Itachi's Strength

[arv993]

Re: Itachi full health isnt better then sick itachi! overrated much? i think so!

The three MS powers are what they are. We already know them. They are already counted as part of his power. The claim of Itachi's stans was that he was more powerful than what we had seen, the truth is that he is not.

"Base" Itachi is average. He could not scratch Part I Kakashi who was protecting Kurenai. He was defeated by Kakashi in the shouten exchange. He could not scratch Base Kirabi. He is an average jounin ninja. Now, MS Itachi is truly a strong ninja. However, everyone knows that already. You guys told us that we would see there was more to Itachi. The truth is that there is not more to him. He needs MS to fight anyone strong.

no one said that he has an extra power, ppl just say that in part when his illness was not really showing itachi was stronger becos he has more stamina and won't fall down to the ground coughing blood and when he is not sick like in edo tensei you see him being faster, so it is stuff like that he would improve on stamina is very important in fights and itachi loses a considerable amount of stamina when his illness gets really bad like when he was facing sasuke. And you are saying without ms he is just an average jonin are you kidding me dude he is fast, is good at water and fire ninjustu and has decent taijutsu, he is beyond the lvl of an average jonin even without ms becos he still also has genjutsu that can be used even without ms. what about base killer bee is so great that itachi without ms can't even scratch him, itachi could just use regular genjutsu and get him. And in the fight between edo tensei itachi and bee you see itachi just by using fire jutsu pushed killer bee to use his tailed beast hand to block it.

 

[arv993]

Re: Itachi full health isnt better then sick itachi! overrated much? i think so!

the samething with kakashi he not same kakashi when he last saw itachi so stop saying that he put someone as skilled as kakashi in a coma.Kakashi is skilled but he only had the tomoe sharingan not the mangekyo.

that is true kakashi did get stronger substantially

 

[ablepema]

Re: Itachi full health isnt better then sick itachi! overrated much? i think so!

Here's one question so can you guy's clearly see that Saskue with the ms is stronger.

 

[ablepema]

Re: Itachi full health isnt better then sick itachi! overrated much? i think so!

that is true kakashi did get stronger substantially

finally

 

[bajram]

Re: Itachi full health isnt better then sick itachi! overrated much? i think so!

Orochimaru couldnt even harm itachi, he owned him in like 40 secs, Itachi is the Reason Orochimaru Left Akatsuki.
He didnt even move but Owned Deidara in like 30 secs

And i didnt say he mastered the MANGEKYOU SHARINGAN, I said he Mastered Sharingan, 3 tomie. so dont put words in my mouth

Yea he didmaster all 3 MS Techs, But if he wasent ill he could of extended the use of Susano'o And AMaterasu,.

So if he wasent sick, ALL his moves are like 3 times stronger in duration and power. You seen how much a SICK itachi can do, So imagine itachi without his sickness holding him back

wrong he owned oro and deridara in 1 sec is that tsukuyomi last for 1 sec and ur dead everything finished in 1 sec

 

[ablepema]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

U must be drunk to say this or u don't think b4 saying this, i mean no explanation,no backing,no proof,no reasoning,wow u lack something u need 2 find

Look drunkie where your proof you have no reasoning to prove it wrong wacth planetary devastaion.

 

[ablepema]

Re: Itachi full health isnt better then sick itachi! overrated much? i think so!

Did i say everyone i didn't i don't know you guys don't want to believe when even superstars athlete's of today do it because of their passion for the sport which fuels them why do you think im lying about this, This is not something to lie about i clearly said when you have strength within you to fuel it will work when you don't it limit's you.im an athlete too and i hear all of these events happening to people so there's no need to lie.

I can't really decide this one it's complicated maybe Itachi did do his best.

 

[ablepema]

why do some of you guys think Itachi invincible?

Why do you think Itachi the greatest some of the ocmment's Ive been didn't make sense for defending Itachi like the thread Itachi is better than previous hokages some of comment's didn't make sense to me so is there really a good reason for Itachi is better than previous hokage or pain and nagato because i don't see it.

 

[captainEO]

Re: Itachi full health isnt better then sick itachi! overrated much? i think so!

The three MS powers are what they are. We already know them. They are already counted as part of his power. The claim of Itachi's stans was that he was more powerful than what we had seen, the truth is that he is not.

"Base" Itachi is average. He could not scratch Part I Kakashi who was protecting Kurenai. He was defeated by Kakashi in the shouten exchange. He could not scratch Base Kirabi. He is an average jounin ninja. Now, MS Itachi is truly a strong ninja. However, everyone knows that already. You guys told us that we would see there was more to Itachi. The truth is that there is not more to him. He needs MS to fight anyone strong.

go home. don't speak such foolishness

 

[HokageKid]

Re: why do some of you guys think Itachi invincible?

Because there is actually a good chance he will win those matches

 

[Exaar]

Re: Itachi full health isnt better then sick itachi! overrated much? i think so!

Itachi is awesome end of discussion his illness was from over use of the Mangekyo Sharingan

Im sure it wasn't because of his MS
all Ms does it make the user go blind not kill them

If that was true sasuke would of died along time ago from illness

 

[ablepema]

Re: why do some of you guys think Itachi invincible?

Because there is actually a good chance he will win those matches

so Itachi can beat the hokages mizukage the raikage's

 

[Red 9]

Re: why do some of you guys think Itachi invincible?

Itachi is just awsome!

 

[Lord Snow]

Re: why do some of you guys think Itachi invincible?

so Itachi can beat the hokages mizukage the raikage's

yes he can, hes on a level thats kage or higher

 

[~The Norwegian~]

Re: why do some of you guys think Itachi invincible?

Itachi IS very strong. That's just the reason

 

[bajram]

Re: Itachi full health isnt better then sick itachi! overrated much? i think so!

go home. don't speak such foolishness

well said bro he really speaking such foolishness

 

[Red 9]

Re: why do some of you guys think Itachi invincible?

so Itachi can beat the hokages mizukage the raikage's

You know that cannot be said!
But he may defeat them because he is an Elite Uchiha after all!

 

[Kinimaster]

Re: why do some of you guys think Itachi invincible?

Yeah, he seems to be more powerful than the kages to me, but he was handicapped by disease, the manga will show just how powerful he actually is.

 

[Inception]

Re: Itachi full health isnt better then sick itachi! overrated much? i think so!

I disagree with this. His illness has everything to do with his MS.

When people say "full strength" Itachi, they mean Itachi that is not on the verge of death. His movements were limited, his chakra resource was limited, his stamina (which he lacks without the sickness) was also very low thanks to the sickness.

It's like comparing Hiruzen in his old age to his prime. Are you going to say that Hiruzen is on par with Orochimaru when he was in his prime and when they fought? NO. Hiruzen Sarutobi was not as strong as he was due to his old age, Anbu confirmed this. He could have destroyed Orochimaru if he was still the young Hokage.

Reading your whole post was a pain especially because of how you translate the manga events to fit your own personal agenda. Shisui did not help with the massacre. He was killed a day or two prior to the massacre. Itachi obtained the MS before the day he killed his clan. Tobi apparently helped him out but to what extent?

About Itachi having Shisui's eye; he did not use it. He saved it up for Naruto to use because he had "plans" for Sasuke. He was also feared by the sensors because apparently he was able to control people from outside the sensor's range and this was not thanks to Shisui's eye.

You're saying he didn't use his MS much and that he did not get the MS techniques right then. Well, Itachi confirmed that 3 techniques "awakened" in his eyes when he got MS. He already had full control of Tsukiyomi and was able to use Amaterasu fairly well in part 1. This was years after the massacre so obviously he had time to master it. In p2, he showed us Susano'o and that too was mastered. He had awakened it along with Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu on "that faithful day".

At age 7, he graduated from the Ninja Academy at the top of his class after only one year, mastered the Sharingan at age eight, passed the Chūnin Exams at age 10, and became an ANBU Captain at age 13.

 

[HokageKid]

Re: why do some of you guys think Itachi invincible?

so Itachi can beat the hokages mizukage the raikage's

Well i say he could beat the mizukage and maybe the raikage, he would definitely beat tsunade, maybe third, 4th would be a great match and i don't know who would win