uchiha plans a coup d'etat which will entually turn into an all out war
no it wont. fugaku planned a rebellion with a few of his loyal clan members. most of the clan wasnt involved. sasuke didnt know about it and hes the son of the leader.
lol at anyone defending the uchiha clans evil plan to take over the vilage.
is rebellion more evil than genocide? if so your the one whos evil and has his morals all screwed.
fugaku loved and wanted to protect his clan and sasuke. mikoto explains it to sasuke. itachi was too distant to be trusted with the plan so he was made a spy who could tell them the location of the elders and help fugaku plan it out. if they attacked at night, it would be a bloodless coup and better for everyone. if itachi really wanted to avoid a war, why not kill all the senju and elders and have uchihas rule the village? itachi had no plans for peace like hashirama and nagato did. he just did things on a whim and then stopped doing anything. itachi helped akatsuki kill innocent jinchurikis, didnt kill orochimaru, didnt kill tobi, tried to kill kakashi etc.
was what fugaku doing really that evil? the village was worse than the clan. two world wars and a kyuubi attack had happened right under their nose. they regularly get kids killed in the chunin exams. they send kids to do their dirty work to pay for the fire country. after the kyuubi attack, the uchihas were cut off from the rest of the village and blamed for somethign they didnt do. its tragically tobis fault the rebellion was going to happen, and even then it didnt happen. itachi killed everyone for doing NOTHING.
those so called innocent women do nothing to stop this.
THEY DIDNT KNOW. the rebellion was very secret and organised. mikoto said fugakus trying to protect his clan, not get them killed in a war. the rebellion would have happened in a surprise attack, like when the praetorians snuck into the palace and killed caligula or when zabuza attempted to kill yagura. and when madara took on the whole village by himself, that didnt lead to a world war, hashirama giving them all bijuus did.
they didn't and that makes them "helping to a crime"
so not betraying your clan means your evil but betraying your clan means your a hero. gotcha.
itachi killed everyone but do you think he did it with pleasure?
yes. he is power hungry and pure evil. he had good intentions ONCE but for the rest of his life, he helped the bad guys and tortured the good guys like kakashi and sasuke. gaara DIED because itachis clone got in the way of naruto and the others. so itachi killed gaara. itachi didnt kill orochimaru even though he cut off his arm and had a perfect shot to get him with totsuka. but he didnt, and this led to the deaths of countless innocents, third hokage and gaaras father. their deaths are on itachis head. and how can you say itachis not power hungry? no one gets that strong, while not meaning to. itachi attained the totsuka sword cos he wanted more power. can you deny it? and can you deny he didnt even try to beg for the life of his lover and mother? its a bit hard for fugaku to start a world war with no followers so itachi should have just killed those actually involved and willing to fight. but no he killed everyone and had no real reason for it. have you ever seen a rebellion by women and children, ninjas though they may be? no. so itachi killed them cos he felt like it. and thats the only explanation.
he tortured sasuke why?
becuase sasuke needed to become stronger and for that he needed a motive that's why itachi did it
sasuke would have gotten stronger regardless. hes an uchiha. power boils in his veins. what itachi could have said was this.
"sasuke. im sorry. this guy madara killed everyone and i need to leave and join him in akatsuki so i can protect you and prevent this from ever happening again. live only to help me sasuke. get stronger. find friends and stick with them. live your life to its fullest and never look back. live..with the will of fire. i love you. goodbye"
what do we actually get?
"RAWR I KILLED EVERYONE FOR THE EVULS. HATE ME HATE ME WITH ALL YOUR GUTS! GET STRONGER COS YOUR NOT EVEN WORTH KILLING AND I WANT A WORTHY OPPONENT! UNNECESSARY TORTURE NO JUTSU! RAWR KILL YOUR BEST FRIEND FOR NO REAL REASON! YOU SUCK SASUKE! BAHAHAHAAH!
both are lies and both achieve the same goal of sasuke being stronger. which in your opinion would have worked better and made sure sasuke stayed loyal to konoha and become a hero?
and actually I would prefer if he had just killed sasuke as well. thus saving the world from some trouble
if he wanted that,he should have killed himself so that he wouldnt go on to come back to konoha and torture his brother again and put him in a coma.
what else can he do to stop the uchiha tell me?
1. a rebellion cant happen without its members so kill the ringleaders and leave fugaku alive but imprisoned.
2. turn in the rebels and catch them in genjutsu, then put them in prison to have a fair trial.
3. koto amatsuki fugaku into stopping the plans.
4. koto amatsuki the third hokage and have him step down, giving uchihas a ruling seat and more rights which is what they wanted.
5. convince third hokage to step down and give in to uchiha demands, whatever they are and kill danzo.
6. kill everyone but blame it all on madara, who did help after all and focus hate on him.
So Itachi Is evil for Killing his Family and friends, and by doing so saved Countless other Familys.
yes he is evil because he did this needlessly. fugaku was only trying to protect his clan. he loved his family and wouldnt lead them to their deaths. if itachi had not informed the elders of fugakus plan, it would have gone off without a hitch, and danzo would be killed by itachi. meaning no oro experiments, no oro invasion and no plan to overthrow tsunade. itachi put everyone in danger since now the elders had time to prepare and the element of surprise was lost. also this rebellion wouldnt even happen if the uchihas werent blamed for the kyuubi attack. all itachi needed to do was use shisuis eye a bit. was it so hard?
Itachi didn't just Save the Leaf, He saves the Whole fire country From war.
no he tried to cause a war by ruining the element of surprise. itachi is as bad as anakin skywalker. anakin also murdered jedi women and children to stop a "rebellion" at the orders of an evil old man clearly plotting his own takeover. so itachi is the darth vader of naruto. and like anakin,he didnt atone for this, he just kept doing evil crap for no reason. kakashi would be dead and itachis word would be responsible but gai arrived in time. the fire country was thrust into war by orochimarus plan which wouldnt have happened if not for itachi letting him live when he could have killed him easily. itachi knew oro was power hungry and wanted to attack konoha so theres no excuse.
Do you really think the uchiha clan would of been So kind if they Started the War?,
yes. the last thing fugaku wants is to make this difficult for his clan and lead them to their deaths. he wasnt gonna start a full scale war, thats not what a coup de'at is.
Tobi told the same story to Naruto, and naruto confirmed that Story with Itachi (edo).
naruto asked itachi if it was true they plotted a rebellion. itachi says "so madara knew about me".
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he doesnt even outright confirm it.
Also the lesser Evil is what Itachi did.
no it isnt. a secret rebellion by a few members of the clan is a lesser evil than mass genocide of people who knew nothing about it.
If itachi did nothing and let the uchiha slaughter who ever got in their way
itachi wouldnt "do nothing". he could have used shisuis eye to control the third and let the uchihas take over bloodlessly while helping them out. the last thing fugaku wanted was his sons getting hurt. hes not a villain as you all are so desperate to believe. we all saw his personality. he didnt show it but he loved sasuke immensely and wanted him to follow his own path, not his brother's.
Let a War start so many more countless will die.
then konoha will get what they deserved. you heard nagato. konoha started wars to get funding for the fire country and the rain village paid for it. the third was a corrupt hokage who let two world wars happen under his nose rather than keeping konoha out of it.
itachi did what he had to to.
sacrifical of his own clan to save the world from war.
the world was not at risk. the 5 kages arent evil pricks with an army just waiting to invade at the first opportunity. konoha lost most of its military power through the oro invasion, kyuubi attack and pain invasion yet no one invaded. not even the loss of the yellow flash and the god of shinobi convinced anyone to attack konoha. pain would have fought a full strength konoha regardless so yeah. what itachi did was evil and needless. no one forced him to massacre innocents and he could have captured and imprisoned the ringleaders with genjutsu but chose to take the serial killer way.
no one forced itachi to refuse to use shisuis eye. itachi isnt above brainwashing people to get them to do what he wants as he planned on doing it to sasuke.
sasuke was the youngest clan member in the village at the time.
dont just pull stuff out of your ass. where is the evidence for this? also how do you know he was the only one under 18?