into which makes its so global. And the "development" you speak of I would love to see it because I have never seen any character development in naruto bar itachi, gaara, sasuke. every other character is mostly one dimensional. SAO fits ALOT into a short amount of time thats all Im saying i never said it was superior but I would rather watch 50 SAO episodes in a row then 50 Naruto episodes

You're trying to argue there is no character development in Naruto? I mean, you could try and argue there is no GOOD character development, but NO character development at all....oh, boy.

Few examples.

Naruto goes from loud idiotic yet idealistic brat to cheerful idealistic yet promising Shinobi, Hinata comes out of her shell as the series goes on, Neji goes from jerk obsessed with destiny to cool guy who values his family, Madara goes from idealistic kid to warmonger, Obito goes from hero to villain and back to hero again, Kakashi goes from stuck up brat to a far more chill yet possibly PTSD'd dude, Nagato goes from idealistic kid to rough pragmatist and back to idealist....really, I could go on for a while.

 

[Dizzldot]

Congrats for Gundam. But we're not talking about Gundam. It might have its fair share of development in fifty episodes, but if we're talking about SAO, it not only IS very episodic, nothing against the premise of being episodic by itself, as I said, it can work if done properly, but it lacks both relevant examples of emotion and development you describe it to have.



You're trying to argue there is no character development in Naruto? I mean, you could try and argue there is no GOOD character development, but NO character development at all....oh, boy.

Few examples.

Naruto goes from loud idiotic yet idealistic brat to cheerful idealistic yet promising Shinobi, Hinata comes out of her shell as the series goes on, Neji goes from jerk obsessed with destiny to cool guy who values his family, Madara goes from idealistic kid to warmonger, Obito goes from hero to villain and back to hero again, Kakashi goes from stuck up brat to a far more chill yet possibly PTSD'd dude, Nagato goes from idealistic kid to rough pragmatist and back to idealist....really, I could go on for a while.

Yes but everything you just named wasn't "development" it was a quick change of heart in like five seconds and tbh I love naruto but he did not change that much until he became hokage his character has been the same since the beginning and hinata never came out of her shell lol she said like five words that would make you think she's gunna change and then back to the old hinata.
also the thing about your examples are only obit's actually happened DURING the main story the others were flashbacks not even relevant to the story for the most part we could've gone without knowing madara was idealistic and kakashi was a jerk it wouldn't have made a difference. Im giving you that naruto is a better series but as an anime it is not all more entertaining. and yeah SAO is kind of episodic but not really because of the levels they go through like yeah you can watch half the episodes and get the idea but you can watch 200/700 naruto episodes and literally be fine and know most of the story its not a complicated developed series at all you give it too much credit in that respect but it is my favorite manga of all time

 

[Guntah]

Yes but everything you just named wasn't "development" it was a quick change of heart in like five seconds and tbh I love naruto but he did not change that much until he became hokage his character has been the same since the beginning and hinata never came out of her shell lol she said like five words that would make you think she's gunna change and then back to the old hinata.

Both are very untrue. Naruto, I can at least see it, as he held to his very core principles from beginning to end, but he did mature and grow. He is still cheerful, not the smartest, and wants to be Hokage, but his growth is undeniable. Hinata though...she really got through her shyness. Both her confession and her interaction with Naruto after Neji's death prove that, as well as her role in The Last.

also the thing about your examples are only obit's actually happened DURING the main story the others were flashbacks not even relevant to the story for the most part we could've gone without knowing madara was idealistic and kakashi was a jerk it wouldn't have made a difference. Im giving you that naruto is a better series but as an anime it is not all more entertaining. and yeah SAO is kind of episodic but not really because of the levels they go through like yeah you can watch half the episodes and get the idea but you can watch 200/700 naruto episodes and literally be fine and know most of the story its not a complicated developed series at all you give it too much credit in that respect but it is my favorite manga of all time

Huh? So the fact that its in a flashback makes it less part of a plot? If anything, the fact that is a flashback just goes to prove your earlier statement wrong.

Spoiler

Naruto will never fit anything close to the development and emotion those series can fit into 50 episodes.

I also disagree with that point. One could have indeed gone by without knowing Kakashi's and Madara's childhood, but it adds another layer to their character by doing so. Madara was not always a warmonger. He himself once had hopes for peace in the real world. There is a reason for why Kakashi is late, and that's because he regrets all he did so much that he finds himself needing to visit Obito's grave every day because of it.

And then there's the statement that SAO goes through levels, and because of that, it isn't episodic....oh, the lies. If only that was the case, the series might have been better, but no. Out of the 100 bosses, as a matter of fact, we get to see around five of them. And its not like Kirito doesn't fight them often, he does, we just don't get to see it. Furthermore, rarely does one episode's actions affect the other. Case and point, the chirstmas episode. On itself, it is probably my favourite SAO episode. Kirito seems to go through some real character development by joining a guild, becoming friends with other people, only to see them die in the end...except they aren't ever mentioned again. Not once. They appear in a brief compilation of flashbacks and that's it. Any character development Kirito might have gone through there? Gone. It holds no weight, and thus it is meaningless.

But I know Naruto's limits. It has its plot holes, its ignored characters and its really, really underwhelming worldbuilding. If I wanted a better anime to praise, I would've gone to One Piece. Fact of the matter is, SAO in my eyes is trash, so in a comparison with Naruto, the latter will obviously have a lot above it.

 

[Dizzldot]

Both are very untrue. Naruto, I can at least see it, as he held to his very core principles from beginning to end, but he did mature and grow. He is still cheerful, not the smartest, and wants to be Hokage, but his growth is undeniable. Hinata though...she really got through her shyness. Both her confession and her interaction with Naruto after Neji's death prove that, as well as her role in The Last.



Huh? So the fact that its in a flashback makes it less part of a plot? If anything, the fact that is a flashback just goes to prove your earlier statement wrong.


I also disagree with that point. One could have indeed gone by without knowing Kakashi's and Madara's childhood, but it adds another layer to their character by doing so. Madara was not always a warmonger. He himself once had hopes for peace in the real world. There is a reason for why Kakashi is late, and that's because he regrets all he did so much that he finds himself needing to visit Obito's grave every day because of it.

And then there's the statement that SAO goes through levels, and because of that, it isn't episodic....oh, the lies. If only that was the case, the series might have been better, but no. Out of the 100 bosses, as a matter of fact, we get to see around five of them. And its not like Kirito doesn't fight them often, he does, we just don't get to see it. Furthermore, rarely does one episode's actions affect the other. Case and point, the chirstmas episode. On itself, it is probably my favourite SAO episode. Kirito seems to go through some real character development by joining a guild, becoming friends with other people, only to see them die in the end...except they aren't ever mentioned again. Not once. They appear in a brief compilation of flashbacks and that's it. Any character development Kirito might have gone through there? Gone. It holds no weight, and thus it is meaningless.

But I know Naruto's limits. It has its plot holes, its ignored characters and its really, really underwhelming worldbuilding. If I wanted a better anime to praise, I would've gone to One Piece. Fact of the matter is, SAO in my eyes is trash, so in a comparison with Naruto, the latter will obviously have a lot above it.

You literally just said flashbacks make it more of the plot pertaining to madara but then said kirito's sadness over losing his entire guild does count? The flashbacks for madara were only mentioned like twice as well lol. I literally don't need to argue any other points because the tragedy in that one episode evoked more emotion then all of naruto did combined. Thats a fact besides itachi saying bye to sasuke and minato leaving naruto at the end of the war there is nothing close to as emotionsl that one episode was and thats a fact lol naruto is an easy show because nothing happens thats ever going to make you emotionally attached and if you are I'm surprised. And the boss battles yeah its called what 25 episodes in SAO before the world changes? they would have no time left if they showed every battle but the battles they did show every one was animated perfectly and the plot twists in SAO>>>Naruto lol you can see everything coming at you from a mile away in naruto bro
You keep arguing to tell me its the better series I am agreeing but Im telling you if you gave them both 50 episodes to tell a story SAO did it much better then naruto same with dragon ball super speeding up the old DBZ formula to tell a story faster works and people like it because a lot of people don't wanna waste years of their life watching one arc of a show lol

 

[UnknownJin]

................. yeah :elmo:

 

[Ansatsuken]

Damn!!! from a single line of words it became a wall of text after that :elmo:

 

[Our Lord Sasuke]

Damn!!! from a single line of words it became a wall of text after that :elmo:

That's the power of the Lord Sasuke :bdpf:

 

[Guntah]

You literally just said flashbacks make it more of the plot pertaining to madara but then said kirito's sadness over losing his entire guild does count? The flashbacks for madara were only mentioned like twice as well lol.

I am dumbfounded by how much you missed the point with that comparison. The fact that it was never mentioned again is the insult to the injury, but not the problem itself. The Flashback shows us how Madara became who he is, we see the progression of his character. The problem with the episode, I repeat, is that it didn't change Kirito's character in the slightest. He was still the same Mary Sue type character as he was before. He didn't learn anything nor did he change as a character in any way because of it, making it as relevant as any filler would be. THAT is the main problem.

I literally don't need to argue any other points because the tragedy in that one episode evoked more emotion then all of naruto did combined. Thats a fact besides itachi saying bye to sasuke and minato leaving naruto at the end of the war there is nothing close to as emotionsl that one episode was and thats a fact lol

No, that is not a fact. That is an opinion. One I can somewhat respect for the episode itself, unlike yours on SAO and Naruto as a whole.

naruto is an easy show because nothing happens thats ever going to make you emotionally attached and if you are I'm surprised. And the boss battles yeah its called what 25 episodes in SAO before the world changes? they would have no time left if they showed every battle but the battles they did show every one was animated perfectly and the plot twists in SAO>>>Naruto lol you can see everything coming at you from a mile away in naruto bro

Yeah...I'm emotionally attached to Naruto, somewhat. Are you emotionally attached to SAO's bland characters? The reason the christmas episode was sad is not due to emotional attachment to characters. You barely know those characters. What is tragic about that episode is Kirito's reaction to it. You kinda know him throughout those last two episodes, but not to his fullest, or so you assume, and the way things go down from there hits you hard...but emotional attachment? Come on now, be real.

Then there's the 25 episodes thing....bullshit. Because there is nothing truly relevant that happens in between the episode they enter Aincrad to the episode they leave. Its just a series of semi-related happenings that sometimes appear in another episode, sometimes don't. Nothing in between happens to further the plot. SAO could essentially be told in four or five bullet points with the simplicity of its plot.

And to finish off this part, lets talk about plot twists. The Heathcliff one was good...but its execution was terrible. Because its just a showcase of how much of a poorly written and gamebreaking character Kirito is. The reasons he had for figuring it out were ridiculous, but since the world twists around him, he had to be the one to do it. Its stupid, yeah, but that's Kirito.

You keep arguing to tell me its the better series I am agreeing but Im telling you if you gave them both 50 episodes to tell a story SAO did it much better then naruto same with dragon ball super speeding up the old DBZ formula to tell a story faster works and people like it because a lot of people don't wanna waste years of their life watching one arc of a show lol

And I point at that and call bullshit. Naruto is meant to be a long running series, but if you ask it to tell a story in twenty episodes, it will do it better than SAO could ever hope to do. Case and point, the prologue and the Land of Waves arc.

 

[Dizzldot]

I am dumbfounded by how much you missed the point with that comparison. The fact that it was never mentioned again is the insult to the injury, but not the problem itself. The Flashback shows us how Madara became who he is, we see the progression of his character. The problem with the episode, I repeat, is that it didn't change Kirito's character in the slightest. He was still the same Mary Sue type character as he was before. He didn't learn anything nor did he change as a character in any way because of it, making it as relevant as any filler would be. THAT is the main problem.



No, that is not a fact. That is an opinion. One I can somewhat respect for the episode itself, unlike yours on SAO and Naruto as a whole.



Yeah...I'm emotionally attached to Naruto, somewhat. Are you emotionally attached to SAO's bland characters? The reason the christmas episode was sad is not due to emotional attachment to characters. You barely know those characters. What is tragic about that episode is Kirito's reaction to it. You kinda know him throughout those last two episodes, but not to his fullest, or so you assume, and the way things go down from there hits you hard...but emotional attachment? Come on now, be real.

Then there's the 25 episodes thing....bullshit. Because there is nothing truly relevant that happens in between the episode they enter Aincrad to the episode they leave. Its just a series of semi-related happenings that sometimes appear in another episode, sometimes don't. Nothing in between happens to further the plot. SAO could essentially be told in four or five bullet points with the simplicity of its plot.

And to finish off this part, lets talk about plot twists. The Heathcliff one was good...but its execution was terrible. Because its just a showcase of how much of a poorly written and gamebreaking character Kirito is. The reasons he had for figuring it out were ridiculous, but since the world twists around him, he had to be the one to do it. Its stupid, yeah, but that's Kirito.



And I point at that and call bullshit. Naruto is meant to be a long running series, but if you ask it to tell a story in twenty episodes, it will do it better than SAO could ever hope to do. Case and point, the prologue and the Land of Waves arc.

Ill be honest you wasted your time writing that because I skimmed three sentences realized you're overly attached to the series and that is that I wont bash you for it but to each his own