[Discussion] It's quite funny when you think about it.

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

I just realized something. I'm sure you all have noticed the remarkable similarities between ashura and naruto's avatars. They are so similar but slightly different. Personally, I think it's the difference between half kurama power and full kurama power.

So if ashura was kurama ' s Jinchuuriki and Hagoromo divided the ten - tails into 9 beasts when he was about to die. What do you think? "On his deathbed he chose ashura"

 

[Umari Senju]

When did naruto compared himself with itachi?

FYI, Indra's incarnations always jealous of ashuras incarnation's powers

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Can you show me any scan in which naruto got jealous of sasukes powers?

Well not necessarily jealous as you are right in that Indra and his Transmigrants are the ones who grew jealous of Ashura and his transmigrants. But there were a few time where Naruto admitted he was not stronger than Sasuke or that he trained to catch up with Sasuke.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

When did naruto compared himself with itachi?

FYI, Indra's incarnations always jealous of ashuras incarnation's powers

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Can you show me any scan in which naruto got jealous of sasukes powers?

Even in the last chapter he mentions it. The same page sasuke said so too.

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Right there. Naruto talks. Then sasuke talks.

 

[Umari Senju]

I just realized something. I'm sure you all have noticed the remarkable similarities between ashura and naruto's avatars. They are so similar but slightly different. Personally, I think it's the difference between half kurama power and full kurama power.

So if ashura was kurama ' s Jinchuuriki and Hagoromo divided the ten - tails into 9 beasts when he was about to die. What do you think? "On his deathbed he chose ashura"

It's still kind of a mystery as to weather Indra was a Jin or not. The consensus was that he was not. Ashura was named successor before Hagoromo divided the juubi into 9 entities. At least I think. It was the way Ahsura gained his power that gave Hagoromo the idea to split the Juubi before he died. However we are unsure which happened 1st.
Did he name Ashura his successor, then the fight between brothers, then the Rikudo Sennin's death,
or

did the Rikduo name Ashura his successor, then split the Juubi, then the brothers' fight.

If it's the second order than yeah there is a real strong chance that Ashura a Jin. If the first than highly unlikely he was a jin

 

[TONT]

Lol. Naruto also said that too him, sasuke walked ahead of him. I could post that here too to reply you but I see no point.

Well not necessarily jealous as you are right in that Indra and his Transmigrants are the ones who grew jealous of Ashura and his transmigrants. But there were a few time where Naruto admitted he was not stronger than Sasuke or that he trained to catch up with Sasuke.

Sasuke admitted himself that he always jealous of naruto. Its part 2 sasukes words:

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Naruto only said this in part 1 before rasengan.


Please stop being in denial.

 

[lndra]

He said sasuke was ahead of him and he used to work to catch up. Pay attention

Oh? Does your brain not work? Indra transmigrants are always above the Ashura transmigrants in the beginning hence why Naruto was so capitvated at the start. As Naruto grew into the shinobi that he is now he truly understands that the person who had been truly behind him, who had been suffering, was Sasuke. I was going to say "pay attention" but I think you need to analyze the manga without you're Sasuke-fapper lens because its obvious you're reading in the darkness. (If you even get that joke) Even your lord Sasuke knows this much. What about you, though? Spoiler You must be registered for see images

 

[TONT]

Oh? Does your brain not work? Indra transmigrants are always above the Ashura transmigrants in the beginning hence why Naruto was so capitvated at the start. As Naruto grew into the shinobi that he is now he truly understands that the person who had been truly behind him, who had been suffering, was Sasuke. I was going to say "pay attention" but I think you need to analyze the manga without you're Sasuke-fapper lens because its obvious you're reading in the darkness. (If you even get that joke) Even your lord Sasuke knows this much. What about you, though? Spoiler You must be registered for see images

Ohhh man this guy ^ is keep soloing all trolls.

Hats off to you.

People like him ^ knows what's going in manga.

Excellent posts.

 

[Umari Senju]

Sasuke admitted himself that he always jealous of naruto. Its part 2 sasukes words:

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Naruto only said this in part 1 before rasengan.


Please stop being in denial.

I'm not in denial. I am actually agreeing with you in case you missed that. I am just saying that Naruto admitted that Sasuke was ahead of him a couple of time. Once in part one during his Rasengan training as you mentioned, and once in Part 2 right after saving Sakura from Sasuke. This was abviously not the case as deep down Sasuke felt the same about Naruto.

It went both ways is all I am saying. Sasuke just finally admitted it is all.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

Butthurt faptard. Juubi eyes = juubi body.

So if narutos bijuu would be taken out of him then ems,ms and rinnegan should also be taken out of sasuke.

Sm naruto > 3 tomoes/ms sasuke> hashi > madara

Lol. Nope. It says in the manga that ashura inherited Hagoromo's body and life force while indra Inherited Hagoromo's eyes.
So why should Naruto need the Bijuu when he inherits the body? What's his excuse? Body should be = eyes. He has body+ bijuu. Not fair when you think about it.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

Oh? Does your brain not work? Indra transmigrants are always above the Ashura transmigrants in the beginning hence why Naruto was so capitvated at the start. As Naruto grew into the shinobi that he is now he truly understands that the person who had been truly behind him, who had been suffering, was Sasuke. I was going to say "pay attention" but I think you need to analyze the manga without you're Sasuke-fapper lens because its obvious you're reading in the darkness. (If you even get that joke) Even your lord Sasuke knows this much. What about you, though? Spoiler You must be registered for see images

Do you not understand? They are rivals for God's sake. Sasuke sees Naruto as ahead of him and wanted to be more powerful. So also Naruto saw sasuke as ahead of him and wanted to be more powerful. Read the last f****** chapter.

 

[lndra]

Ohhh man this guy ^ is keep soloing all trolls.

Hats off to you.

People like him ^ knows what's going in manga.

Excellent posts.

Thank you~! His points in this whole topic had so many holes it was worse than the Kaguya arc.

 

[Umari Senju]

Lol. Nope. It says in the manga that ashura inherited Hagoromo's body and life force while indra Inherited Hagoromo's eyes.
So why should Naruto need the Bijuu when he inherits the body? What's his excuse? Body should be = eyes. He has body+ bijuu. Not fair when you think about it.

Not really considering the eyes can also control any of the bijuu with ease. they can even invade the jinchuriki dimension as Sasuke did with Naruto at the begining of Part 2. Not really that unfair. Sasuke knew what he was up against and did very well against the odds.

Don't downplay Sasuke's loss with petty excuses of an unfair fight. He almost won that one and even used the bijuu power (even Kurama's power) against Naruto. Sasuke did fine on his own and is and always will be capable of beating Naruto.

 

[lndra]

Do you not understand? They are rivals for God's sake. Sasuke sees Naruto as ahead of him and wanted to be more powerful. So also Naruto saw sasuke as ahead of him and wanted to be more powerful. Read the last f****** chapter.

When you think about it, ashura and naruto don't deserve to be in the same class as their rival indra/sasuke.

You obviously don't understand the last chapter. It was Sasuke's confession to Naruto, while Naruto had already passed Sasuke in terms of emotions/feelings (physical strength is about equal or higher at this point - inluding chakra). This whole topic was to classify Indra transimigrants to be above Ashura transmigrants when you cannot accept the facts that are presented before you. You don't start a legend you become one.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

You obviously don't understand the last chapter. It was Sasuke's confession to Naruto, while Naruto had already passed Sasuke in terms of emotions/feelings (physical strength is about equal or higher at this point - inluding chakra). This whole topic was to classify Indra transimigrants to be above Ashura transmigrants when you cannot accept the facts that are presented before you. You don't start a legend you become one.

The point of my initial argument was to show where the characters should be without borrowed power.
This is a different argument. YOU don't understand the last chapter. They had a conversation. Conversation implies someone talking and someone else replying. Naruto said he though Sasuke was more powerful and he worked to catch up to him (but we already knew that). Sasuke confessed he felt the same way about Naruto ( which he has never done). It's basically a point of perspective.

 

[TONT]

Lol. Nope. It says in the manga that ashura inherited Hagoromo's body and life force while indra Inherited Hagoromo's eyes.
So why should Naruto need the Bijuu when he inherits the body? What's his excuse? Body should be = eyes. He has body+ bijuu. Not fair when you think about it.

You are trolling.

Your bs doesn't have worth to be called as manga facts.

sasuke used juubi body +juubi eyes
But unfortunately still lost to naruto with kurama.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

Not really considering the eyes can also control any of the bijuu with ease. they can even invade the jinchuriki dimension as Sasuke did with Naruto at the begining of Part 2. Not really that unfair. Sasuke knew what he was up against and did very well against the odds.

Don't downplay Sasuke's loss with petty excuses of an unfair fight. He almost won that one and even used the bijuu power (even Kurama's power) against Naruto. Sasuke did fine on his own and is and always will be capable of beating Naruto.

I didn't say the fight was unfair. Sasuke prepared well. I've said this in a previous thread I made. What I'm saying is this. You obviously agree that Naruto =Sasuke. Kishi made it so. But they both inherited two different aspects of Hagoromo. Body and eyes. How is it then that ashura and naruto require bijuu help (by being jinchuuriki) to match their counterpart. Take away the Bijuu and they lose.

To me. Hashirama embodies what ashura/an ashura transmigrants should be. No Bijuu needed and he still fight on equal footing. Hell he beat madara twice.

 

[TONT]

I'm not in denial. I am actually agreeing with you in case you missed that. I am just saying that Naruto admitted that Sasuke was ahead of him a couple of time. Once in part one during his Rasengan training as you mentioned, and once in Part 2 right after saving Sakura from Sasuke. This was abviously not the case as deep down Sasuke felt the same about Naruto.

It went both ways is all I am saying. Sasuke just finally admitted it is all.

I guess you are misunderstanding something.

Naruto wasn't called himself inferior when he faced sasuke after kage summit.

Let me clear your misconception.

Naruto said that he couldn't defeat sasuke at that time because he felt hatred inside him. Naruto because of sm felt indras spirit in him which naruto realized that it cant be vanished just by defeating sasuke or killing him

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And then naruto cleared his point when he met with sage.

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Only part 1 naruto before rasengan wanted to catch up with sasuke

 

[TONT]

Thank you~! His points in this whole topic had so many holes it was worse than the Kaguya arc.

Lol ahahhaha yep

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

You are trolling.

Your bs doesn't have worth to be called as manga facts.

sasuke used juubi body +juubi eyes
But unfortunately still lost to naruto.

Lol. He lost. But only in ideal. Naruto won by TNJ sasuke. Battle wise. They are both ****ed up. Kinda a draw. Tho Naruto would still win if they were actually gonna die. Cuz sasuke would be the first to die ☺

 

[lndra]

The point of my initial argument was to show where the characters should be without borrowed power.
This is a different argument. YOU don't understand the last chapter. They had a conversation. Conversation implies someone talking and someone else replying. Naruto said he though Sasuke was more powerful and he worked to catch up to him (but we already knew that). Sasuke confessed he felt the same way about Naruto ( which he has never done). It's basically a point of perspective.

I honestly can't take you seriously anymore. I`ll come back and solo you after my 3rd period, wait for me.