Itachi's Strength

[YIN YANG]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

Itachi would wreck Hiruzen, Tobirama, and Hashirama. Of the hokages only Minato really stands a chance. And that is only because of FTG and his insane speed. Itachi auto wins against any of them because they don't have a defense for his genjutsu, especially Tsukuyomi. That isn't even counting all of his other abilities because his genjutsu beats literally everyone except Sasuke because he was related to him.

how can Itachi beat the 1st 2nd and 3rd.The first and second are incredibly fast and there strong with the mastery of there elements.They have knowledge of ancient scrolls and forbidden techs and they can definitely find a way to counter Itachi special spirit items, again The susanoo is nearly incincible it's not the inevitable.The third is strong himself even in old age the 3rd couldn't really bring himself to kill his student orochimaru and he had to seal the 1st and 2nd hokage so he died doing that.:flaw:

 

[arv993]

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I understand that Itatchi appears stronger than other because of his "feat" of overcoming impure ressurection. However this is essesntially due to good foresight or preptime. Without the crown in Naruto I don't think he would be able to control his actions, also if Kabuto didn't spread himself so think, I dont think his ability would be weakened so as to let Itatchi do as he pleases.

Second point, if Itatchi was so powerful, he would have defeated Madara himself. Prove me wrong on that point....

dude madara is not your everyday ninja or even a regular member of the akatsuki you can just go kill, he has way too many secrets(like he mention) and itachi does not kno them enough to kill him, even madara sasy itachi knew more about me he would have killed me. Madara is the strongest akatsuki member don't give me that nagato can beat him becos he can't do anything about his kamui making him intangible and not to mention this guy hyped as the most infamous ninja since 1st's era, he has way too much knowledge of things and exp to die to a young yet genius uchiha like itachi, it is not easy beating when it is even hard touching him and he tried his best by implanting amaterasu to hit him when he made contact to sasuke and even that did not work, i am just trying to say that don't make madara look like he is not that strong and can be killed that easily he is the founder of the uchiha and still might be holding back somethng it would be extremely stupid for itachi or anyone to just directly confront him and try to kill him becuz you are making yourself look like a traitor to the akatsuki and lose trust and itachi has to be in it to help konoha by keeping an eye on it.

 

[arv993]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

Itachi would wreck Hiruzen, Tobirama, and Hashirama. Of the hokages only Minato really stands a chance. And that is only because of FTG and his insane speed. Itachi auto wins against any of them because they don't have a defense for his genjutsu, especially Tsukuyomi. That isn't even counting all of his other abilities because his genjutsu beats literally everyone except Sasuke because he was related to him.

he can't wreck them especially hashirama dude this guy beat madara who put a genjutsu on a tailed beast only uchiha to do so madara definitely had some good genjutsu, and the first probably had a counter to it, he was known to be the strongest ninja of his time we kno barely anything about him other than mokuton. It is really unlikely he is gonna easily kill him. And the 2nd might have a chance cos he fought against strong uchihas all the time in his day and probably can put up a fight due o edo tensei, space time techs and hiruzen you are probably right but he was hyped up insanely during his prime and everything so that shouldn't be a walk in the park but i agree with minato that he can beat itachi but would still have a tough time cos he has to beat susano his ultimate defense. And tsunade we kno what the result would be.

 

[Pin]

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whooo itachi ftw! his loyalty to the village is just screaming for extreme respect yo!

 

[coolcomfort]

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I think itachi would beat all the kages right now except raikage because of his speed.

against previous hokage he beats tsunade, and the 3rd ( maybe not in his prime but in his old form yes). Against minato i don't think this will be a walk in the park, minato is the best shinobi ever as stated in the manga, everyone feared him. I think that itachi would loose after a LOOOONG fight. minato has the thunder god level 2 and if he would be alive in the manga i think he would have gotten MUCH stronger. he could kill madara if the kyuubi wasn't there.

youre right! minato couldn't beat by anyone. he was not just to fast he was op he against raikage and bee and they weren't able to beat him. madara fears him he finished madara in one in one fight scene. mada biggest sucker ever. i'm dissapointed of minato. why he didnt teached naruto the space jutsu in his mind oder memories or else..

 

[makinow kitomi]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

Itachi Sucks! He couldn't even beat Jairaya LOL stupid thread waste of time

Jairaya is the best but got blind-sided by one of nagato's pain..
U_U

 

[makinow kitomi]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

youre right! minato couldn't beat by anyone. he was not just to fast he was op he against raikage and bee and they weren't able to beat him. madara fears him he finished madara in one in one fight scene. mada biggest sucker ever. i'm dissapointed of minato. why he didnt teached naruto the space jutsu in his mind oder memories or else..

Yep. Minito owned Madara who was considered the best of the Uchiha Clan U_U

 

[makinow kitomi]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

youre right! minato couldn't beat by anyone. he was not just to fast he was op he against raikage and bee and they weren't able to beat him. madara fears him he finished madara in one in one fight scene. mada biggest sucker ever. i'm dissapointed of minato. why he didnt teached naruto the space jutsu in his mind oder memories or else..

Yep. Minito owned Madara who was considered the best of the Uchiha Clan U_U

 

[arv993]

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youre right! minato couldn't beat by anyone. he was not just to fast he was op he against raikage and bee and they weren't able to beat him. madara fears him he finished madara in one in one fight scene. mada biggest sucker ever. i'm dissapointed of minato. why he didnt teached naruto the space jutsu in his mind oder memories or else..

he did not have enough time to teach ftg. he had like 5 minutes to tlk to him

 

[theprimera]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

itachi in reference to jaraiya said that he and kisame combined could not hope for anything more than a stale mate, even with reinforcements.
kisame in reference to jaraiya "i am no match for him he is on a whole other level"
PEIN said that had jaraiya more intel on him he(Jaraiya) would have most likely defeated him
itachi pleaded with madara not to destroy konoha 100 percent true
guy is better in taijutsu,faster,and stronger than itachi, he also killed kisame 100 percent true
itachi has below average stamina making long battles near impossible if he relies on adv. sharingan tech 100 percent true
minato defeated both madara and the 9tails(so did hashirama)
when itachi pwnd kakashi he did not even have MS at the time(pre timeskip) at the moment kakashi is much stronger now plus he has zabuzas sword
everything i have stated is true and factual not something i made up or speculated ilook this sh.t ^

 

[Universal Enlightenment]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

Well Itachi surpassed the 3rd & 5th Hokage in data points, the data book says so.

Itachi : 35.5

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3rd Hokage : 34

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5th Hokage : 35

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Itachi did all that at the age of 18 , i believe if that whole situation with the uchiha didn't happen he'd become hokage no doubt about it. He defeated kakashi in the blink of an eye and ran circles around Kurenai , Lets no forget he beat Orochimaru twice without breaking a sweat.


Lets be real the only one who could probably beat itachi of the hokages was minato. The result of the battle would of been dramatic both of them would of died.Credit earn were credits due itachi would sweep all the previous hokages no doubt.

 

[theprimera]

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he hould more likely lose to a 3rd hokage in his prime 2 be fair in all honesty his only sure kage lvl win would probably be the 5th definitely not hashirama he defeated a young healthy madara and 9tails in avery real battle look it ^

 

[arv993]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

itachi in reference to jaraiya said that he and kisame combined could not hope for anything more than a stale mate, even with reinforcements.
kisame in reference to jaraiya "i am no match for him he is on a whole other level"
PEIN said that had jaraiya more intel on him he(Jaraiya) would have most likely defeated him
itachi pleaded with madara not to destroy konoha 100 percent true
guy is better in taijutsu,faster,and stronger than itachi, he also killed kisame 100 percent true
itachi has below average stamina making long battles near impossible if he relies on adv. sharingan tech 100 percent true
minato defeated both madara and the 9tails(so did hashirama)
when itachi pwnd kakashi he did not even have MS at the time(pre timeskip) at the moment kakashi is much stronger now plus he has zabuzas sword
everything i have stated is true and factual not something i made up or speculated ilook this sh.t ^

minato defeated a weak madara where as hashirama defeated a strong madara and defeated nine tails but did not die. It is a big difference

 

[YIN YANG]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

Well Itachi surpassed the 3rd & 5th Hokage in data points, the data book says so.

Itachi : 35.5

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3rd Hokage : 34

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5th Hokage : 35

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Itachi did all that at the age of 18 , i believe if that whole situation with the uchiha didn't happen he'd become hokage no doubt about it. He defeated kakashi in the blink of an eye and ran circles around Kurenai , Lets no forget he beat Orochimaru twice without breaking a sweat.


Lets be real the only one who could probably beat itachi of the hokages was minato. The result of the battle would of been dramatic both of them would of died.Credit earn were credits due itachi would sweep all the previous hokages no doubt.

Why don't you be real, are you serious how can Itachi beat the hokages beside tsunade and lets just take a look at that book so would tsunade be able to beat the 3rd hokage too.:flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw:
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[arv993]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

Why don't you be real, are you serious how can Itachi beat the hokages beside tsunade and lets just take a look at that book so would tsunade be able to beat the 3rd hokage too.:flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw:
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you are exactly right never take the databook for who is gonna win in a fight becos according to the databook naruto is weaker than kakshi, tsunade and gaara, which does not make sense.

 

[YellowFang]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

minato defeated a weak madara where as hashirama defeated a strong madara and defeated nine tails but did not die. It is a big difference

Yeah right!!! it's really a big difference..........
Hashirama faced prime Madara having EMS, insanely powerful at nin, tai and probably genjutsu(not sure about all this) but if this hyped Madara is overpowered he is nothing but a loser..........so Hashirama pawned him AND MADARA LOST TO HIM if he could win he would have beaten hashirama and taken his DNA:flaw:
Minato faced a weak form of madara having S/T nin, Izanagi, Intangibility and Immortality(and I'm 100% sure about this) but if this unhyped Madara is overpowered he won't lose easily, he can evade almost every single attack and would be too difficult to catch...........still Minato pawned him. Minato surpassed him in S/T usage, outsmarted him, flopped his intangibility, pulled kyuubi out of his control, placed his FTG mark on him, RASENGANed him and just destroyed him from every perspective..........:flaw:

These are clear cut facts,Dude ......so stop comparing Hashirama and Minato WRT these fights.U_U

 

[Captain Shodai]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

He is certainly stronger than the third and fifth. The first and fourth might have comparable skill and we dont know enoigh about the second to say if hes stronger.

 

[theprimera]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

itachi chose 2 plea with the same weak madara so what does that say about him?
if he(itachi ) could have defeated madara why bargain with him? don't worry about answering that, its painfully obvious why. the same reason why nagato headed akatsuki and not itachi.

 

[kadowade]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

he is not and this was never EVER indicated or stated. now you FB/Gs are just making things up,and YES it is a tall glass of ice cold LIE. naruto is as fast as the 4th now who was by far the fastest ever, no shinobi in all of naruto-verse could refute this. itachi is not the end-all beat-all of ninja if he was madara would be long dead by now and itachi's face would be up there with the rest of the hokages. plz be honest in your assessment of a characters strength. i like itachi too but i won't/refuse to pay him undeserved dues.

p.s. as much as this may hurt your ears this is naruto shippuden not ITACHI SHIPPUDEN:flaw:

lol you think itachi couldnt have been nominated the title hokage, If kakashi was suggested as hokage of course itachi could have. But itachi was a Rouge Ninja he wasent even in the leaf village, everybody saw him as a traitor, so he couldnt be hokage at the time.
And itachi said madara was his Teacher, so why would he kill him, He had no reason to kill him before. But when Madara was talkin to sasuke, he stated" If itachi had known i knew about him, he wouldve been killed me." watch the ep. but he cant kill madara now, since he has 7 tailed beast and Sharingan & Rinnegan

 

[theprimera]

Re: Itachi is stronger than previous Hokages

lol you think itachi couldnt have been nominated the title hokage, If kakashi was suggested as hokage of course itachi could have. But itachi was a Rouge Ninja he wasent even in the leaf village, everybody saw him as a traitor, so he couldnt be hokage at the time.
And itachi said madara was his Teacher, so why would he kill him, He had no reason to kill him before. But when Madara was talkin to sasuke, he stated" If itachi had known i knew about him, he wouldve been killed me." watch the ep. but he cant kill madara now, since he has 7 tailed beast and Sharingan & Rinnegan

ofcourse he could be, the point i am trying to make is if itachi was stronger than madara who minato defeated he would have defeated him long time ago, and he most certainly would not need to be taught by someone weaker than himself. itachi is strong no denying that, just not as strong as many seem to believe. and yes he had full knowledge of who madara was he begged madara not to attack konoha, and in exchange he would exterminate the uchiha for betraying him. 100 percent true btw.