itachi's strength(worth reading)

[itachi the great]

As far as knowledge goes, one disadvantage for Minato is that when he died, Itachi was only 7 or 8. He knows nothing of Itachi and his techs, fighting style etc, while Itachi should know a lot about the latter, seeing as how Minato is so well known. Even people from other lands know Minato's jutsu (FTG, Rasengan, etc.). With that said, there is nothing stopping Minato from looking Into Itachi's eyes at the start of the fight. He doesn't know that Itachi is an Uchiha, so even if he knows that Uchha's use ocular genjutu, it would do him no good. Once he looks into Itachi's eyes, that's it, due to lack of knowledge and that we haven't seen any feats from Minato that suggest that he can break out of genjutsu, let alone Tsukuyomi by Itachi of all people. Factoring out Tsukuyomi for now, let's say that the fight progresses, and Minato spreads out his kunai. The essential point to his jutsu is to tag his opponent with the formula. Itachi is a master with his clone jutsu and can make different kinds. I can see Minato attemping to tag Itachi, but tagging an exploding clone (something that many have forgotten that Itachi can make) then it exploding on contact, and since Minato has no intel on this jutsu, he wouldn't think to jump to a different kunai before explosion occurs, or that the clone even explodes in the first place.

I'm sure that Minato would have a chance if he had intel on Itachi, but with no intel, I can't see him winning this. With full intel on both sides, I'd say that the fight could go either way,but the second a mistake is made by either side, they will lose to the other. Just for reference, I'll list most if not all of their known techs.

Itachi:
Amaterasu
Susano'o (with Totsuka Blade & Yata Mirror)
Tsukuyomi (cast with eye contact or the point of his finger)
Clone Jutsu (exploding & crow)
Izanami
Master at Shuriken jutsu

Minato:
FTG
Rasengan
Expert at shuriken jutsu?
Multiple sealing techs

 

[Dissonant Values]

As far as knowledge goes, one disadvantage for Minato is that when he died, Itachi was only 7 or 8. He knows nothing of Itachi and his techs, fighting style etc, while Itachi should know a lot about the latter, seeing as how Minato is so well known. Even people from other lands know Minato's jutsu (FTG, Rasengan, etc.). With that said, there is nothing stopping Minato from looking Into Itachi's eyes at the start of the fight. He doesn't know that Itachi is an Uchiha, so even if he knows that Uchha's use ocular genjutu, it would do him no good. Once he looks into Itachi's eyes, that's it, due to lack of knowledge and that we haven't seen any feats from Minato that suggest that he can break out of genjutsu, let alone Tsukuyomi by Itachi of all people. Factoring out Tsukuyomi for now, let's say that the fight progresses, and Minato spreads out his kunai. The essential point to his jutsu is to tag his opponent with the formula. Itachi is a master with his clone jutsu and can make different kinds. I can see Minato attemping to tag Itachi, but tagging an exploding clone (something that many have forgotten that Itachi can make) then it exploding on contact, and since Minato has no intel on this jutsu, he wouldn't think to jump to a different kunai before explosion occurs, or that the clone even explodes in the first place.

I'm sure that Minato would have a chance if he had intel on Itachi, but with no intel, I can't see him winning this. With full intel on both sides, I'd say that the fight could go either way,but the second a mistake is made by either side, they will lose to the other. Just for reference, I'll list most if not all of their known techs.

Itachi:
Amaterasu
Susano'o (with Totsuka Blade & Yata Mirror)
Tsukuyomi (cast with eye contact or the point of his finger)
Clone Jutsu (exploding & crow)
Izanami
Master at Shuriken jutsu

Minato:
FTG
Rasengan
Expert at shuriken jutsu?
Multiple sealing techs

That's the bad thing about being part of a clan....you kind of have clan techniques that everyone knows about...

 

[itachi the great]

That's the bad thing about being part of a clan....you kind of have clan techniques that everyone knows about...

every uchiha doesn't have the mangekyo sharingan and susanoo.

 

[chintu234]

As far as knowledge goes, one disadvantage for Minato is that when he died, Itachi was only 7 or 8. He knows nothing of Itachi and his techs, fighting style etc, while Itachi should know a lot about the latter, seeing as how Minato is so well known. Even people from other lands know Minato's jutsu (FTG, Rasengan, etc.). With that said, there is nothing stopping Minato from looking Into Itachi's eyes at the start of the fight. He doesn't know that Itachi is an Uchiha, so even if he knows that Uchha's use ocular genjutu, it would do him no good. Once he looks into Itachi's eyes, that's it, due to lack of knowledge and that we haven't seen any feats from Minato that suggest that he can break out of genjutsu, let alone Tsukuyomi by Itachi of all people. Factoring out Tsukuyomi for now, let's say that the fight progresses, and Minato spreads out his kunai. The essential point to his jutsu is to tag his opponent with the formula. Itachi is a master with his clone jutsu and can make different kinds. I can see Minato attemping to tag Itachi, but tagging an exploding clone (something that many have forgotten that Itachi can make) then it exploding on contact, and since Minato has no intel on this jutsu, he wouldn't think to jump to a different kunai before explosion occurs, or that the clone even explodes in the first place.

I'm sure that Minato would have a chance if he had intel on Itachi, but with no intel, I can't see him winning this. With full intel on both sides, I'd say that the fight could go either way,but the second a mistake is made by either side, they will lose to the other. Just for reference, I'll list most if not all of their known techs.

Itachi:
Amaterasu
Susano'o (with Totsuka Blade & Yata Mirror)
Tsukuyomi (cast with eye contact or the point of his finger)
Clone Jutsu (exploding & crow)
Izanami
Master at Shuriken jutsu

Minato:
FTG
Rasengan
Expert at shuriken jutsu?
Multiple sealing techs

u mad bro???
itachi was in the village when minato was hokage he might have met him some day in the past or atlst saw him with his uchiha crest on his back
or else simple solution is itachi always enters into the battle with his sharingan activated

 

[Yuffosan]

As far as knowledge goes, one disadvantage for Minato is that when he died, Itachi was only 7 or 8. He knows nothing of Itachi and his techs, fighting style etc, while Itachi should know a lot about the latter, seeing as how Minato is so well known. Even people from other lands know Minato's jutsu (FTG, Rasengan, etc.). With that said, there is nothing stopping Minato from looking Into Itachi's eyes at the start of the fight. He doesn't know that Itachi is an Uchiha, so even if he knows that Uchha's use ocular genjutu, it would do him no good. Once he looks into Itachi's eyes, that's it, due to lack of knowledge and that we haven't seen any feats from Minato that suggest that he can break out of genjutsu, let alone Tsukuyomi by Itachi of all people. Factoring out Tsukuyomi for now, let's say that the fight progresses, and Minato spreads out his kunai. The essential point to his jutsu is to tag his opponent with the formula. Itachi is a master with his clone jutsu and can make different kinds. I can see Minato attemping to tag Itachi, but tagging an exploding clone (something that many have forgotten that Itachi can make) then it exploding on contact, and since Minato has no intel on this jutsu, he wouldn't think to jump to a different kunai before explosion occurs, or that the clone even explodes in the first place.

I'm sure that Minato would have a chance if he had intel on Itachi, but with no intel, I can't see him winning this. With full intel on both sides, I'd say that the fight could go either way,but the second a mistake is made by either side, they will lose to the other. Just for reference, I'll list most if not all of their known techs.

Itachi:
Amaterasu
Susano'o (with Totsuka Blade & Yata Mirror)
Tsukuyomi (cast with eye contact or the point of his finger)
Clone Jutsu (exploding & crow)
Izanami
Master at Shuriken jutsu

Minato:
FTG
Rasengan
Expert at shuriken jutsu?
Multiple sealing techs

That is a bullshit argument. Just admit you were wrong and we'll let you off newbie.

 

[Inichi Matsuka]

Easy to tell he's an Uchiha; he has Sharingan activated all the damn time. Also the Uchiha clan has been around for centuries alongside the Leaf; a Hokage is bound to have information on techniques unlocked by the Mangekyo Sharingan. Madara for one had Susano'o, which leads us to infer that he had awakened abilities in both eyes; that most likely being Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi.

 

[itachi the great]

i don't want to waste anymore of my time typing to put something in tour heads. you will see in some of the upcoming manga chapters what minato is capable of and what itachi was capable of. until then goodbye people.
itachi>>>>>minato>>>>>nagato

 

[Yuffosan]

i don't want to waste anymore of my time typing to put something in tour heads. you will see in some of the upcoming manga chapters what minato is capable of and what itachi was capable of. until then goodbye people.
itachi>>>>>minato>>>>>nagato

Go sniff your panties.

 

[BREAKD]

That is a bullshit argument. Just admit you were wrong and we'll let you off newbie.

I'd go with what he says...
You're bringing up arguments that can be compared to a pile of shit.
While I have brought u clear solid facts and not just wild assumptions you just keep on blathering.
Just admit that you suck at this and we can all go living our lives again

 

[Inichi Matsuka]

i don't want to waste anymore of my time typing to put something in tour heads. you will see in some of the upcoming manga chapters what minato is capable of and what itachi was capable of. until then goodbye people.
itachi>>>>>minato>>>>>nagato

And that is how you know you've lost.. your status and mood are also dead giveaways.. Don't be sad just because you were forced to back down from an argument that no one can prove in the end.

 

[Jukain]

i don't want to waste anymore of my time typing to put something in tour heads. you will see in some of the upcoming manga chapters what minato is capable of and what itachi was capable of. until then goodbye people.
itachi>>>>>minato>>>>>nagato

Your a moron Nagato>Itachi=Minato

 

[Baka Sennin]

it took a free EDO Itachi and two perfect jinchuurki to fight against a CONTROLLED Nagato, and even then itachi shouldnt have been able to see the king of hell let alone blind the chakra manifestation with kunai -.- the rinnegan is also the progenitor of itachi's eyes and nagato has a body well suited for it, meaning tht genjutsu would most likely not work, itachi never even tried on nagato despite having plenty of chances to do so and it being his signature technique.

as to minato, in the maybe three chapters he was screened he made more feats than itachi did while alive, while showing nowhere near his full arsenal. he knows how to fight against sharingan users given how he fought obito after he had pulled the kyuubi from his control, and speed is the bane of the sharingan as shown over and over, and there's no one faster than minato. tsukuyomi takes time to activate, itachi has to close his eyes, activate the ms and make eye contact, not ideal against someone who you can't even let touch you. amaterasu is useless because it's easily sensed and can be dodged, teleported away from or sealed by minato. yasanaka magatama can be avoided by teleportation or the space time barrier. and the totsuka sword has only hit two characters who were completely unable to move, let alone dodge, so i don't imagine it will be hitting minato. itachi's speed, strength and stamina are also inferior to minato's, and the intellect is roughly equal, so his best shot is tsukuyomi which can be countered through multidirectional speed and teleporting and clones, while itachi has to avoid the slightest contact from minato and that assuming he has full knowledge of ftg which not even his students had.

 

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

the AO quote was about shishui

nagato>itachi
itachi>minato

 

[SashaUchiha]

I read the whole thing... Me being the Itachi fan-girl and all...

I will take Itachi > Nagato on the basis of the fact that he did beat crazy-edo Nagato. + Nagato is not really a warrior, he has awesome techs but he is not very good at using them to the best of their potential.

Itachi > Minato? Inconclusive U_U We still don't know what Minato is capable of. Matching him up is unfair.

Finally, I didn't read what everyone else said, but how many years are we going to have these same comparisons and discussions? :|

 

[VongolaX]

minato>>>>>>>>>itachi=nagato

itachi has no answer to ct as well as nagato has none to tsukyomi

 

[God Itachi]

good points in this thread

 

[Yuffosan]

I read the whole thing... Me being the Itachi fan-girl and all...

I will take Itachi > Nagato on the basis of the fact that he did beat crazy-edo Nagato. + Nagato is not really a warrior, he has awesome techs but he is not very good at using them to the best of their potential.

Itachi > Minato? Inconclusive U_U We still don't know what Minato is capable of. Matching him up is unfair.

Finally, I didn't read what everyone else said, but how many years are we going to have these same comparisons and discussions? :|

Itachi did not defeat the CONTROLED Edo Nagato single-handedly

 

[VongolaX]

Itachi did not defeat the CONTROLED Edo Nagato single-handedly

He did...It took itachi, bee, and naruto to beat CT. Itachi dealt with nagato alone after saving bee and some naruto clone.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

oh my god ..... this itachi obsession is going too far (ruining the character, some people are actually sick of seeing the name itachi) .....

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[Uchiha Gohan]

I would to say that if Itachi faced Minato and Nagato, that he would be able fight on par with them.

Minato: Minato has god level speed/reaction time and would most likely be able to dodge most of what Itachi throws at him. However needless to say, Itachi is a genius and would be able make up so plan or tactic to catch Minato. In the end Minato > Itachi. Itachi is very good, but Minato is a High Level Kage. He is no chump. Itachi will be able to inflict some wounds, maybe serious, but he won't be able to kill him.

Nagato: Nagato, it really depends which form we are talking about here. Are we talking about Nagato or 6 Paths of Pain? Nagato, I don't believe Itachi would be able to kill Nagato. Nagato has too much sustain and ability diversity for one person. Would it be impossible for Itachi to kill Nagato? no, it all depends on the scenario and prep they have. As for the 6 Paths of Pain, Itachi wins by default. It's a strategy game, a game that Itachi succeeds in. He can fight individual parts of Nagato, but not Nagato himself. Naruto won against 6 Paths of Pain because he split them up and picked them off, Itachi could easily do that.

Conclusion:
Minato >= Itachi
Nagato > Itachi
6 Paths of Pain < Itachi

Itachi is awesome, but let's face facts. He is the one of the best from the older Gen. Not the Best, one of the best.