itachi's strength(worth reading)

[Yuffosan]

thanks for wasting my time fanboy...
Now as I am here I can better do something with it.



this part is bothering me the most actually...


First of all, were the hell did U ever think that Itachi could beat Tobi? You don't beat somebody with the words 'almost'.
Now I don't say he would insta die against Tobi not at all! He would have a fairly good chance. But if you say that you
will prove to us why Itachi is so powerful with solid arguments. I'd have to concur, cause you OBVIOUSLY have another
view on the word 'solid' argument' then me.
Second of all it is clearly stated in the manga/anime that:

Spoiler

As the Sharingan evolves, gaining more tomoe, this ability extends to being able to track fast-moving objects before finally giving some amount of predictive capabilities to the user, allowing them to see the image of an attacker's next move from the slightest muscle tension in their body and counter-attack or dodge without any wasted movement.[9] However, even though the user may be able to see an attack or know it is coming, their body may not always have time to react.

Hereby we can conclude that, it doesn't matter wether you can predict movement or not, as from the point that your body
cant keep up another with the movements this ability is rendered completely useless against an opponent like Minato.
Even the Raikage stated that Minato was faster then him...
.
I am not an Itachi hater character, NOT AT ALL
I actually see him as one of my favorites too, for he truly knows the meaning of a shinobi's life.
But next time you wanna 'prove' Itachi is the best and you have 'solid arguments' to support it.
Please... do not make me type bullshit like this and make me waste 10 minutes of my life.

sincerely,
Me.

HAHAHAHAHA I bet you made the kid wet his panties! Take that Itachi fanboy!

 

[itachi the great]

thanks for wasting my time fanboy...
Now as I am here I can better do something with it.



this part is bothering me the most actually...


First of all, were the hell did U ever think that Itachi could beat Tobi? You don't beat somebody with the words 'almost'.
Now I don't say he would insta die against Tobi not at all! He would have a fairly good chance. But if you say that you
will prove to us why Itachi is so powerful with solid arguments. I'd have to concur, cause you OBVIOUSLY have another
view on the word 'solid' argument' then me.
Second of all it is clearly stated in the manga/anime that:

Spoiler

As the Sharingan evolves, gaining more tomoe, this ability extends to being able to track fast-moving objects before finally giving some amount of predictive capabilities to the user, allowing them to see the image of an attacker's next move from the slightest muscle tension in their body and counter-attack or dodge without any wasted movement.[9] However, even though the user may be able to see an attack or know it is coming, their body may not always have time to react.

Hereby we can conclude that, it doesn't matter wether you can predict movement or not, as from the point that your body
cant keep up another with the movements this ability is rendered completely useless against an opponent like Minato.
Even the Raikage stated that Minato was faster then him...
.
I am not an Itachi hater character, NOT AT ALL
I actually see him as one of my favorites too, for he truly knows the meaning of a shinobi's life.
But next time you wanna 'prove' Itachi is the best and you have 'solid arguments' to support it.
Please... do not make me type bullshit like this and make me waste 10 minutes of my life.

sincerely,
Me.

i didn't ask you to reply but thanks for wasting my 10 minutes to read it. minato has no experience in fighting the uchihas like itachi, he has not seen the susanoo and he doesn't know how to counter tsukyomi so he doesn't know thier abilities. and if kakashi and even sakura was able to figure out the ability of warping objects into other dimension then obviously itachi would have figured it out too and then thought of some way to counter it.

 

[roncato]

bro..you said it was worth reading...lol

Really..When you compared these 3 together.. Itachi, Nagato and Minato, it became such a bs.

You shouldn't have done it. However, I liked all these facts about Itachi, that he's smart, a genius, etc. As we already saw in Naruto Shippuuden series Itachi is stronger than Nagato, but you cant compare Itachi with Minato and Minato with Nagato. We will never know who would be the stronger, as we aren't this anime's creators.

 

[Dissonant Values]

i didn't ask you to reply but thanks for wasting my 10 minutes to read it. minato has no experience in fighting the uchihas like itachi, he has not seen the susanoo and he doesn't know how to counter tsukyomi so he doesn't know thier abilities. and if kakashi and even sakura was able to figure out the ability of warping objects into other dimension then obviously itachi would have figured it out too and then thought of some way to counter it.

That's total bull, you think that Sandaime just *decided* that the Uchiha threat of a coup was a very real thing only after he took up the mantle of Hokage again? Tobirama knew that the Uchiha were dangerous even back in his time. As Hokage Minato would've most definitely been trained in defensive techniques against the Uchiha should they ever stage a coup, which had the Kyuubi not killed Minato, he would've dealt with during his lifetime.

 

[mrcrazyboyravi]

today i am going to tell everyone how powerful is itachi with some solid arguments, i am not bashing any character. trust me its worth reading.

itachi and nagato
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Nagato has more destructive power, but if he was to fight Itachi, he'd lose.
Ninjutsu don't work on him thanks to his ability to absorb chakra, and he's fairly safe from taijutsu due to having no blind spots, but he has no protection against genjutsu.The six bodies and his summons having a linked field of vision mean that you need to cast a genjutsu on only one of them to trap them all.
That makes Itachi - arguably the best genjutsu user in the whole series - the worst possible match for him.
His strongest attacks (Shinra Tensei/Bansho Ten'in and Chibaku Tensei) wouldn't work because Susanoo anchors its user to the ground so he can;t be pulled/pushed around.
As Kabuto stated, Nagato isn't very mobile, which leaves him quite vulnerable to being sealed away by the Sword of Totsuka.Other than that, Itachi has Tsukuyomi, Kotoamatsukami (if they're fighting before him talking with Naruto) and Izanami.

itachi and minato​

The 4th got no experience with tsukuyomi, and differently no experience facing itachi's genjutsu. And itachi could beat tobi, he almost killed him with out even being there by sealing his eye tech. in sasukes sharingan.. itachi's will save him this fight bc hes fast enough to dodge close range attacks by the 4th that his sharingan will be showing him..
(Itachi is a master with kunai)

Shurikenjutsu​

Even in his youth, Itachi could perfectly hit an intricate set of nine targets, one of which was hidden in a blind-spot, by accurately deflecting one kunai off another to ensure they struck mark. During his fight with the controlledNagato, he was able to blind Nagato's summons despite the shared field of vision granted by theRinnegan.Itachi was also very skilled with shuriken, with Sasuke stating that Itachi was best with such tools, even more so than their own father. During their fight at the Uchiha Hideout, Itachi was able to counter every one of Sasuke's shuriken with his own whilst simultaneously making ashadow clone, all despite his extremely deteriorated vision.
Itachi is very powerful in genjutsu.

Genjutsu​

Itachi was especially praised for his skills in genjutsu, such as casting one by merely pointing at someone or turning opponents' genjutsu against them.According to Ao, he could even use his genjutsu to take control of other individuals from a long distance. With the Sharingan, Itachi reached the point where he could even make use of one of the Uchiha clan's ultimate dōjutsu, Izanami, and had knowledge of its counterpart, Izanagi.
Itachi is very smart..

Intellect​

Itachi has been shown to be analytical and perceptive, being able to deduce the inner workings and weaknesses of powerful techniques, even while under pressure. He orchestrated his battle against Sasuke to bring about his desired outcomes, and even account for the possibility that his plan wouldn't go as intended by sealing his powerinto Sasuke and placing a special crow inside of Naruto Uzumaki. Even Tobi himself admitted that if he hadn't kept a few secrets from Itachi he would be dead.
On top of his perceptive skills, Kabuto also noted that Itachi possessed skill in deception due to Itachi's ability to read people's feelings, and this made him a ninja of lies up until his death.
Itachi is winning this, if anything.. hes prolly one of the most powerful ninjas in the naruverse.. id even say hes above most of the kage, sasuke fought 4 or 5 all at the same time in a weakened state, so yeah..


conclusion:
itachi is >>nagato>>minato so now fanboys go away.

The person who shit on his pants when he saw Jiraiya and The same person who lost to a teenage kid sasugay is no better than Ramen Guy to me

 

[Yuffosan]

i didn't ask you to reply but thanks for wasting my 10 minutes to read it. minato has no experience in fighting the uchihas like itachi, he has not seen the susanoo and he doesn't know how to counter tsukyomi so he doesn't know thier abilities. and if kakashi and even sakura was able to figure out the ability of warping objects into other dimension then obviously itachi would have figured it out too and then thought of some way to counter it.

How about this fanboy, what if...even though Itachi knew exactly how Minato's FTG worked, does that mean that he would have the capabilities of countering it? Minato's greatest feat. is his speed. It should not be taken lightly. Minato was feared because he could kill a whole platoon by myself in a few seconds. And so what if Minato has no experience in fighting other Uchihas like Itachi? I'm sure Naruto never fought an Uzumaki with a ****ing Rinnegan like Nagato's but look what happened? Naruto won! Your fanboy brain is clouding your brain. Either that or you dont even have a brain.

 

[roncato]

That's total bull, you think that Sandaime just *decided* that the Uchiha threat of a coup was a very real thing only after he took up the mantle of Hokage again? Tobirama knew that the Uchiha were dangerous even back in his time. As Hokage Minato would've most definitely been trained in defensive techniques against the Uchiha should they ever stage a coup, which had the Kyuubi not killed Minato, he would've dealt with during his lifetime.

Are you trying to create some new facts? We don't know that yet, so you can't say it.

 

[Inichi Matsuka]

So.. to counteract "fanboys" of Nagato and Minato, you show an astounding display of fanboyism yourself.. makes sense :|

itachi and nagato
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Nagato has more destructive power, but if he was to fight Itachi, he'd lose.
Ninjutsu don't work on him thanks to his ability to absorb chakra, and he's fairly safe from taijutsu due to having no blind spots, but he has no protection against genjutsu.The six bodies and his summons having a linked field of vision mean that you need to cast a genjutsu on only one of them to trap them all.
That makes Itachi - arguably the best genjutsu user in the whole series - the worst possible match for him.
His strongest attacks (Shinra Tensei/Bansho Ten'in and Chibaku Tensei) wouldn't work because Susanoo anchors its user to the ground so he can;t be pulled/pushed around.
As Kabuto stated, Nagato isn't very mobile, which leaves him quite vulnerable to being sealed away by the Sword of Totsuka.Other than that, Itachi has Tsukuyomi, Kotoamatsukami (if they're fighting before him talking with Naruto) and Izanami.

I will say that Itachi is a much more experienced ninja than Nagato- but I think you're underestimating him quite a bit. You mentioned that Nagato isn't very mobile, but that would be referring to the Nagato as resurrected with Edo Tensei. I wouldn't exactly say that's a fair matchup. If it's only Nagato, he also has a favorable amount of ability in genjutsu. This was shown by his ability to install mental barriers in his minions' minds. Even in a weakened state such as when he was resurrected, he was able to adeptly make use of every ability the Six Paths Technique carried. Also, not being able to be pushed back by Shinra Tensei is something you inferred. Susano'o is in fact susceptible to attack if the ground underneath it is shifted or manipulated as shown when Gaara used sand to pull Madara out of his own Susano'o. This could easily be done by the force of said Shinra Tensei or even Banshō Ten'in, because as I previously stated Nagato was able to use the Six Paths beyond the extend of the Pains, meaning he could cause more destructive force than when he destroyed Konoha through Deva Pain. His visual techniques could pose a problem to Nagato, but I think he'd be matched in just about everything else.

Spoiler

itachi and minato​

The 4th got no experience with tsukuyomi, and differently no experience facing itachi's genjutsu. And itachi could beat tobi, he almost killed him with out even being there by sealing his eye tech. in sasukes sharingan.. itachi's will save him this fight bc hes fast enough to dodge close range attacks by the 4th that his sharingan will be showing him..
(Itachi is a master with kunai)

Shurikenjutsu​

Even in his youth, Itachi could perfectly hit an intricate set of nine targets, one of which was hidden in a blind-spot, by accurately deflecting one kunai off another to ensure they struck mark. During his fight with the controlled Nagato, he was able to blind Nagato's summons despite the shared field of vision granted by the Rinnegan. Itachi was also very skilled with shuriken, with Sasuke stating that Itachi was best with such tools, even more so than their own father. During their fight at the Uchiha Hideout, Itachi was able to counter every one of Sasuke's shuriken with his own whilst simultaneously making ashadow clone, all despite his extremely deteriorated vision.
Itachi is very powerful in genjutsu.

Genjutsu​

Itachi was especially praised for his skills in genjutsu, such as casting one by merely pointing at someone or turning opponents' genjutsu against them. According to Ao, he could even use his genjutsu to take control of other individuals from a long distance. With the Sharingan, Itachi reached the point where he could even make use of one of the Uchiha clan's ultimate dōjutsu, Izanami, and had knowledge of its counterpart, Izanagi.
Itachi is very smart..

Intellect​

Itachi has been shown to be analytical and perceptive, being able to deduce the inner workings and weaknesses of powerful techniques, even while under pressure. He orchestrated his battle against Sasuke to bring about his desired outcomes, and even account for the possibility that his plan wouldn't go as intended by sealing his powerinto Sasuke and placing a special crow inside of Naruto Uzumaki. Even Tobi himself admitted that if he hadn't kept a few secrets from Itachi he would be dead.
On top of his perceptive skills, Kabuto also noted that Itachi possessed skill in deception due to Itachi's ability to read people's feelings, and this made him a ninja of lies up until his death.
Itachi is winning this, if anything.. hes prolly one of the most powerful ninjas in the naruverse.. id even say hes above most of the kage, sasuke fought 4 or 5 all at the same time in a weakened state, so yeah..

As for Minato, you are also underestimating him. I am aware that many seem to overrate him, but this by no means equates to him not being able to understand Itachi's jutsu.
First of all, saying that he almost killed Tobi is an overstatement. Tobi was taken by surprise by Amaterasu, and therefore wasn't able to dematerialize and was hit by it, however he was able to "extinguish" it with his own ability. Also, what? I know Itachi is fast and that the Sharingan gives the user the ability to see more clearly and predict movement, but just because he can see it coming does not mean he'll be able to dodge it. Minato in theory could also place a seal on Itachi and teleport inside the Susano'o if need be, which is something I discussed here long ago. Minato was praised as a prodigy and was appointed as Hokage before the age of Thirty, meaning that at the time of the third's resignation, he was the best ninja in the village, only to improve subsequently. Minato was also skilled with kunai, being able to sever one of Bee's tentacles with little to no leverage. Coupled with his many supposed points he could teleport to, he might be able to rival even Itachi's shuriken abilities. Although I do feel as if Minato vs. Itachi is a better matchup, you are supremely underestimating everyone other than Itachi, with little to no skill comparisons and instead just claims that the opponent has no knowledge of this or that they wouldn't be able to dodge something or avoid it. Saying that Sasuke almost took down all of the Kage is also a misconception. He regained chakra from Zetsu; if not for that, Mei could have killed him there. Also, he may have interchangeably been fighting them, but they were fighting individually, and together all five Kage were able to give Madara enough trouble to hold him for an extended time. Not to mention that your mention of Sasuke is completely unrelated.

 

[chintu234]

ems, has the stronger technique than the rinnegan. Also, ems madara rapes nagato so ems > rinnegan

how the hell is ems>rinnegan
u mad bro??
ems evolves into rinnegan so how come ems is stronger???
its like saying goku ssj2 is stronger than goku ssj3

 

[Dissonant Values]

Are you trying to create some new facts? We don't know that yet, so you can't say it.

They aren't "New Facts." Tobirama says to Sasuke that the Uchiha are a clan steeped in evil and that it was only a matter of time before they rebelled. Sandaime ordered Itachi to kill the entire clan not long after Minato died, which meant that the coup was something being planned even while he was Hokage. That being the case don't you think the Hokage would be informed and would then brush up on defensive measures to take?

 

[BREAKD]

i didn't ask you to reply but thanks for wasting my 10 minutes to read it. minato has no experience in fighting the uchihas like itachi, he has not seen the susanoo and he doesn't know how to counter tsukyomi so he doesn't know thier abilities. and if kakashi and even sakura was able to figure out the ability of warping objects into other dimension then obviously itachi would have figured it out too and then thought of some way to counter it.

I never asked you to read it either
Though it clearly seems you don't read all that much cause you don't know much of the circumstances
and abilities of certain techniques.

minato has no experience in fighting the uchihas like itachi

Minato was HOKAGE in the village were the Uchiha lived for crying out loud... How can he not know
the abilities of the Uchiha if they are living next door.

he has not seen the susanoo and he doesn't know how to counter tsukyomi so he doesn't know thier abilities.

This is what being a shinobi is all about. Do you really think Itachi knows everything about Minato's abilities?
A true shinobi's strength lies half in the part of figuring out the flaws in the opponents abilities and finding the
weak spots. This is something that determines whether a shinobi is 'strong' or not.
Same goes for Itachi, do you think he ever saw Flying Thunder God Technique?
So going by your assumptions (stated above) cause he never ever saw it before he can't counter it and Itachi loses...

and if kakashi and even sakura was able to figure out the ability of warping objects into other dimension then obviously itachi would have figured it out too and then thought of some way to counter it

Yet again you choose to use blind assumptions instead of those so called 'solid arguments'.
you're just making an illogical chain event. Something the biggest idiot can do. I'll give you an example.

first part naruto rock lee> Sasuke
Shippuuden Sasuke> Itachi

So going by your logic, rock lee can beat itachi.
Good going fanboy, just locked yourself in the idiot zone!

As stated I am not an Itachi hater, I used to like him ALOT but idiots like who are the problem
of him getting a bad name. So please, just shut up and don't ruin the entirecharacter before
kishi shuts down the series.

 

[roncato]

How about this fanboy, what if...even though Itachi knew exactly how Minato's FTG worked, does that mean that he would have the capabilities of countering it? Minato's greatest feat. is his speed. It should not be taken lightly. Minato was feared because he could kill a whole platoon by myself in a few seconds. And so what if Minato has no experience in fighting other Uchihas like Itachi? I'm sure Naruto never fought an Uzumaki with a ****ing Rinnegan like Nagato's but look what happened? Naruto won! Your fanboy brain is clouding your brain. Either that or you dont even have a brain.

What do you mean by saying this?

We just can't decide who was the stronger, as they both were intelligent, fast and genius. Let's not compare them. Think how awesome it was if they would team up.

 

[BazzBee]

:sasuke:gets Didn't read

 

[Yuffosan]

What do you mean by saying this?

We just can't decide who was the stronger, as they both were intelligent, fast and genius. Let's not compare them. Think how awesome it was if they would team up.

What I meant in that post was obvious. And I never decided who was stronger. I was just merely telling the fanboy that HE CAN'T just decide who's stronger. I just tried to put Minato and Itachi on equal grounds seeing as the fanboy failed to mention his feats.

 

[chintu234]

i didn't ask you to reply but thanks for wasting my 10 minutes to read it. minato has no experience in fighting the uchihas like itachi, he has not seen the susanoo and he doesn't know how to counter tsukyomi so he doesn't know thier abilities. and if kakashi and even sakura was able to figure out the ability of warping objects into other dimension then obviously itachi would have figured it out too and then thought of some way to counter it.

how will itachi counter tobi's S/T tech??
minato could do it coz he also had s/t tech
i dont know how itachi will counter it?
and as for minato never fought a uchiha u r wrong minato had a uchiha as his student he would defently know how expert are uchiha's in genjutsu and he would made some counter for it if he ever came in contact with any uchiha or a genjutsu type person he was a hokage and i knw a lil that every kage in konoha has some or the other counters for genjutsu
minato has sensor tech too so he can predict when itachi is gonna do some tech like nagato did but in a low scale
minato also has his arsenal of sealing techs from the uzumaki's he will surely have counters for susanoo or he could use the s/t barrier which he used to stop 3rd hokage from interfering in his match and s/t barrier is one of the best barriers in narutoverse
he also can reverse itachi's tutsuka blade by using the same tech he used against 9 tails ttb against the village

 

[Noobastank]

bro..you said it was worth reading...lol

OMFG this^. Feel like i got suckered into this thread

 

[Dissonant Values]

OMFG this^. Feel like i got suckered into this thread

And the best part is you'll never get that part of your life back.

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[roncato]

I agree with Yuffosan, you better do not discuss who is stronger, and stop comparing their abilities. Just wait upcoming manga.. ;s

 

[Jukain]

Really..When you compared these 3 together.. Itachi, Nagato and Minato, it became such a bs.

You shouldn't have done it. However, I liked all these facts about Itachi, that he's smart, a genius, etc. As we already saw in Naruto Shippuuden series Itachi is stronger than Nagato, but you cant compare Itachi with Minato and Minato with Nagato. We will never know who would be the stronger, as we aren't this anime's creators.

Itachi was proven to be stronger than Nagato? Please go somewhere with that bullcrap. Kishi already stated that Nagato was the most powerful of the akatsuki which includes Itachi smart one. Seriously Itachi does not stand much of a chance against Nagato, he has no counter to CT chou shinra tensei or pull in and soul rip. I cant belive there are still idiots out there who think that Itachi is stronger than Nagato.
And if your basing it off of when Nagato was sealed, it was only due to the help of Bee and Naruto two powerful jins. Itachi alone would get destroyed, crippled orr not.
And if this fight was a healthy Nagato Itachi would stand no chance at all.

 

[Dissonant Values]

Itachi was proven to be stronger than Nagato? Please go somewhere with that bullcrap. Kishi already stated that Nagato was the most powerful of the akatsuki which includes Itachi smart one. Seriously Itachi does not stand much of a chance against Nagato, he has no counter to CT chou shinra tensei or pull in and soul rip. I cant belive there are still idiots out there who think that Itachi is stronger than Nagato.
And if your basing it off of when Nagato was sealed, it was only due to the help of Bee and Naruto two powerful jins. Itachi alone would get destroyed, crippled orr not.
And if this fight was a healthy Nagato Itachi would stand no chance at all.

Exactly this. Nagato with full mobility literally rips Itachi apart, low diff. Heck even when Itachi seals Edo Nagato, it's because he's stationary.