[Discussion] Itachi's Yata Mirror vs DNA sword used by Hagaromo himself

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Hagaromo Otsutsuki, with his unwavering determination to kill Itachi, thrusts the Sword of Nunoboko with all his might into Itachi's Yata Mirror.

For that brief instant of violent collision, does Itachi survive?
 
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SO6P gets soloed neg diff U_U


Lolnope, yata gets oblitirated.
 

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There's gonna be some hardcore fanboys bringing some outdated info here...
 

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I can give a f*ck what the databook says, that sword will crush yata mirror
 

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these items as for now are a big plot hole in my eyes to keep itachi in the battle in part 2 from what i have seen due to itachi's illness he had and i accept that itachi needed a break. But Kishi has made no reference to where these items come from and who created them.

Its such a massive over sight i simply don't understand how kishi could ignore these items at all anymore. The whole point of the climax of manga now is to tie up loose ends and explain everything.


And these items are biggest plot hole so far that hasn't been addressed.
 

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There's gonna be some hardcore fanboys bringing some outdated info here...

Dude the datebook was written by kishi, are you saying he didnt know what he was talking about?
are you upset because Kabuto is in a infinite loop, and Oro was owned lol:p

OT: NO ONE IS STRONGER THAN SO6P! So no, Itachi would not survive in this ridiculous hypothetical situation.
 

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these items as for now are a big plot hole in my eyes to keep itachi in the battle in part 2 from what i have seen due to itachi's illness he had and i accept that itachi needed a break. But Kishi has made no reference to where these items come from and who created them.

Its such a massive over sight i simply don't understand how kishi could ignore these items at all anymore. The whole point of the climax of manga now is to tie up loose ends and explain everything.


And these items are biggest plot hole so far that hasn't been addressed.


That's the problem. Susposidely, these items make the user completely invincible to the point of even blocking a charge by a full powered Sage of the 6 paths.

Yata is strong, but certainly there are limits. It's not winning against Hagaromo, much less Juubi Jin Hagaromo.
 

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Kishi said that the Yata Mirror repels everything, thats the way it works until he changes it.

Ofc this doesn't mean that SO6P wouldn't be able to beat him, hell no.
 

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Kishi said that the Yata Mirror repels everything, thats the way it works until he changes it.

Ofc this doesn't mean that SO6P wouldn't be able to beat him, hell no.

But how will he get past that shield then?

It would be funny if he slams the DNA sword into Yata with so much impact, that after it gets repelled, the shockwaves destroy the earth and kills Hagaromo but leaves Itachi alive lol. If so, Yata is OP.
 

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lol^^
SO6P most likely knows every single jutsu in the world, he could use KA to beat him, Kamui to outmaneuver him, Amaterasu him and wait until Itachi used up all his chakra, he probably could teleport him onto the moon or use CT to catch him and again wait until his Susano'o wears off, Shinra Tensei him into the space...or simply use Creation of all things to make Itachi or the shield disappear. Plenty of ways to bypass the shield.
 

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lol^^
SO6P most likely knows every single jutsu in the world, he could use KA to beat him, Kamui to outmaneuver him, Amaterasu him and wait until Itachi used up all his chakra, he probably could teleport him onto the moon or use CT to catch him and again wait until his Susano'o wears off, Shinra Tensei him into the space...or simply use Creation of all things to make Itachi or the shield disappear. Plenty of ways to bypass the shield.

Makes sense. But still, repelling a planet level attack is too much, even for Yata.

Wouldn't Itachi have to put a lot more chakra(more than he could afford) into the shield to sustain it for such impacts?
 

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If I didnt see the DNA sword get cut in half by a Susanoo BM sword Id say the sword.. but I think I gotta go with the Yata mirror. As long as we're talking about a single attack vs a single defense and not throwing strategy and all that into the equation.

I think Yata Mirror could block DNA sword, but probably couldnt win the fight.
 

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Makes sense. But still, repelling a planet level attack is too much, even for Yata.

Wouldn't Itachi have to put a lot more chakra(more than he could afford) into the shield to sustain it for such impacts?

I reallly dont think So6p knows every jutsu in the world. Id be very surprised if he even had amaterasu let alone Kamui and KA. As far as we know he never had a sharingan, and didnt evolve Rinnegan from anything other than his normal eyes (unless maybe he was born with them). All he has ocular jutsuwise is more than likely just Rinnegan abilities that weve seen and probably alot that we havent seen. Even though you can use Susanoo etc. while Rinnegan is active, you still have to have a MS as well. Nagato could only use rinnegan abilities despite the eyes actually being evolved from MS in the first place, so if So6p's Rinnegan didnt even evolve from MS, its highly unlikely he has MS abilities. Maybe hell have jutsu similar to some MS ones but different and more powerful. If we get to see him in action I highly expect quite a few new Rinnegan abilities/better ways to use old abilities. Well probably see a few of those from Madara first, but So6p Rinnegan use should be on another level.
 

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People are overestimating the yata mirror, because they forget to think of something called chakra levels. Itachi using the Yata mirror could probably defend against anything, because that is the way Kishi told us the shield works.

But he hasn't infinite chakra. Maintaining Susanoo seems to be needed for using the mirror. If SO6P keep making attacks, that cannot kill himself upon repulsion, at some point Itachi will simply run out of chakra and thus he cannot maintain the mirror.

The only thing that was ever said to be invincible was Itachi's Susanoo, and not Itachi himself. Don't forget manga facts.

While we don't know, where these items come from (the three relics of Japan), I think it is safe to assume, that they hold same value as the items created by the so6p, in other words they are indestructable as stated by Kurama.

My personal belief is, that they were created by the elder son of the sage, and that only Susanoo can wield them, because of the manner in which they are related to Susanoo in the Japanese myths. Likewise it was probably the elder son who created Susanoo along with the special requirements to obtain Susanoo, due to its great power.
 

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Dude the datebook was written by kishi, are you saying he didnt know what he was talking about?
are you upset because Kabuto is in a infinite loop, and Oro was owned lol:p

OT: NO ONE IS STRONGER THAN SO6P! So no, Itachi would not survive in this ridiculous hypothetical situation.

The most recent databook was made in 2008. It is outdated and is swimming with contradictions. If you want to believe something like that, be my guest. I only believe stats and bios, ya know, the parts that don't say "x is invincible" when it said "y is unbeatable" one page ago.
No, because it's not infinite and Orochimaru is still here. Perhaps you're just pissing your pants in anger at the mere thought that maybe, just maybe, Itachi isn't as powerful as you think he is, Fodder.
 

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Logically, no. Factually, yes. We must understand, the Narutoverse is not a logical one u_u
 

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The sword has precicely 0 Feats.
The shield has one, although it's just blocking explosive kunai.
 

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The sword has precicely 0 Feats.
The shield has one, although it's just blocking explosive kunai.

So you're saying that Itachi prevails in this instance, even against Hagaromo?
 
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