Itachi's real age.

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yea ur right sorry. either case i dont when he joined anbu.

Okay so far we have this run down:

1)Itachi was 4 during fox attack (Sasuke and Naruto are Born) - Fact.

2)Itachi was 13 when captain of Anbu (Sasuke and Naruto are 9) - Fact.

3)Itachi Masscured clan and meet Tobi at the age 14 - Approx (Sasuke and Naruto are 10)

4)Itachi joined Absuski and meet Orocihmaru at the age 15/16 - Approx (Sasuke and Naruto are 11)

5)Itachi in part 1 span from 17-18 (Sasuke and Naruto are 12-13 ) -Fact.

6)Itachi died in part 2 at the age 21 (Sasuke and Naruto are 16 ) - Fact.
:D that sounds much better than 11! and logical. This dude that made the 11 thread is wrong and is too prideful to back down!
 

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Why is itachi joining absuki before he killed his clan? The manga doesnt imply this IN ANYWAY.

Tobi told is he joined after he killed his clan and orocihmaru also said mentioned this on his first day joining the absuki.

So no more about this 11 crap. Between 13-16 thats it and if notice the drawning style used on itachi u would notcie hes in his teens when we see in absuki and with orocihmaru.

jesus christ , i already explained everything , IN my main post, and in some posts in this very thread, can you please read then post?


The manga doesnt imply this IN ANYWAY.


read plz
 

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:D that sounds much better than 11! and logical. This dude that made the 11 thread is wrong and is too prideful to back down!

It doesn't matter what sounds logical to you...Sasori and Kisame both said orochimaru left when Itachi was 11, which means Itachi was involved with akatsuki before the massacre

Itachi Uchiha apparently joined before carrying out the Uchiha clan massacre for which he defected from Konohagakure, though his membership seems to have come with the stipulation that Akatsuki could make no direct movements against Konoha. When Itachi joined, Orochimaru attempted to steal his body in order to gain the Sharingan. This failed and he was forced to defect.


It means while itachi was in anbu, danzo must have given him a mission to keep tabs on akatsuki, (yes he knew about akatsuki because he fought with hanzo against nagato and the old akatsuki members) , At that time it was common knowledge to the hokage,elders, and some members of anbu that the uchiha were planning the coup de tat, Itachi must have found Tobi and asked him for his help in killing the clan, It wasn't even asking for help, as tobi said it was a Ultimatum, he would HAVE to put him in akatsuki , not attack konoha and help him kill the clan, or he would reveal to the world he was alive.......The third hokage tried to negotiate with the uchiha and that failed........Then that night tobi and itachi killed the clan, He then fully joined akatsuki, secretly a double agent for Konoha

What i think you guys are getting confused about is this, You seem to think
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Occured when itachi was 13, that's not neccersarily the case....Him meeting tobi could have occured anytime between 11-13, The entire coup detat Planning, Third hokage reconciliation process could NOT have happened in 1 month....When they found out about uchiha's coup de tat, Itachi was most likely 11, Itachi got a mission to watch akatsuki ,and another mission to wipe out his clan, He found tobi in akatsuki, gave him that ultimatum , And MADE tobi put him in akatsuki so he could watch it from within, He reported everything to danzo at that point , 1 Year later, the Third hokage, tried reconcilliation with the uchiha, Itachi trained, Somewhere in this timeframe, he told Shishui about the mission he had to do, Age 13 , Itachi is promoted to anbu captain , Shishui knows about itachi's mission and that he's going to die soon, Danzo comes and takes 1 of his eyes, Shishui gives itachi the other , Shishui then kills himself, Itachi unlocks Mangekyou sharingan, Some time later down the year....Yes it had to be later down the year, because there is a period of time where itachi was still in the anbu, and had mangekyou sharingan, Danzo stated "Amaterasu huh, You are indeed itachi's brother"
Also "Your tsukyomi and itachi's are worlds apart"
So danzo DID see what itachi's mangekyou abilities were capable of..
Some time Down that same year, Tobi and itachi meet up and begin the extermination of the uchiha clan, Itachi fully joins as a actual member seeing as he had nowhere else to go,

 
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You're definitely wrong. All the logical people will believe me. I don't believe I said that. All I said was that I don't believe he was a member of the Akatsuki before killing Uchiha. I also even said that when he fought Orochimaru he was a member not just "involved". Meaning even if he was involved, he was a full member when he beat Orochimaru. Meaning he wasn't 11.


yeah itachi was involved in the akatsuki before the uchiha clan masacre because he asked tobi's help thats why he got involved. and after the clan masacre he joined akatsuki. yup itachi was not 11 when he fought orochimaru
 
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in the anime, itachi joins akatsuki after the massacre and if he was approx 13 when he massacred, minimum age for him to join akatsuki is 13 right? correct me if i am wrong
 

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jesus christ , i already explained everything , IN my main post, and in some posts in this very thread, can you please read then post?






read plz
Fundalmental flaw in this theory.

First page is from part 1 of manga.

Sasari's age - 7 = Sasari's age of Last time orocihmaru was him and absuki had a meeting. U assumed Itachi was in absuki 7 years ago present in the previous meeting.But this has nothing do with itachi as Orocihmaru&Sasori were in the absuki long before itachi as they both met him at the same time therefore this statement of members meeting up doesnt include itachi.

For example when Pain said its been years since orocihmaru left does that also mean tobi(who was also in the room) was in absuki 10 years ago.

Do u see the fault in ur logic now?

2nd page,

All that tells us that since Orocihmaru was 55 in part 2 that means he left absuiki when he was at the age of 45. This is the same infomation as above but this is in part 2 therefore 7 + 3 years is the 10 years Pain is talking about (part 1 to 2 timeskip).

Again this gives u no relationship of with itachi.

U need to understand a few points as Know I undrstand why ur obessed with this.


1) Sasori and Orochimaru were in absuki for some time before itachi joined this was shown in part 2. So any conversion of sarori ramenshing of the times dont include itachi has hes a new member. As believe it or not absuiki has been operating before itachi joined for some time.

2) We know itachi joined absuki after he wiped out the clan and meet tobi. And this happened no eariler than when he was 13 years old.

3) Ive wasted too much time already on this,


And ill sum up Itachi meet orocihmaru between the ages 13-16
 
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I was reading the thread about Owarij and he says Itachi was 11 when he beat Orochimaru, I assure you he is wrong. I have worked with Kishimoto and done many databooks etc. But no matter what I did I am nothing on this site so I will go ahead and explain completely why he is wrong.

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Kakashi himself says Itachi was still with the leaf village at age 13.

Also the only reason he didn't use MS on Orochimaru was because he did not need to. Not because he was 11 and could not use it.

Proof #2- Also the databooks have it that Sasuke Uchiha was 7-8 at the annihilation of the clan right? Now Sasuke was 12 years old when Itachi visited. Do the math

12-8= 4

Means he came only 4 years after the clan was assassinated, am I correct? Even if Sasuke was 7 than it means it has been like 5 years.

Now you claim that Itachi was 11 when the clan was massacred right?

11+4= 15
11+5= 16

So you are saying that Itachi was 15-16 when he visited in part 1, 4 years later when actually he was 17-18. So are you disagreeing with the data books?

Yes you are because we just found out that Itachi visited 4-5 years from the clan massacre due to Sasuke's age meaning you are saying Itachi was like 15 when he visited if he was 11 when the clan got massacred. When databooks say you are wrong, he was like 18 when he visited.

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In this they are referring to how they met up last time that was 7 years ago. They should of made it more clear saying "we did this 7 years ago when Orochimaru was still around, before Orochimaru left". Unless this manga is in part 2 (I believe it is not), Orochimaru was still around 7 years ago. I have already discussed when Orochimaru left with Kishimoto.

So now Owarij says that this whole thing is point less^^ because Itachi could of been involved before he murdered the clan.

This is wrong because the Akatsuki have always been taking only S rank criminals. Not 11 year old children.

There is no way they would accept some 11 year old and trust him, partner them up with one of their most powerful members and also give him the uniform and everything.

Also look at his height, you can tell he was not 11 and even by his looks.

He was a member of the Akatsuki and had already joined. There is no way he was a member at age 11! Also Owarij also said that this is how he found out mask man=Madara because he learned he was the leader.

This is wrong, no one knew about Tobi at all at the time, Tobi wasn't even recognized as a member to the other Akatsuki until Sasori died. So there is no way some 11 year old kid with no S rank crime came and found everything out and also its common sense and Kishimoto would of stated that Itachi was "involved" before.

Proof #3-

Meanwhile the manga only states he joined the Akatsuki After he killed the Uchiha clan and became an S-rank criminal.

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So I give Owarij credit for pointing out somewhat of an error but I still think he is Wayyyyy to stubborn and stills believes he is right, however-

Please do not hate on me, I already admitted I am not Kishimoto however have done some work with him. I have given you guys proof to help clear things out for you. My work here is done.

All the best :D
I believe you. I don't counter the creator of Naruto. :worshippy:
 
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Basic math bro, Kisame and sasori both said itachi was 11 when orochimaru left

Oh thats weird, Look what wikipedia said
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Look at his height? 11 12 and 13 year old itachi all had the same height....and facial features, i provided proof in the other thread, Akatsuki weren't always accepting s rank criminals....The original akatsuki nagato made was a gang of anyone....There were many akatsuki members before the group we know today...Kakuzu killed all his previous partners, Which is why nagato put him with hidan, someone he can't kill
This is very convincing. Owarij really is brilliant. I'm getting doubtful of whom to believe.
 
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itachi must had died on the age of 25 and 26, he became the anbu leader at 13, we kill the uchiha probaly on is 16, return to leaf 5/6 years past so 21/22 max ,past 3 since sasuke join orochimaru so 25 i said
 
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I reread the story of Itachi and sasuke at first I thought it was all one time period but obviously it skips around so he became a chuunin at the age of 10 and around the same time joined the anbu it never mentions him being the captain in Sasukes memories but we learned in his fight with Kakashi he was 13 when he became the captain the story simply goes straight to him killing the clan so I can only guess a large time span was skipped. Anyways we can only guess how old he was when he joined akatsuki since it doesn't state how old he actually is through the whole manga. However he was a full fledged member when he faced Orochimaru so it was after he killed his clan since he was wearing the akatsuki cloak Tobi never got it until he was accepted into the group.
 

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Where does it say or? So you are telling me they don't know his exact age during part 1 but they do in part 2? Yet they have their exact month and day of birth. You do realise people age right? He was both 17 and 18 in part 1. Either Sasuke was 12 while Itachi was 17, or Sasuke or 13 while Itachi was 18. In the databook it say's Itachi is 18 and Sasuke is 13, 5 year difference.
*sigh* didn't you ever think that sasuke may have just turned 13 and itachi was about to turn 18?

im older then my little brother yet his birthday still comes before mine...
I mean you can't go into the doctor and they ask you how old your are and you tell them 'oh i'll be 18 in a few months' no they need your age at the time.

what I was trying to say was Sasuke could have been 13 and Itachi was about to turn 18
 

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I don't blame him ignorance gets to me too.
but "kishi's" thread was all wrong, you have to read both threads to understand, and believe me, I would have never bothered if he was just saying "oh, itachi was 11". but that isn't the case, you guys should really read it all, this is what the MANGA says, I left this debate because nobody was reading anything, or they didn't understand it, it's easy to tell when somebody isn't reading by their replies.

anyway, you can't argue with someone who doesn't even bother to read the posts, a lot just come straight in and and make their posts. "ignorance" is not knowing something, people in this thread are ignorant of the facts that are shown in the manga because they aren't READING anything.

and when I first saw the other thread, my opinion was objective. I saw it when he first made it, but didn't post until around the 7th-8th page, I wanted to analyze and pick a side first. I only picked it because of the facts that was shown.
 

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I couldn't bother with reading the entire thread but for those who say
"akatsuki would only recruit S rank criminals" I say this
tobi was the leader of akatsuki he could recruit anyone, anytime he wanted



I posted this on the other thread and I'm posting it here as well

tobi said that "itachi joined anbu on fugaku's order"

we all know itachi was at anbu at 10 (mostly 11 he can't be "promoted" as captain right away) which means the coup plan was going for like 3 years
so itachi was "double sided" spy for that 3 years

in the mean time wiping out the clan idea was given by danzo. hiruzen didn't agree and extermination was put on hold. (time run out and it evetually happened)

and itachi knew that he would be forced to exterminate his clan so somehow he found tobi. (at 11)

for 2 years tobi was his mentor and his teacher (itachi said that "he was my mentor, my teacher")

pain had to recruit him since it was tobi's order. even if he was 11


so
itachi met tobi (at 11)
tobi saw the entire uchiha-konoha-itachi thing
so he made a deal with itachi and recruited him in akatsuki (at 11)
tobi had itachi for 2 years while he was in akatsuki

[quick note: right after itachi joined akatsuki orochimaru left. however when kisame was partnered with itachi, itachi was 13] in those two years itachi was an akatsuki member but he wasn't partnered with anyone. he was in konoha (as a member of anbu) but he was meeting with tobi.
he probably wasn't an active member of akatsuki but he was with tobi.
 
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