Itachi's Strength

[arv993]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

lol then if it a threat to the village why dont he just kill them all and not join them instead!what you say has no sense at all.

itachi took order from pain when pain ORDER them to go back to the hideout and extract the bijuus from the jinchuurikis. isnt it? lol pawned.

LOLLOLOL. the elders including the 3rd order him to kill his clan, you dont understand naruto manga at all reread again! that is why sasuke is taking revenge and kill danzo. it is HIS FINAL MISSION! and a MISSION is given by the superior!

PAIN has his own plan for the bijuus he never will give it to madara. if he is still alive right now mayba nagato took madara instead of konan fighting madara.

dude itachi was basically just keeping an eye on the akatsuki for the leaf and had to follow orders cos he had to seem like he was loyal how ignorant are you and re read the manga nagato was just used and manipulated by madara so that he would collect bijus and madara can control the world.

 

[kadowade]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

lol then if it a threat to the village why dont he just kill them all and not join them instead!what you say has no sense at all.

itachi took order from pain when pain ORDER them to go back to the hideout and extract the bijuus from the jinchuurikis. isnt it? lol pawned.

LOLLOLOL. the elders including the 3rd order him to kill his clan, you dont understand naruto manga at all reread again! that is why sasuke is taking revenge and kill danzo. it is HIS FINAL MISSION! and a MISSION is given by the superior!

PAIN has his own plan for the bijuus he never will give it to madara. if he is still alive right now mayba nagato took madara instead of konan fighting madara.

Because he didnt kno thier intentions you dont even need all the members to extract a beast from junchuriki
, and pain has no choice or madara would kill him if he interfered with his Plan., he dosent have to hand it to madara, Madara will just kill Pain and take it. Madara's eyes are too much for pain. Madara even told pain to capture the 9 tails(after the battle with pain & jiraiya)
Konan: What do we do now?
Pain: We do as madara said, Go after the 9 tailes.- somethin like that)

 

[pureozzy101]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

kadowade your obviously a fanboi, itachi can only beat the 5th and possibly the 2nd, Tsukuyomi is placed upon the victim and the visual prowess is controlled by the user during the time the genjustu is placed until the finnish both the user and victim are unable to attack, the only way itachi could kill by using Tsukuyomi is by first throwing a object and immediantly following casting Tsukuyomi in which would very likely not work as your eyes will move to the object.
It does leave you in a weakened mental state but if you train yourself against it it is easy to take off. As seen from the fight between sasuke and itachi, sasuke was a able to shrug it off without much training. In the case of kakashi we all know he has very little chakra and thus this makes genjustu even more dangerous as its harder to break. Putting kakashi in the same frame as the 1st, 2nd , 3rd and 4th is undeniably stupid on your behalf.
And on another note when your very old like the 3rd hokage you lose your chakra control and amount, mobility etc and that is the only reason orichimaru beat him.
The forth would absolutely rape susanoo by just placing the chakra sealing justu on it. Thank you and bye. you have no tact about your responses as your mind frame is already set by your sexual emotions about itachi and his wiener

 

[khaydz5]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

what are u five years old to dare me, but before that you are contradicting yourself in another thread you said that naruto is stronger than kakashi even though he is the leader, but whatever its not like you listen to reason and just over react when ppl say something that is against your opinion, no each path do not have amazing jutsus. Ok in an all out fight between nagato and itachi where nagato releases sumonings all itachi has to do is use amaterasu lke in chapter 550n to stop and slow them down or use susano to defend himself and if nagato uses shinra tensei all he has to do is block it with yata mirror and has a 5 second cool down in which he can either use high lvl genjutsu or seal him with sword of totsuka which is fast as hell go see sasuke vs itachi where he uses it and nagato is not fast and has shown no feats in that respect. and chibaku tensei takes time within which itachi can counter him with genjutsu or use his sword of totsuka which again is fast. And yes susano's yata mirror makes him defend against anything even extremely fast or strong attacks like it was nothing kirin(in which is strong as hell and fast as lightning was stopped by itaci's susano in the blink of an eye). I do admit that nagato can win but in an all out battle itachi wins due to his genjutsu and susano.

im not contradicting myself i am contradicting you.
as i said before dont bring that 5 sec cooldown coz nagato can still use other paths power while shinra tensei is on cooldown. banshou tenin can be utilized wisely like bringing a big boulder to crush or distract itachi in susanoo. the dog summon cannot be killed with an attack it will just multiply.. so using amaterasu on that summon is just stupid.

you are being stupid when yo say sword of totsuka is fast. its not moving at all, the swinging motion is fast just like any swordswing. and just like any swordswing it can only reach such distance. we never really saw itachi being fast inside susanoo, even sasuke never really moves when using susanoo.it is safe to say the user of susanoo cant barely move when it is activated. nagato can just get out of reach of itachi susanoo and itachi will be a sitting duck if nagato gets away and start hitting itachi with shinra tensei and worst cast chibaku at a distance.

you cant also bring amaterasu coz we already saw nagato can feel it before itachi use it. so it is safe to assume nagato can prepare to counter amaterasu before it is being casted. and we all saw shinra tensei can take out amaterasu as well.

KIRIN is a one time one kill attack! it is so overrated, that you forgot what sasuke goes to just to set up kirin. shinra tensei can be used repeatedly and nagato can make it stronger or weaker depending on his will making it a more effective attack than kirin.

for tsukoyomi i admit itachi would have a chance, but as far as we all know nagato also has YIN and YANG release which means he knows genjutsus as well, and if you read manga carefully nagato can put barrier on peoples minds to protect them from genjutsu.
this one is still unclear.. and i believe this is THE ONLY CHANCE itachi had on his arsenal against nagato.

overall nagato will own itachi almost 75% at any time.

 

[kadowade]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

kadowade your obviously a fanboi, itachi can only beat the 5th and possibly the 2nd, Tsukuyomi is placed upon the victim and the visual prowess is controlled by the user during the time the genjustu is placed until the finnish both the user and victim are unable to attack, the only way itachi could kill by using Tsukuyomi is by first throwing a object and immediantly following casting Tsukuyomi in which would very likely not work as your eyes will move to the object.
It does leave you in a weakened mental state but if you train yourself against it it is easy to take off. As seen from the fight between sasuke and itachi, sasuke was a able to shrug it off without much training. In the case of kakashi we all know he has very little chakra and thus this makes genjustu even more dangerous as its harder to break. Putting kakashi in the same frame as the 1st, 2nd , 3rd and 4th is undeniably stupid on your behalf.
And on another note when your very old like the 3rd hokage you lose your chakra control and amount, mobility etc and that is the only reason orichimaru beat him.
The forth would absolutely rape susanoo by just placing the chakra sealing justu on it. Thank you and bye. you have no tact about your responses as your mind frame is already set by your sexual emotions about itachi and his wiener

lol no dumbass only someone with a higher level sharingan than him can break out, watch ep. it said Itachi stated that Tsukuyomi can only be broken by a Sharingan user that shares the same blood as him; as demonstrated when Sasuke overcame Itachi's Tsukuyomi in their battle. or if someone disturb the chakra in the victims body to realease it

 

[Itachi Sacrifice]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

Itachi Sucks! He couldn't even beat Jairaya LOL stupid thread waste of time

First of all, Itachi & Jiraiya never fought. Second of all, Itachi said he could manage a stalemate with Jiraiya, which makes it also possible that he could've beaten him. Third, Jiraiya is just as strong as any Kage. You make it sound like beating Jiraiya is nothing big compared to beating a Kage, which is ridiculous.

 

[arv993]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

im not contradicting myself i am contradicting you.
as i said before dont bring that 5 sec cooldown coz nagato can still use other paths power while shinra tensei is on cooldown. banshou tenin can be utilized wisely like bringing a big boulder to crush or distract itachi in susanoo. the dog summon cannot be killed with an attack it will just multiply.. so using amaterasu on that summon is just stupid.

you are being stupid when yo say sword of totsuka is fast. its not moving at all, the swinging motion is fast just like any swordswing. and just like any swordswing it can only reach such distance. we never really saw itachi being fast inside susanoo, even sasuke never really moves when using susanoo.it is safe to say the user of susanoo cant barely move when it is activated. nagato can just get out of reach of itachi susanoo and itachi will be a sitting duck if nagato gets away and start hitting itachi with shinra tensei and worst cast chibaku at a distance.

you cant also bring amaterasu coz we already saw nagato can feel it before itachi use it. so it is safe to assume nagato can prepare to counter amaterasu before it is being casted. and we all saw shinra tensei can take out amaterasu as well.

KIRIN is a one time one kill attack! it is so overrated, that you forgot what sasuke goes to just to set up kirin. shinra tensei can be used repeatedly and nagato can make it stronger or weaker depending on his will making it a more effective attack than kirin.

for tsukoyomi i admit itachi would have a chance, but as far as we all know nagato also has YIN and YANG release which means he knows genjutsus as well, and if you read manga carefully nagato can put barrier on peoples minds to protect them from genjutsu.
this one is still unclear.. and i believe this is THE ONLY CHANCE itachi had on his arsenal against nagato.

overall nagato will own itachi almost 75% at any time.

dude read 550 the summonings stop moving after itachi uses amaterasu, and yata mirror protects itachi from any attack and dude itachi can activate susano under a second(did it against sasuke's kirin go read it) he can do it wherever he wants and can be in range and the sword is huge and fast go read the manga again stop saying things its slow it got oro b4 he can even finish his words he did not even realize it and that is fast and nagato is not that fast and can be easily sealed during the 5 sec cooldown and itachi can even slow him down with genjutsu if he wants no matter how good he is he can be slowed down by genjutsu. And tsukiyomi all he needs is 1-2 seconds to be mentally damged and nagato's paths have gotten under genjutsu b4 also so it is definitely possible and itachi is a master one of the best at genjutsu and nagato is not immune to it even if just slows down which is highly likely especially by a genjutsu master who controls time and space in his genjutu itachi in that moment can seal him. Itachi can set up his susano instantly anywhere just to let you kno. Unless they show in the next chapter that nagato can't even be slowed down or completely immune to genjutsu itachi most likely takes this.

 

[kadowade]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

dude read 550 the summonings stop moving after itachi uses amaterasu, and yata mirror protects itachi from any attack and dude itachi can activate susano under a second(did it against sasuke's kirin go read it) he can do it wherever he wants and can be in range and the sword is huge and fast go read the manga again stop saying things its slow it got oro b4 he can even finish his words he did not even realize it and that is fast and nagato is not that fast and can be easily sealed during the 5 sec cooldown and itachi can even slow him down with genjutsu if he wants no matter how good he is he can be slowed down by genjutsu. And tsukiyomi all he needs is 1-2 seconds to be mentally damged and nagato's paths have gotten under genjutsu b4 also so it is definitely possible and itachi is a master one of the best at genjutsu and nagato is not immune to it even if just slows down which is highly likely especially by a genjutsu master who controls time and space in his genjutu itachi in that moment can seal him. Itachi can set up his susano instantly anywhere just to let you kno. Unless they show in the next chapter that nagato can't even be slowed down or completely immune to genjutsu itachi most likely takes this.

It seems Nagato's bodies are affected by Genjutsu, because Jiraiya Disabled 3 bodies at once with Genjutsu alone.

 

[arv993]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

It seems Nagato's bodies are affected by Genjutsu, because Jiraiya Disabled 3 bodies at once with Genjutsu alone.

i don't kno if this is true but some ppl said that jiraya says that nagato's weakness is genjutsu

 

[kadowade]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

i don't kno if this is true but some ppl said that jiraya says that nagato's weakness is genjutsu

So far he has shown no defense against Genjutsu, otherwise he wouldve escaped jiraiya's, but he's certainly good at Taijutsu

 

[khaydz5]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

dude read 550 the summonings stop moving after itachi uses amaterasu, and yata mirror protects itachi from any attack and dude itachi can activate susano under a second(did it against sasuke's kirin go read it) he can do it wherever he wants and can be in range and the sword is huge and fast go read the manga again stop saying things its slow it got oro b4 he can even finish his words he did not even realize it and that is fast and nagato is not that fast and can be easily sealed during the 5 sec cooldown and itachi can even slow him down with genjutsu if he wants no matter how good he is he can be slowed down by genjutsu. And tsukiyomi all he needs is 1-2 seconds to be mentally damged and nagato's paths have gotten under genjutsu b4 also so it is definitely possible and itachi is a master one of the best at genjutsu and nagato is not immune to it even if just slows down which is highly likely especially by a genjutsu master who controls time and space in his genjutu itachi in that moment can seal him. Itachi can set up his susano instantly anywhere just to let you kno. Unless they show in the next chapter that nagato can't even be slowed down or completely immune to genjutsu itachi most likely takes this.

oh its useless to debate to someone as dumb as you lol. you keep repeating 5sec cooldown as if nagato will not move during that time. again orochimaru came out right infront of itachi thats why he was pierced easily.oro is weak! dont compare nagato to that. the summon will regenerate and multiply! it was stated by nagato that it cannot be defeated untill the summoner is defeated!

i know he can activate susanoo in under a sec dont you understand what i post? itachi is a sitting duck once he is inside susanoo and itachi got no way of chasing nagato if he is inside susanoo.
NAGATO can feel the pressure HE KNOWS if itachi will use the power of mangekyu as stated in the recent manga! thus he will know when will be the right time to counter any attack from itachi!

NAGATO still has YIN and YANG release we only saw one jutsu he used related to that and that is when he revived the WHOLE konoha. that means he still has other jutsus that are not yet shown to us, he still got something up his sleeves.

 

[Saaif Zaryr]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

i dont think itachi can get the 4th with tsukiyomi, when sasuke and raikage battled the raikage countered tsukiyomi with his speed and the 4ths faster than the raikage, however itachi is strong and to be honest i also dont knw the real outcome wud be.

 

[kadowade]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

oh its useless to debate to someone as dumb as you lol. you keep repeating 5sec cooldown as if nagato will not move during that time. again orochimaru came out right infront of itachi thats why he was pierced easily.oro is weak! dont compare nagato to that. the summon will regenerate and multiply! it was stated by nagato that it cannot be defeated untill the summoner is defeated!

i know he can activate susanoo in under a sec dont you understand what i post? itachi is a sitting duck once he is inside susanoo and itachi got no way of chasing nagato if he is inside susanoo.
NAGATO can feel the pressure HE KNOWS if itachi will use the power of mangekyu as stated in the recent manga! thus he will know when will be the right time to counter any attack from itachi!

NAGATO still has YIN and YANG release we only saw one jutsu he used related to that and that is when he revived the WHOLE konoha. that means he still has other jutsus that are not yet shown to us, he still got something up his sleeves.

i dont think anyone can get itachi in a Genjutsu, i mean seriouslyxd other than Shisui doujutsu, which is the strongest. I doubt Yin-Yang genjutsu will effect a Genjutsu Master such as itachi. he'll prolly break that with no sweat.

oh and pain dogs couldnt multiply when Amaterasu was placed on it. It just kept getting burned.lol

but pain will Have to get in close in order to fight itachi, itachi wont have to move unless nagato comes close.

Oh and orochimaru was BEHIND itachi the whole time, and itachi still got him in A Genjutsu. all itachi did was close his eyes.

 

[|KirA|]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

man this discussion just sucks.
fanboys say: itachi owns all
other fanboys say: itachi dont owns their idol
normal users say: itachi is strong but who knows who will win or he wont beat anyone

so die thread, die.

 

[pureozzy101]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

damn your stupid, why do you think jairaya was teaching naruto to break Tsukuyomi, obviously because with the right amount of skill its very unbreakable obviously itachi would say that about his own technique...... Fanboi
And being a genjutsu master doesnt mean you can break other peoples it just means when u use it you use it to the best of its ability, in saying this sound genjustu is 100percent more effective then visual its said to be the strongest form of genjustu and with a skilled person using it it is way more dangerous.

 

[arv993]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

oh its useless to debate to someone as dumb as you lol. you keep repeating 5sec cooldown as if nagato will not move during that time. again orochimaru came out right infront of itachi thats why he was pierced easily.oro is weak! dont compare nagato to that. the summon will regenerate and multiply! it was stated by nagato that it cannot be defeated untill the summoner is defeated!

i know he can activate susanoo in under a sec dont you understand what i post? itachi is a sitting duck once he is inside susanoo and itachi got no way of chasing nagato if he is inside susanoo.
NAGATO can feel the pressure HE KNOWS if itachi will use the power of mangekyu as stated in the recent manga! thus he will know when will be the right time to counter any attack from itachi!

NAGATO still has YIN and YANG release we only saw one jutsu he used related to that and that is when he revived the WHOLE konoha. that means he still has other jutsus that are not yet shown to us, he still got something up his sleeves.

dude but like i said it is highly likely he can be caught in genjutsu what would he do then summonings can't break susano, and even if he is caught in it for just a moment he is dead but you don't seem to understand that and still he say that he would counter it. his paths are controlled by pain and if they get in genjutsu so can he basically controls every aspect about them from their brain to their functions, so it is highly likely he would get caught in genjutsu. And btw weak or strong doesn't matter to sword of totsuka but only speed and nagato is not that fast but especially with genjutsu itachi is likely to win. Stop predicting he his ying yang release would get him powers from what we have seen so far itachi has the advantage but we will see next week what nagato has.

 

[khaydz5]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

i dont think anyone can get itachi in a Genjutsu, i mean seriouslyxd other than Shisui doujutsu, which is the strongest. I doubt Yin-Yang genjutsu will effect a Genjutsu Master such as itachi. he'll prolly break that with no sweat.

oh and pain dogs couldnt multiply when Amaterasu was placed on it. It just kept getting burned.lol

but pain will Have to get in close in order to fight itachi, itachi wont have to move unless nagato comes close.

Oh and orochimaru was BEHIND itachi the whole time, and itachi still got him in A Genjutsu. all itachi did was close his eyes.

i didnt say he will cast genjutsu to itachi. he probably can counter genjutsu. dont mention frog genjutsu here..that is a sound genjutsu and far more different than that of itachis.

wait after next chapter before you jump to conclusion dog cant multiply anymore. it wasnt shown in the manga. dont make things out.

PAIN got so many long range attacks including missles, shinra tensei, banshou and chibaku.. who said he need to get close??lol.

what are you talking behind. we're talking about the totsuka sword piercing oro, he came out right infront of itachi from sasuke's body. dont change topic just so you can say something.

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wait for my other post. still looking for the chapter where PAIN ORDERS ITACHI AND KISAME TO GO BACK TO HIDEOUT!

think first before you post.

 

[kadowade]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

damn your stupid, why do you think jairaya was teaching naruto to break Tsukuyomi, obviously because with the right amount of skill its very unbreakable obviously itachi would say that about his own technique...... Fanboi
And being a genjutsu master doesnt mean you can break other peoples it just means when u use it you use it to the best of its ability, in saying this sound genjustu is 100percent more effective then visual its said to be the strongest form of genjustu and with a skilled person using it it is way more dangerous.

Guess the question is who genjutsu's stronger
lol but He placed a genjustu on kurenai WHILE he was already in a genjutsu.
How did itachi get orochimaru in a genjutsu without looking at his eyes,
And how did he get kurani without lookin at hers?
I guess if he EVER looked at yo eyes in his life, he can get you in Genjutsu, lol that wud be cool

 

[kadowade]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

i didnt say he will cast genjutsu to itachi. he probably can counter genjutsu. dont mention frog genjutsu here..that is a sound genjutsu and far more different than that of itachis.

wait after next chapter before you jump to conclusion dog cant multiply anymore. it wasnt shown in the manga. dont make things out.

PAIN got so many long range attacks including missles, shinra tensei, banshou and chibaku.. who said he need to get close??lol.

what are you talking behind. we're talking about the totsuka sword piercing oro, he came out right infront of itachi from sasuke's body. dont change topic just so you can say something.

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wait for my other post. still looking for the chapter where PAIN ORDERS ITACHI AND KISAME TO GO BACK TO HIDEOUT!

think first before you post.

LMFAO i was talking about when OROCHIMARU WAS IN THE AKATSUKI AND HE TRIED TO TAKE ITACHI'S EYES YOU IDIOT, HE WAS BEHIND ITACHI.

And like someone said, OF COURSE itachi was gonna follow some orders to make it seem like he's loyal to them, if he didnt that wouldve made everyone in the akatsuki suspicious that he's not listening, And it wouldve been a fight, and as you know, itachi always try to avoid unnecessary fights.

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[arv993]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

i didnt say he will cast genjutsu to itachi. he probably can counter genjutsu. dont mention frog genjutsu here..that is a sound genjutsu and far more different than that of itachis.

wait after next chapter before you jump to conclusion dog cant multiply anymore. it wasnt shown in the manga. dont make things out.

PAIN got so many long range attacks including missles, shinra tensei, banshou and chibaku.. who said he need to get close??lol.

what are you talking behind. we're talking about the totsuka sword piercing oro, he came out right infront of itachi from sasuke's body. dont change topic just so you can say something.

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wait for my other post. still looking for the chapter where PAIN ORDERS ITACHI AND KISAME TO GO BACK TO HIDEOUT!

think first before you post.

dogs don't multiply unless you cut them more and more read the manga all they did after getting hit by amaterasu was bark or whatever and fall and the bird could not do anything either here is the link

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Is that enough proof they did not do anything even after all the talking and pain attacking they were just hurt and did not multiply.