Itachi's motive?

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Good point actually, but it wouldn't bug me if I actually saw him mourn his fellow Uchiha, Sasuke seems to be the only one he cared about, but maybe he just can't feel anything after having to kill his clan? I just wish I could see some kind of introspection of Itachi or else it almost seems like he did it roboticly. :shrug:
while doing it he probably did it roboticly. if he were to let his emotions get to him he couldn't finish what he started.
but he never forget what he did. he was crying after he left sasuke and he probably become cold after that incident (kisame kept saying how cold itachi was)
he shouldered what he's done all his life and probably that's why he was smiling while he was dying. finally feeling that he paid what he's done
 

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yea i rather not look like an idiot trying to be kakashi, you be trying to use chidori, i read the manga, but ur pushing and alot of other peole push, dressing up like them and everything, that just say you need a life, im not that geeky
Trying to be kakashi? Kakashi has white hair, I have black hair. Kakashi covers 1 eye, I don't. You make no sence. Also, that sign is not Chidori. Get some logic. You start shit with people, don't expect them to stand and take it kid.

People enjoy storylines, non of your bussiness if we discuss it from the perspective of characters.

Who are you to tell us to get a life?
 

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Itachi did what he had to.

Itachi's motive was to save thousands more lives by sacrificing a handful.

Tobi says it him self. Its not only konoha that would of been affected by the uchiha rebelled, It would be the whole Fire country.

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Itachi did what he had to.

Itachi's motive was to save thousands more lives by sacrificing a handful.

Tobi says it him self. Its not only konoha that would of been affected by the uchiha rebelled, It would be the whole Fire country.

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THIS but the haters just won't admit it
 

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Trying to be kakashi? Kakashi has white hair, I have black hair. Kakashi covers 1 eye, I don't. You make no sence. Also, that sign is not Chidori. Get some logic. You start shit with people, don't expect them to stand and take it kid.

People enjoy storylines, non of your bussiness if we discuss it from the perspective of characters.

Who are you to tell us to get a life?
i have a life, i dont run around pretending to be something that dont exist.
 

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I dont get why Itachi wouldnt just sit the Uchihas down and say "hi guys...erm listen if you dont cut the crap....well your all going to get minced....so...ye...have a good think...and get back to me...alright" i mean...wouldnt the "greater good" be to spare as many lives as possible? Instead of going ape all over his family :S just a though
itachi is an evil *******.

Itachi was a pacisifist who hated war
wrong. if that were the case he wouldnt have a jutsu specifically designed for brutally torturing people needlessly. if that were the case he wouldnt slaughter innocent women and children, which really is a declaration of war on sasuke and konoha in of itself. even if the war is itachi vs konoha and not uchiha vs konoha, its still war. itachi apparently forgot he can CONTROL PEOPLES MINDS.
he was forced to choose between two evils, he chose the lesser evil
how is brutally and mercilessly massacring innocent women and children a lesser evil? wtf was the greater evil? kicking puppies and having *** with infants??

Itachi was different from the rest of the Uchiha Clan, they want power he wants peace
when did fugaku say he wanted power? and itachi wanted power more than anyone in the clan, which is why he has MS and totsuka and they didnt. itachi didnt want peace because true peace doesnt mean slaughtering anyone who wants to have more freedom. the uchihas were segregated and cut off and mistreated by the higher ups. mikoto says its fugakus job to save the clan when they are in trouble, and it was in trouble. if itachi really was a nice guy who wanted peace, he wouldnt have mercilessly slaughtered people just because they wanted to rule the village instead of sarutobi. why not just let them have it? rebellions happen for many reasons and most arent prevented by killing people who had nothing to do with it. like when spartacus rebelled, only those who fought with him were crucified, not every single member of their families and small children and old women. itachi is actually more evil and despicable than the roman empire!

Sasuke could have been Itachi v2 but hatred turned him into some douchebag.
i wonder who it was who told sasuke to fill himself with said hatred?

if he were to let anyone live (aside from sasuke because he made arrangements for him) the coup d'etat plot would be revealed and the remaining uchihas would have to be punished.
no it wouldnt. families arent responsible for the actions of their sons, plus it was orders. fugakus the only one who would take responsibility. with the leader dead, all konoha would have to do is give uchihas more power and position to ensure they have no motivation to rebel. it was so easy to do and they couldnt do it. they insisted on genocide. so lesson learned.

if you want to act for what you think is right for your family and relatives by giving them more rights and freedom, dont you dare, because genocide is your village's answer to that.
but if you kill women and children for no reason and torture your own brother, your a hero and deserving of narutos respect.
right. got it.

Itachi's motive was to save thousands more lives by sacrificing a handful.
means doesnt justify the ends. war is a way of life for shinobi. itachi changed it so the conflict wasnt shinobi vs shinobi but himself vs shinobi and all their innocent families and small children. you tell me what the lesser evil is.

Tobi says it him self. Its not only konoha that would of been affected by the uchiha rebelled, It would be the whole Fire country.
so you just want to go ahead and believe someone who cant even tell the truth about who he is?

earning the hate of entire konoha for killing his own people without mercy
exactly. the person who is the most powerful mind control user sees fit to slaughter innocents rather than control their leader. itachis a moron and an evil psycho.
 
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no it wouldnt. families arent responsible for the actions of their sons, plus it was orders. fugakus the only one who would take responsibility. with the leader dead, all konoha would have to do is give uchihas more power and position to ensure they have no motivation to rebel. it was so easy to do and they couldnt do it. they insisted on genocide. so lesson learned.

if you want to act for what you think is right for your family and relatives by giving them more rights and freedom, dont you dare, because genocide is your village's answer to that.
but if you kill women and children for no reason and torture your own brother, your a hero and deserving of narutos respect.
right. got it.
you say they are innocent?
uchiha plans a coup d'etat which will entually turn into an all out war and those so called innocent women do nothing to stop this. if they were innocent they could report that activity to hokage
they didn't and that makes them "helping to a crime"

and you see things just the way you want
itachi killed everyone but do you think he did it with pleasure?


he tortured sasuke why?
becuase sasuke needed to become stronger and for that he needed a motive that's why itachi did it

and actually I would prefer if he had just killed sasuke as well. thus saving the world from some trouble

what else can he do to stop the uchiha tell me?
killing fugaku isn't the answer entire uchiha is behind this
 

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means doesnt justify the ends. war is a way of life for shinobi. itachi changed it so the conflict wasnt shinobi vs shinobi but himself vs shinobi and all their innocent families and small children. you tell me what the lesser evil is.

so you just want to go ahead and believe someone who cant even tell the truth about who he is?
So Itachi Is evil for Killing his Family and friends, and by doing so saved Countless other Familys.

Itachi didn't just Save the Leaf, He saves the Whole fire country From war.

Do you really think the uchiha clan would of been So kind if they Started the War?, No they wouldn't.

And Yes i Do believe Tobi.

Tobi told the same story to Naruto, and naruto confirmed that Story with Itachi (edo).

Also the lesser Evil is what Itachi did. The Greater Evil would of been If itachi did nothing and let the uchiha slaughter who ever got in their way, and Let a War start so many more countless will die.

You seems to know nothing about Itachi or the reasons why he did what he did.
 

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yea i rather not look like an idiot trying to be kakashi, you be trying to use chidori, i read the manga, but ur pushing and alot of other peole push, dressing up like them and everything, that just say you need a life, im not that geeky
That is his problem, not yours, now GET THE **** OUT!
 

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uchiha plans a coup d'etat which will entually turn into an all out war
no it wont. fugaku planned a rebellion with a few of his loyal clan members. most of the clan wasnt involved. sasuke didnt know about it and hes the son of the leader.

lol at anyone defending the uchiha clans evil plan to take over the vilage.
is rebellion more evil than genocide? if so your the one whos evil and has his morals all screwed.
fugaku loved and wanted to protect his clan and sasuke. mikoto explains it to sasuke. itachi was too distant to be trusted with the plan so he was made a spy who could tell them the location of the elders and help fugaku plan it out. if they attacked at night, it would be a bloodless coup and better for everyone. if itachi really wanted to avoid a war, why not kill all the senju and elders and have uchihas rule the village? itachi had no plans for peace like hashirama and nagato did. he just did things on a whim and then stopped doing anything. itachi helped akatsuki kill innocent jinchurikis, didnt kill orochimaru, didnt kill tobi, tried to kill kakashi etc.
was what fugaku doing really that evil? the village was worse than the clan. two world wars and a kyuubi attack had happened right under their nose. they regularly get kids killed in the chunin exams. they send kids to do their dirty work to pay for the fire country. after the kyuubi attack, the uchihas were cut off from the rest of the village and blamed for somethign they didnt do. its tragically tobis fault the rebellion was going to happen, and even then it didnt happen. itachi killed everyone for doing NOTHING.

those so called innocent women do nothing to stop this.
THEY DIDNT KNOW. the rebellion was very secret and organised. mikoto said fugakus trying to protect his clan, not get them killed in a war. the rebellion would have happened in a surprise attack, like when the praetorians snuck into the palace and killed caligula or when zabuza attempted to kill yagura. and when madara took on the whole village by himself, that didnt lead to a world war, hashirama giving them all bijuus did.

they didn't and that makes them "helping to a crime"
so not betraying your clan means your evil but betraying your clan means your a hero. gotcha.

itachi killed everyone but do you think he did it with pleasure?
yes. he is power hungry and pure evil. he had good intentions ONCE but for the rest of his life, he helped the bad guys and tortured the good guys like kakashi and sasuke. gaara DIED because itachis clone got in the way of naruto and the others. so itachi killed gaara. itachi didnt kill orochimaru even though he cut off his arm and had a perfect shot to get him with totsuka. but he didnt, and this led to the deaths of countless innocents, third hokage and gaaras father. their deaths are on itachis head. and how can you say itachis not power hungry? no one gets that strong, while not meaning to. itachi attained the totsuka sword cos he wanted more power. can you deny it? and can you deny he didnt even try to beg for the life of his lover and mother? its a bit hard for fugaku to start a world war with no followers so itachi should have just killed those actually involved and willing to fight. but no he killed everyone and had no real reason for it. have you ever seen a rebellion by women and children, ninjas though they may be? no. so itachi killed them cos he felt like it. and thats the only explanation.

he tortured sasuke why?
becuase sasuke needed to become stronger and for that he needed a motive that's why itachi did it
sasuke would have gotten stronger regardless. hes an uchiha. power boils in his veins. what itachi could have said was this.
"sasuke. im sorry. this guy madara killed everyone and i need to leave and join him in akatsuki so i can protect you and prevent this from ever happening again. live only to help me sasuke. get stronger. find friends and stick with them. live your life to its fullest and never look back. live..with the will of fire. i love you. goodbye"

what do we actually get?
"RAWR I KILLED EVERYONE FOR THE EVULS. HATE ME HATE ME WITH ALL YOUR GUTS! GET STRONGER COS YOUR NOT EVEN WORTH KILLING AND I WANT A WORTHY OPPONENT! UNNECESSARY TORTURE NO JUTSU! RAWR KILL YOUR BEST FRIEND FOR NO REAL REASON! YOU SUCK SASUKE! BAHAHAHAAH!

both are lies and both achieve the same goal of sasuke being stronger. which in your opinion would have worked better and made sure sasuke stayed loyal to konoha and become a hero?

and actually I would prefer if he had just killed sasuke as well. thus saving the world from some trouble
if he wanted that,he should have killed himself so that he wouldnt go on to come back to konoha and torture his brother again and put him in a coma.

what else can he do to stop the uchiha tell me?
1. a rebellion cant happen without its members so kill the ringleaders and leave fugaku alive but imprisoned.
2. turn in the rebels and catch them in genjutsu, then put them in prison to have a fair trial.
3. koto amatsuki fugaku into stopping the plans.
4. koto amatsuki the third hokage and have him step down, giving uchihas a ruling seat and more rights which is what they wanted.
5. convince third hokage to step down and give in to uchiha demands, whatever they are and kill danzo.
6. kill everyone but blame it all on madara, who did help after all and focus hate on him.

So Itachi Is evil for Killing his Family and friends, and by doing so saved Countless other Familys.
yes he is evil because he did this needlessly. fugaku was only trying to protect his clan. he loved his family and wouldnt lead them to their deaths. if itachi had not informed the elders of fugakus plan, it would have gone off without a hitch, and danzo would be killed by itachi. meaning no oro experiments, no oro invasion and no plan to overthrow tsunade. itachi put everyone in danger since now the elders had time to prepare and the element of surprise was lost. also this rebellion wouldnt even happen if the uchihas werent blamed for the kyuubi attack. all itachi needed to do was use shisuis eye a bit. was it so hard?

Itachi didn't just Save the Leaf, He saves the Whole fire country From war.
no he tried to cause a war by ruining the element of surprise. itachi is as bad as anakin skywalker. anakin also murdered jedi women and children to stop a "rebellion" at the orders of an evil old man clearly plotting his own takeover. so itachi is the darth vader of naruto. and like anakin,he didnt atone for this, he just kept doing evil crap for no reason. kakashi would be dead and itachis word would be responsible but gai arrived in time. the fire country was thrust into war by orochimarus plan which wouldnt have happened if not for itachi letting him live when he could have killed him easily. itachi knew oro was power hungry and wanted to attack konoha so theres no excuse.

Do you really think the uchiha clan would of been So kind if they Started the War?,
yes. the last thing fugaku wants is to make this difficult for his clan and lead them to their deaths. he wasnt gonna start a full scale war, thats not what a coup de'at is.

Tobi told the same story to Naruto, and naruto confirmed that Story with Itachi (edo).
naruto asked itachi if it was true they plotted a rebellion. itachi says "so madara knew about me".
he doesnt even outright confirm it.

Also the lesser Evil is what Itachi did.
no it isnt. a secret rebellion by a few members of the clan is a lesser evil than mass genocide of people who knew nothing about it.

If itachi did nothing and let the uchiha slaughter who ever got in their way
itachi wouldnt "do nothing". he could have used shisuis eye to control the third and let the uchihas take over bloodlessly while helping them out. the last thing fugaku wanted was his sons getting hurt. hes not a villain as you all are so desperate to believe. we all saw his personality. he didnt show it but he loved sasuke immensely and wanted him to follow his own path, not his brother's.

Let a War start so many more countless will die.
then konoha will get what they deserved. you heard nagato. konoha started wars to get funding for the fire country and the rain village paid for it. the third was a corrupt hokage who let two world wars happen under his nose rather than keeping konoha out of it.

itachi did what he had to to.
sacrifical of his own clan to save the world from war.
the world was not at risk. the 5 kages arent evil pricks with an army just waiting to invade at the first opportunity. konoha lost most of its military power through the oro invasion, kyuubi attack and pain invasion yet no one invaded. not even the loss of the yellow flash and the god of shinobi convinced anyone to attack konoha. pain would have fought a full strength konoha regardless so yeah. what itachi did was evil and needless. no one forced him to massacre innocents and he could have captured and imprisoned the ringleaders with genjutsu but chose to take the serial killer way.
no one forced itachi to refuse to use shisuis eye. itachi isnt above brainwashing people to get them to do what he wants as he planned on doing it to sasuke.

sasuke was the youngest clan member in the village at the time.
dont just pull stuff out of your ass. where is the evidence for this? also how do you know he was the only one under 18?
 

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He was lying and deceiving Sasuke there, learn to read carefully
tobi has reason to deny his own involvement in the massacre since that means sasuke is coming after him next. but he never did. three sources confirm he was there that night.
 
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