Itachi's real age.

[Disquiet]

Looked in his teen years

and what about my other question, was deidara an S-Class ninja? an older deidara was defeated by sasuke, that makes me question the younger deidara. sasori or kisame even stated, "why do we need him?" implying that they thought he wasn't on the level, but itachi or sasori said, "because of his explosives" or something like that.

it seems that tobi would have had more of an interest in a kid itachi who was genius even among the uchiha and possessed the sharingan which he seems to covet so much, seeing as he now has an interest in sasuke.

I'd go with an 11 year old itachi rather than that kid deidara

 

[Itachilover94]

he said itachi was 11 when he met up with madara/tobi which I think he was almost right but I think Itachi was 12...I put it up on the last one but I guess i'll do it here too...

"Itachi Uchiha apparently joined Akatsuki before carrying out the Uchiha clan massacre for which he defected from Konohagakure, though his membership seems to have come with the stipulation that Akatsuki could make no direct movements against Konoha. When Itachi joined, Orochimaru attempted to steal his body in order to gain the Sharingan. This failed and he was forced to defect."

"Eight years after the Nine-Tails' attack, Tobi infiltrated Konoha to try to rekindle the flames of war. He was found by Itachi Uchiha first, who convinced Tobi to spare the village in exchange for helping to wipe out the Uchiha clan for deserting him decades earlier. Tobi complied, training Itachi and providing assistance."

this means that itachi had to be like 4 when the nine-tails attacked because 4+8=12. so itachi was 12 when he joined akatsuki which gave tobi time to train him before they took off to kill his clan. if he was 13 already it would have only left them a few weeks or days to train. so he was 13 when he became anbu captin but you still have to remember he was already in anbu at the age of 10. so I think at the age of 12 Itachi had to spy on his clan while doing so he got the mission to kill them. he tried to find a way for the 3rd to change his mind but couldn't. so not having any other option he found madara, joined akatsuki and began to train. when he turned 13 he became captin and as soon as he did he took out his clan and left the leaf

if you add up the years it works
for Itachi:
4 (years old)+8 (years after the fox attack)=12(his age then)

13(how old he was when he killed his clan) + 4(when he met back up with sasuke)=17

for sasuke:
17(itachi in part 1)-13(sasuke in part 1)= 4(how many years older itachi is)

13(when itachi killed his can) -4(how many years older itachi is)= 9(how old sasuke had to be when his clan died)

9(sasuke younger) + 4(when they met back up)= 13(sasukes age in part 1)

itachi was 4 when sasuke was born
itachi was 12 when he met up with madara and sasuke was 8
itachi was 13 when he killed his clan and sasuke was 9
itachi was17 in part 1 and sasuke was 13

I forgot to add that the line on his headband came after he killed his clan so itachi must have scared oro off after all of that. so when he met up with madar/tobi he said that he would join if madara stayed away from the leaf...not only that but itachi looked like he was in a pissed off mood when Oro tried to take his body so that might have been after the clan died and he was taking out his pain and anger on Oro

 

[Owarij]

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"In this world , there exists kids younger than you , yet stronger than me"
Itachi was one of those kids , Thats why Akatsuki would let him in

 

[kingkwong]

Plot no Jutsu

 

[natssuu]

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"In this world , there exists kids younger than you , yet stronger than me"
Itachi was one of those kids , Thats why Akatsuki would let him in

Also you have to abandon your village, Itachi didn't if he joined Akatsuki when he was 11 years old.

 

[Masashi Kishi]

"I assure you he is wrong. I have worked with Kishimoto and done many databooks etc."

Then what was the point of stating you work with Kishi if you don't even know the chapter well? You said you assure us he is wrong, but wasn't able to prove anything. There was no need in saying you work for him, noone would take it into consideration or even believe it without proof.

I still assure you. I have written databooks stuff but not manga chapter. Only Kishimoto. He never mentioned this to me.

Narutopedia can be edited by anyone. Never go there for hard facts. Just use the Manga or databooks or Kishi saying it him self. Anyone who works for Kishi should know that Narutopedia isn't 100% fact.

Yea but they take off wrong edits very fast.

However look at this

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While he was a member of Akatsuki, Itachi was approached by Orochimaru, who tried to steal his body to gain the Sharingan. Itachi trapped him in a genjutsu and severed his left hand as punishment, forcing Orochimaru to flee the organisation.

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It was around this time that Itachi joined Akatsuki after conducting the Uchiha clan massacre. Orochimaru saw his opportunity to gain possession of the Sharingan, and soon Orochimaru made his attempt to steal Itachi's body. Orochimaru tried to use his Living Corpse Reincarnation, but Itachi used his Sharingan to reverse it and cut off Orochimaru's left hand to prevent him from breaking the genjutsu, causing him to leave Akatsuki to acquire a new body.[8] For Orochimaru's defection, Sasori developed a grudge, and sent a brainwashed Kabuto Yakushi to spy on him, however, Orochimaru undid the brainwashing and Kabuto became the loyal right-hand man of Orochimaru.

Even Narutopedia says that he fought Orochimaru after killing the Uchiha.

 

[iSpeak]

I still assure you. I have written databooks stuff but not manga chapter. Only Kishimoto. He never mentioned this to me.

Assure -Tell someone something positively or confidently to dispel any doubts they may have

Do not assure someone that somebody else is wrong if you are not even sure yourself. Maybe you do work for Kishi, but don't use that as an excuse to think that you are right 100% of the time.

 

[Itachilover94]

*sighs* if what I wrote was too long then just read this part and tell me if the math adds up

for Itachi:
4 (itachi's age sasuke just born)+8 (years after the fox attack)=12(his age then)

13(how old he was when he killed his clan) + 4(when he met back up with sasuke)=17 (itachi's age in part 1)

for sasuke:
17(itachi in part 1)-13(sasuke in part 1)= 4(how many years older itachi is)

13(when itachi killed his can) -4(how many years older itachi is)= 9(how old sasuke had to be when his clan died)

9(sasuke younger) + 4(when they met back up)= 13(sasukes age in part 1)

itachi was 4 when sasuke was born
itachi was 12 when he met up with madara and sasuke was 8
itachi was 13 when he killed his clan and sasuke was 9
itachi was17 in part 1 and sasuke was 13

 

[Owarij]

I still assure you. I have written databooks stuff but not manga chapter. Only Kishimoto. He never mentioned this to me.



Yea but they take off wrong edits very fast.

However look at this

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Even Narutopedia says that he fought Orochimaru after killing the Uchiha.

Why are you quoting narutopedia like its all fact? THE very narutopedia you hold so dare said Itachi joined before committing the uchiha massacre

. Itachi Uchiha apparently joined before carrying out the Uchiha clan massacre for which he defected from Konohagakure, though his membership seems to have come with the stipulation that Akatsuki could make no direct movements against Konoha. When Itachi joined, Orochimaru attempted to steal his body in order to gain the Sharingan. This failed and he was forced to defect. Deidara was recruited to replace Orochimaru as Sasori's partner, but because Orochimaru took his Akatsuki ring with him he could not also replace Orochimaru's position. Akatsuki also captured two tailed beasts before Part II, which in the anime are indicated to have been the Five-Tails and the Seven-Tails.

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[Disquiet]

you're messing yourself up, you first said you were his assistant, and that there was no way that itachi was even involved with the uchiha, you said you knew this, but now narutopedia said itachi was "involved" with akaktsui, and now you acknowledge narutopedia but point out what suits you while ignoring or "taking back" what you said earlier.

and yet, you spoke with boldly.

you buried yourself, no one can believe anything you think you know.

 

[Masashi Kishi]

Assure -Tell someone something positively or confidently to dispel any doubts they may have

Do not assure someone that somebody else is wrong if you are not even sure yourself. Maybe you do work for Kishi, but don't use that as an excuse to think that you are right 100% of the time.

I do not believe I am right all the time. That is why I even admit I will check on this narutopedia thing he brought up. But I just proved that Narutopedia also said Orochimaru fought Itachi after the Uchiha massacre. Meaning I was still right. However I gave him credit and I think I shouldn't have used the word assure but however I was still right but no I will not always be right and I don't believe I always am.

 

[Masashi Kishi]

you're messing yourself up, you first said you were his assistant, and that there was no way that itachi was even involved with the uchiha, you said you knew this, but now narutopedia said itachi was "involved" with akaktsui, and now you acknowledge narutopedia but point out suits you while ignoring or "taking back" what you said earlier.

and yet, you spoke with so boldly.

you buried yourself, no one can believe anything you think you know.

You're definitely wrong. All the logical people will believe me. I don't believe I said that. All I said was that I don't believe he was a member of the Akatsuki before killing Uchiha. I also even said that when he fought Orochimaru he was a member not just "involved". Meaning even if he was involved, he was a full member when he beat Orochimaru. Meaning he wasn't 11.

 

[iSpeak]

I do not believe I am right all the time. That is why I even admit I will check on this narutopedia thing he brought up. But I just proved that Narutopedia also said Orochimaru fought Itachi after the Uchiha massacre. Meaning I was still right. However I gave him credit and I think I shouldn't have used the word assure but however I was still right but no I will not always be right and I don't believe I always am.

Ok cool. But anybody who works for Kishi would know not to quote Narutopedia for facts. Even people who don't work for him know not to do that. Not doubting you work for him though.

 

[Masashi Kishi]

Why are you quoting narutopedia like its all fact? THE very narutopedia you hold so dare said Itachi joined before committing the uchiha massacre

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It isn't all fact. You quoted it while I quoted Tobi from the manga saying he joined after killing the clan.

See the confusion?

Manga>wiki

 

[Masashi Kishi]

Ok cool. But anybody who works for Kishi would know not to quote Narutopedia for facts. Even people who don't work for him know not to do that. Not doubting you work for him though.

i quoted the manga at first when Tobi said he came to Akatsuki after killing the clan.

He quoted the wiki to prove me wrong, I just quoted it right back.

 

[Disquiet]

You're definitely wrong. All the logical people will believe me. I don't believe I said that. All I said was that I don't believe he was a member of the Akatsuki before killing Uchiha. I also even said that when he fought Orochimaru he was a member not just "involved". Meaning even if he was involved, he was a full member when he beat Orochimaru. Meaning he wasn't 11.

I was reading the thread about Owarij and he says Itachi was 11 when he beat Orochimaru, I assure you he is wrong. I have worked with Kishimoto and done many databooks etc. But no matter what I did I am nothing on this site so I will go ahead and explain completely why he is wrong.

Proof #1-



Kakashi himself says Itachi was still with the leaf village at age 13.

Also the only reason he didn't use MS on Orochimaru was because he did not need to. Not because he was 11 and could not use it.

Proof #2- Also the databooks have it that Sasuke Uchiha was 7-8 at the annihilation of the clan right? Now Sasuke was 12 years old when Itachi visited. Do the math

12-8= 4

Means he came only 4 years after the clan was assassinated, am I correct? Even if Sasuke was 7 than it means it has been like 5 years.

Now you claim that Itachi was 11 when the clan was massacred right?

11+4= 15
11+5= 16

So you are saying that Itachi was 15-16 when he visited in part 1, 4 years later when actually he was 17-18. So are you disagreeing with the data books?

Yes you are because we just found out that Itachi visited 4-5 years from the clan massacre due to Sasuke's age meaning you are saying Itachi was like 15 when he visited if he was 11 when the clan got massacred. When databooks say you are wrong, he was like 18 when he visited.



In this they are referring to how they met up last time that was 7 years ago. They should of made it more clear saying "we did this 7 years ago when Orochimaru was still around, before Orochimaru left". Unless this manga is in part 2 (I believe it is not), Orochimaru was still around 7 years ago. I have already discussed when Orochimaru left with Kishimoto.

So now Owarij says that this whole thing is point less^^ because Itachi could of been involved before he murdered the clan.

This is wrong because the Akatsuki have always been taking only S rank criminals. Not 11 year old children.

There is no way they would accept some 11 year old and trust him, partner them up with one of their most powerful members and also give him the uniform and everything.

Also look at his height, you can tell he was not 11 and even by his looks.

He was a member of the Akatsuki and had already joined. There is no way he was "involved" at age 11! Also Owarij also said that this is how he found out mask man=Madara because he learned he was the leader.

This is wrong, no one knew about Tobi at all at the time, Tobi wasn't even recognized as a member to the other Akatsuki until Sasori died. So there is no way some 11 year old kid with no S rank crime came and found everything out and also its common sense and Kishimoto would of stated that Itachi was "involved" before.

Proof #3-

Meanwhile the manga only states he joined the Akatsuki After he killed the Uchiha clan and became an S-rank criminal.



So I give Owarij credit for pointing out somewhat of an error but I still think he is Wayyyyy to stubborn and stills believes he is right, however-

Please do not hate on me, I already admitted I am not Kishimoto however have done some work with him. I have given you guys proof to help clear things out for you. My work here is done.

All the best

 

[MinatoFLASH]

lol at the poll! Guess the base trusts some random low post member more than Owarji

 

[Itachilover94]

well I guess you guys are so wraped up in your fight that no one will even go and look at what I wrote on page 3 #42 and tell me what they think...but oh well bye bye

 

[Owarij]

It isn't all fact. You quoted it while I quoted Tobi from the manga saying he joined after killing the clan.

See the confusion?

Manga>wiki

I said involved, see the confusion?
Manga said he was 11 years
TWICE
part 1 and part 2...which means like tobi he wasn't a official member...

 

[iSpeak]

well I guess you guys are so wraped up in your fight that no one will even go and look at what I wrote on page 3 #42 and tell me what they think...but oh well bye bye

What was you proving? that Itachi was or wasnt afilliated with the Akatsuki when he was 11?