Itachi's Strength

[kadowade]

Re: Itachi full health isnt better then sick itachi! overrated much? i think so!

On lunch break!

To those who say I'm a itachi hater must be kids. Because if they payed attention I never insulted itachi but rather the fanboys that know nothing about naruto. I know more about itachi then anyone on this thread, and he is one of my favs (top 3).

What some if uu fail to realise is I'm not saying he is weak, but implying he had shown his true power! And that is his limits. His illness had nothing to do with guys powers (i.e. Kimmimaru), although it may limit his ability to fight right, it doesn't effect his chakra, ninjutsu, taijutsu, or genjutsu! you can say his speed may get tempered but his skills do not.

Back in the day when he was healthy he didnt have the powers and knowledge he poses now..

So ima break it down again.. Health itachi was back in the day with fresh ms techs but no mastery, knowledge, sacred weapons, full susanoo (probably), and no years to practice with ms. full powered itachi is sick, going blind, sacred weapons, full mastery over ms techs, and that is that! Kishi has not said he would be 100% better with out the sickness. So stop saying he would own any ninja if healthy.

Tobi said he had ben prolonging his life for years with medicine, so that means when he fought kakashi he was sick but not as bad. And again til better proof, it is safe to assume he was sick because of the years with ms.

P.s come with better come backs pls! insults can only take you so far..

Kimmimaru was dying of curse mark, Curse mark GIVES you chakra, but kills.

Thats why itachi forced sasuke to bring out orochimaru so he can get rid of tha curse mark.

Dude its common sense, that a Healthy person would do better than a Half-blind, internally sick, person coughing up blood. like seriously COMMON SENSE.
Thats why he couldnt use full power because his limit was shortened due to internal sickness and overused eyes.

 

[Kinimaster]

Re: why do some of you guys think Itachi invincible?

Itachi can't beat the first, second, third, or fourth hokages they are superior to Itachi.The first and second have mastered elements especially the 2nd.Itachi nature type is fire so tell me how he'll even beat the 2nd.He has forbidden techs sensory skills,can summmon huge amounts of water just from a molecule there noway Otachi can beat him the 2nd also has space time techs.

Itachi is also Water affinity along with fire, He has won every battle he wanted to win with almost doing nothing, Deidara, Orochimaru and Kakashi were like trash to him, the battle against sasuke he needed to be long and make sasuke go out of chakra, he actually spared him 3 times in that battle if you see it again, plus we still dont know how he would fight in an all out battle, so he probably is stronger than the kages.

 

[ablepema]

Re: why do some of you guys think Itachi invincible?

Itachi is a very powerful ninja and he is invincible to a certain extinct. We all know that he is a genjutsu master especially since he has Tsukuyomi, he may not be as masterful with Amaterasu as Sasuke but he is still efficient in it. Also his Susanoo is invincible since it has the Yata Mirror and the Sword of Totsuka. But the reason why I say he's invicible to a certain extinct is because he as low chakra reserves so he wouldn't be able to fight an all out battle as long as some other characters.

susanno is not invincible that's what you guys keep forgetting.

 

[kadowade]

Re: Itachi full health isnt better then sick itachi! overrated much? i think so!

wrong he owned oro and deridara in 1 sec is that tsukuyomi last for 1 sec and ur dead everything finished in 1 sec

i was counting the talking too.

 

[Fluffyman]

Re: why do some of you guys think Itachi invincible?

that´s quite a tough one, yeah, he is incredibly powerful, BUT we don´t know what his reaction speed is, i mean, yes raikage is very fast and strong, but how quickly can itachi catch someone in genjutsu? + there is still his invincible susano´o

Itachi easily managed to activate Susanoo before he got him from Kirin, Kirin is pure lightning so Itachi´s reflexes are even faster than the speed of lightning (because if he just would be exactly as fast as lightning he would have taken the hit and died, he clearly is faster..even if its just a bit).
Raikage is said to be as fast as lightning or something like that, and since Tsukuyomi is also casted with just the eyes (like Susanoo) Itachi could put him in genjutsu.
It would be a totally different story if he had to perform handseals but with MS jutsus he is the quicker one.

 

[ablepema]

Re: why do some of you guys think Itachi invincible?

Itachi is also Water affinity along with fire, He has won every battle he wanted to win with almost doing nothing, Deidara, Orochimaru and Kakashi were like trash to him, the battle against sasuke he needed to be long and make sasuke go out of chakra, he actually spared him 3 times in that battle if you see it again, plus we still dont know how he would fight in an all out battle, so he probably is stronger than the kages.

Itachi water nature type is no where close to that of the second hokage.

 

[Kinimaster]

Re: why do some of you guys think Itachi invincible?

Itachi water nature type is no where close to that of the second hokage.

Yeah, but not a weakness though.

 

[ablepema]

Re: why do some of you guys think Itachi invincible?

Itachi easily managed to activate Susanoo before he got him from Kirin, Kirin is pure lightning so Itachi´s reflexes are even faster than the speed of lightning (because if he just would be exactly as fast as lightning he would have taken the hit and died, he clearly is faster..even if its just a bit).
Raikage is said to be as fast as lightning or something like that, and since Tsukuyomi is also casted with just the eyes (like Susanoo) Itachi could put him in genjutsu.
It would be a totally different story if he had to perform handseals but with MS jutsus he is the quicker one.

Here's how i prove this wrong sasuke had control of the lightning and Itachi saw it right so He's able to prepare susanno the samething with the raikages speed battle with sasuke.

 

[ablepema]

Re: why do some of you guys think Itachi invincible?

Yeah, but not a weakness though.

all of Itachi techs would become useless against the second hokage.The second summons massive amounts of water it's not even funny.

 

[Inception]

Re: Itachi full health isnt better then sick itachi! overrated much? i think so!

On lunch break!

To those who say I'm a itachi hater must be kids. Because if they payed attention I never insulted itachi but rather the fanboys that know nothing about naruto. I know more about itachi then anyone on this thread, and he is one of my favs (top 3).

What some if uu fail to realise is I'm not saying he is weak, but implying he had shown his true power! And that is his limits. His illness had nothing to do with guys powers (i.e. Kimmimaru), although it may limit his ability to fight right, it doesn't effect his chakra, ninjutsu, taijutsu, or genjutsu! you can say his speed may get tempered but his skills do not.

Back in the day when he was healthy he didnt have the powers and knowledge he poses now..

So ima break it down again.. Health itachi was back in the day with fresh ms techs but no mastery, knowledge, sacred weapons, full susanoo (probably), and no years to practice with ms. full powered itachi is sick, going blind, sacred weapons, full mastery over ms techs, and that is that! Kishi has not said he would be 100% better with out the sickness. So stop saying he would own any ninja if healthy.

Tobi said he had ben prolonging his life for years with medicine, so that means when he fought kakashi he was sick but not as bad. And again til better proof, it is safe to assume he was sick because of the years with ms.

P.s come with better come backs pls! insults can only take you so far..

Sickness effected his abilities more than you think. It's like being old but on the verge of death. Hiruzen was greatly effected by his old age, are you going to say that he was the same as when he was in his prime?

Those are all assumptions that you're taking out of your ass. How do you know he did not have those sacred items in part one? Orochimaru left Akatsuki before part one and he was owned by Itachi IN HIS PRIME BEFORE PART ONE EVEN BEGAN. You're assuming he was not strong in part one, I'm assuming that Itachi was in his prime prior to the start of Naruto manga.

What knowledge could he have possibly earned in part 2 that changed him so dramatically? Everything he has done has been before the start of Naruto or in part one.

Stop changing the manga to fit your own needs, please. We don't know how Tobi extends his life and it's not medicines like Itachi. It has to do with Hashirama's cells as Tsunade mentioned. Maybe Hashirama was more like a tree than we think.

No, it's not "safe to assume" he was sick because of the years of using MS. Zetsu himself confirmed this when Itachi coughed up blood that it was not his MS that was causing him to cough blood but something else. He also related this to his movement.

 

[Kinimaster]

Re: why do some of you guys think Itachi invincible?

Susanoo cast is instant, thats more than showed in the anime and manga. Also Sharingan make the opponent speed slower because how much sharingan can see, sasuke could dodge raikage attack and injure him with chidori. Itachi is faster than sasuke, and better sharingan usage plus complete susanoo with the mythic weapons, look how much mess sasuke did at the kages reunion with an incomplete one.

 

[andypereira]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

Exactly.



Orochimaru managed to kill the 3rd Hokage ( was known to be the strongest in the history )

And if Itachi defeats Oro in the 1st minute. What does that say what Itachi can do to all the others.


Itachi would have more Trouble with JIRAIYA then he would with ANY of the past 4 hokages.

That is only because i believe Jiraiya's sage mode would render his tsukyonmi useless because of the chakra instability.

I know your gonna say Minato would win, because he's too quick.
, well... not really. Itachi only has to point his finger, or just disperse into crows so he cant be hit.

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What are you talkin about orochimaru the strongest in Konoha ????? ... Come on .. If your taking history into account 4th was the strongest ... They have not revealed everythin about the hokages plain and simple .. Hashirama didnt become hokage jus bcoz of mokuton ... he would have known how to fight it ... plus he regularly fought against the uchiha clan So must have had a secret against genjutsu ... tobirama ( no idea ) ... How do you know the extent of hiruzens ability ... bcoz he fought when he was old against his former student ... and about your quote of the 4th not able to hit Itachi ... he was able to hit Madara with a rasengan .. Now thats someone very difficult to hit and he did it with ease ... Tsunade no idea ... she seems to be the lamest Kage yet ... we'll see as the manga continues if she has anythin under her sleeves ,,,,
See i like Itachi a lot but get very irritated when everone take Itachi to god lvls ... i mean he was op ... but not the most powerfull ... Ok he has great abilities but like Zetsu says in the sasuke vs itachi fight Its not the weapon but the person using the weapon that makes the difference ... I personally think you are an Itachi fanboy who doesnt wanna listen to any other opinions ... u will still say that susanoo,amaterasu,tsukoyomi can beat everbody .. in that case why didnt he jus take on the whole akatsuki ,,, that would have helped Konoha a lot more !!!!

 

[kadowade]

Re: why do some of you guys think Itachi invincible?

He can't beatnaruto even in one years time

Duh cuz Naruto has "Main Character 'No Jutsu!

Nobody will kill him, kishi wont let that happen

 

[Kinimaster]

Re: why do some of you guys think Itachi invincible?

all of Itachi techs would become useless against the second hokage.The second summons massive amounts of water it's not even funny.

Im pretty sure Amaterasu beats all elemental jutsus including Fire and Water.

 

[Nidaimerocks]

Re: Itachi full health isnt better then sick itachi! overrated much? i think so!

what the 3 tomoe sharingan that made him an anbu captain at 13? or the 3 tomoe sharingan that shamed orochimaru (an s-rank, sannin)? or the 3 tomoe that schooled deidara and not only prompted him to transplant a bionic eye but to create his ultimate jutsu, the c4 explosion? which one? I could continue

1. ANBU are fodder, being ANBU captain means shit
2. Sorry stan but the three tomoe sharingan did not shame Orochimaru. Reread the fight. Orochimaru kai'ed out of the genjutsu and Itachi cut his hand. However, since Orochimaru has oral rebirth cutting his hand means shit
3. Deidara did not know shit about the sharingan, he lost to it. Big deal. Kurenai and Tayuya could have done the same thing

You have to grow up and realize when you are analyzing feats which ones are impossible to replicate by others. ANBU is shit, don't mention that shit. Orochimaru broke the genjutsu and laughs off cutting his hand while Deidara was a little kid with no knowledge of sharingan.

 

[Fluffyman]

Re: why do some of you guys think Itachi invincible?

Here's how i prove this wrong sasuke had control of the lightning and Itachi saw it right so He's able to prepare susanno the samething with the raikages speed battle with sasuke.

I dont know how he could prepare Susanoo? It activates instantly anyways.
Just look at that episode in the anime again, we never saw Itachi´s Susanoo during that attack, so he most likely just activated it for the moment Kirin did hit him. Kirin was already rushing towards him and he didnt had Susanoo out, so he had even less time to activate it and still managed to do so.

 

[ablepema]

Re: why do some of you guys think Itachi invincible?

Susanoo cast is instant, thats more than showed in the anime and manga. Also Sharingan make the opponent speed slower because how much sharingan can see, sasuke could dodge raikage attack and injure him with chidori. Itachi is faster than sasuke, and better sharingan usage plus complete susanoo with the mythic weapons, look how much mess sasuke did at the kages reunion with an incomplete one.

you know that a sharingan can't even see the raikages pure speed and even just look at bee it was hard for sasuke and he could'nt keep up.

 

[Kinimaster]

Re: why do some of you guys think Itachi invincible?

I dont know how he could prepare Susanoo? It activates instantly anyways.
Just look at that episode in the anime again, we never saw Itachi´s Susanoo during that attack, so he most likely just activated it for the moment Kirin did hit him. Kirin was already rushing towards him and he didnt had Susanoo out, so he had even less time to activate it and still managed to do so.

Right, he couldnt afford to lose that battle without transplanting his powers to sasuke, lame that Madara could barely survive that Amaterasu though.

 

[arv993]

Re: Itachi full health isnt better then sick itachi! overrated much? i think so!

1. ANBU are fodder, being ANBU captain means shit
2. Sorry stan but the three tomoe sharingan did not shame Orochimaru. Reread the fight. Orochimaru kai'ed out of the genjutsu and Itachi cut his hand. However, since Orochimaru has oral rebirth cutting his hand means shit
3. Deidara did not know shit about the sharingan, he lost to it. Big deal. Kurenai and Tayuya could have done the same thing

You have to grow up and realize when you are analyzing feats which ones are impossible to replicate by others. ANBU is shit, don't mention that shit. Orochimaru broke the genjutsu and laughs off cutting his hand while Deidara was a little kid with no knowledge of sharingan.

but he still proves you wrong that even at the age of 13 he is better than the average jonin that you previously stated, he was beyond that. kakashi was also part of the anbu you think he was an average jonin you are seriously ignorant if you think being a captain of anbu is an average jonin and nothing else.

 

[Kinimaster]

Re: why do some of you guys think Itachi invincible?

you know that a sharingan can't even see the raikages pure speed and even just look at bee it was hard for sasuke and he could'nt keep up.

Bee is one of the best characters in the series and an expert swordsman, im Pretty sure Itachi would see all his attacks though, what messed sasuke up in that battle was Bee sword style.