Itachi would kill Kabuto

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It doesn't have to cut a mountain... It's too busy 1 shooting Nagato and Orochimaru 0 effort...

Besides Totsuka is a ethereal weapon and has been Databook and Manga proven to be so.

Itachi has been databook and Manga proven invincibility.

Stop down playing totsuka blade. Kisihi made it the strongest weapon for a reason
Once again that blade means nothing to kabuto..itachi just better be worried about kabuto sound genjutsu.
 

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Manga/Databook > Your opinion

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Also Kabuto better be worried about Yata mirror, Amaterasu, and Izanami
That shield don't guard him from sound genjutsu so he is in trouble no matter what...and when kabuto liquify he go's in the ground plus that sword said nothing about being able to cut down or seal water so what were you trying to show me?
 

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That shield don't guard him from sound genjutsu so he is in trouble no matter what...and when kabuto liquify he go's in the ground plus that sword said nothing about being able to cut down or seal water so what were you trying to show me?
Yata blocks all attacks... Totsuka attacks your soul not your physical body.. Kabuto being water makes it easier for him to be pierced thus GG

@bold Doesn't want to regard the manga and goes off own opinions haha
 

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Totsuka can't stick around all day. Itachi lasts 5 minutes tops if he brings his asthma pump.

In that time there will be a constant barrage of explosions, sound phantom chains, fire style jutsu, particle style, third raikage, golden sand, a stronger susanoo, poison (not even jutsu so good luck yata mirror) dan (who can enter susanoo) zabuza's silent killing mist (obscuring his view) and a constantly changing landscape with Jirobo and Shinra Tensei. Also i'm pretty sure Kabuto himself is able to enter the susanoo from below, dragging Itachi into the ground, disarming susanoo and creating the 1 second opening the edos need. There's no fighting it.

Kabuto can stay aerial and out of range with Deidara and when Itachi has to come up for breath one of these thousand jutsu will get him. Most likely the poison. Itachi can only focus on sealing one edo at a time and have you counted how many members there are in his army? Enough to maintain 5 minutes. And much much more. If you want to unrestrict Itachi then you unrestrict Kabuto too. And that comes with much worse consequences.

Just another ignorant Itachi fanboy trying to start fights whose only argument is clinging onto yata mirror & totsuka blade, nothing new. Itachi can't wield the weapons without susanoo and his unspectacular MS isnt' keeping that around.

Kabuto and Itachi are both awesome. Let. them. die.
 
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That shield don't guard him from sound genjutsu so he is in trouble no matter what...and when kabuto liquify he go's in the ground plus that sword said nothing about being able to cut down or seal water so what were you trying to show me?
Chapter 580 page 5 Itachi clearly is able to open one eye and enough control to activate his Susanoo around Sasuke. Sound Genjutsu na work
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lol what is the argument here?

Logically, Kabuto is stronger than Itachi, Yes Itachi didn't use his spirit weapons yes if Itachi had Yata mirror out, 90 % of Kabuto's attacks would have been meaningless, but Kabuto also didn't utilize his edos didn't he?..( Manda 2 wouldn't help the fight, Itachi would just control it or set it on fire)

However, if they fought 1v1 in the manga given the same situation, Kishimoto wouldn't let Itachi lose the fight.. that's just plot and Itachi's portrayal ..
 

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lol what is the argument here?

Logically, Kabuto is stronger than Itachi, Yes Itachi didn't use his spirit weapons yes if Itachi had Yata mirror out, 90 % of Kabuto's attacks would have been meaningless, but Kabuto also didn't utilize his edos didn't he?..( Manda 2 wouldn't help the fight, Itachi would just control it or set it on fire)

However, if they fought 1v1 in the manga given the same situation, Kishimoto wouldn't let Itachi lose the fight.. that's just plot and Itachi's portrayal ..
There is no argument here, somebodies just trying to stir some sh*t. That's the purpose of the thread.
 

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There is no argument here, somebodies just trying to stir some sh*t. That's the purpose of the thread.
Nope... and you mis understood what he was saying. Based off of abilities and such yes Kabuto is stronger (Not factoring Totsuka and yata) but it's not about abilities it's how you use them. Kabuto used 6+ OP Jutsu in that fight.. Itachi used 1 jutsu.. Guess who won the fight?

If Itachi used Totsuka and Yata kabuto would have been 1 paneled
 

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Not saying edo Itachi can't win though.. the problem with reanimation is their very existence gives them almost no limit on their abilities... for example , Itachi could have made 20 shadow clones of himself, each with Susanno, as Madara did, each susanno having spirit weapon clones, and each clone having amaterasu... At that point.. the battle field would be easily changed in Itachi's favor.. we won't argue that won't we ? But if Kishimoto really wanted Itachi to win that fight alone.. he'd do it.. Instead he wanted the brothers to fight together one last time , save each other in moments of peril and eventually come out on top

People put too much thought in to these things ..what's obvious fact is that Kabuto with his entire edo arsenal would slaughter Itachi, anything else, is debatable
 
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Yata blocks all attacks... Totsuka attacks your soul not your physical body.. Kabuto being water makes it easier for him to be pierced thus GG

@bold Doesn't want to regard the manga and goes off own opinions haha
Um that mirror said nothing about blocking sound attacks go back an read what you posted to me please..no kabuto being water makes it harder to attack him plus he hid in his snakes an itachi could not even tell witch one kabuto was in.

Chapter 580 page 5 Itachi clearly is able to open one eye and enough control to activate his Susanoo around Sasuke. Sound Genjutsu na work
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What? Kabuto did trap him in sound genjutsu and sasuke had to help him get out.
 

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Um that mirror said nothing about blocking sound attacks go back an read what you posted to me please..no kabuto being water makes it harder to attack him plus he hid in his snakes an itachi could not even tell witch one kabuto was in.



What? Kabuto did trap him in sound genjutsu and sasuke had to help him get out.
Blocks ALL attacks... a sound attack falls under ALL attacks right?
 

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An argument can be made that the shield would prevent the sound genjutsu from reaching Itachi.. Seeing that shield itself is Spiritual Liquid, Sound must still utilize a medium to travel.. Most times its air, which is why temari could use her fuuton abilities to blow it away.. other times its solids and liquids.... With the shield , it means the chakra from the genjutsu must go through the shield itself, assuming it has taken a 360 state already.. and then to Itachi.. considering the shield defends itself against attacks, and the incoming enemy chakra is danger to Itachi, I don't see why it wouldn't stop or defend against the chakra itself
 

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Don't try to be a smart ass here , Madara , Obito & Oro already know very well that paths they have chosen , it wouldn't work on any of them .

Nagato is already dead he doesn't count & got soloed by a book .


Edit : And let me get this straight , so when Izanami activated none of what we saw actually happened then ?
People do not understand how Izanami works.


1. The jutsu has to have the prerequisite of being used on someone who is trying to be something they aren't.

Example: Uchiha pulling Izanagi.

Example: Kabuto trying to become everyone but himself.


2. The jutsu works by using the eye to capture a series of real time events. This means these actions ACTUALLY HAPPEN.

3. When the required and/or desired number of image memories are captured and recorded, the user loses his/her (lol why bother since Uchiha women got screwed over) eye, and Izanami activates.


The jutsu only began once Kabuto started replaying the same sequence of events. Up until that time, everything was actually happening.


In short, Izanami acts like a cam-recorder that records for a period of time, and then plays them back continuously disallowing the target to escape until he or she accepts his/her fate.


So every attack on Itachi counted. Since they were kill shots, the Izanami would not have succeeded. Itachi would be dead. Additionally, Edo Itachi had his tag in a position to where Kabuto would have erased it had Sasuke not saved him... Thus meaning right at that moment Kabuto won (in terms of one on one with Kabuto).

This also means moves such as the sound genjutsu, and any other technique used by Kabuto were real and did effect Itachi.
 

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Don't try to be a smart ass here , Madara , Obito & Oro already know very well that paths they have chosen , it wouldn't work on any of them .

Nagato is already dead he doesn't count & got soloed by a book .


Edit : And let me get this straight , so when Izanami activated none of what we saw actually happened then ?
Correction: Obito has not made up the true reason for making a new world
Or is he still fantasizing over Rins death...
The death that he won't accept because he thinks she's fake?

Such a reasonable answer for a war...

Oro has chosen his path after he noticed sasuke didn't repeat his other experiments...

& Madara has accepted his path...
 

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Not saying edo Itachi can't win though.. the problem with reanimation is their very existence gives them almost no limit on their abilities... for example , Itachi could have made 20 shadow clones of himself, each with Susanno, as Madara did, each susanno having spirit weapon clones, and each clone having amaterasu... At that point.. the battle field would be easily changed in Itachi's favor.. we won't argue that won't we ?
As to my understanding of edo tensei, The Edo's are still limited to the same level of chakra they had during life. So unless itachi could do that in life he cannot do that as an edo tensei.
 

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People do not understand how Izanami works.


1. The jutsu has to have the prerequisite of being used on someone who is trying to be something they aren't.

Example: Uchiha pulling Izanagi.

Example: Kabuto trying to become everyone but himself.


2. The jutsu works by using the eye to capture a series of real time events. This means these actions ACTUALLY HAPPEN.

3. When the required and/or desired number of image memories are captured and recorded, the user loses his/her (lol why bother since Uchiha women got screwed over) eye, and Izanami activates.


The jutsu only began once Kabuto started replaying the same sequence of events. Up until that time, everything was actually happening.


In short, Izanami acts like a cam-recorder that records for a period of time, and then plays them back continuously disallowing the target to escape until he or she accepts his/her fate.


So every attack on Itachi counted. Since they were kill shots, the Izanami would not have succeeded. Itachi would be dead. Additionally, Edo Itachi had his tag in a position to where Kabuto would have erased it had Sasuke not saved him... Thus meaning right at that moment Kabuto won (in terms of one on one with Kabuto).

This also means moves such as the sound genjutsu, and any other technique used by Kabuto were real and did effect Itachi.
So with this logic this person believes Lee and Tsunade killed Madara....
 

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As to my understanding of edo tensei, The Edo's are still limited to the same level of chakra they had during life. So unless itachi could do that in life he cannot do that as an edo tensei.

The edo tenseis have unlimited chakra, meaning not restricted in number or quantity...It doesn't allow for an unlimited amount of chakra to be used at once, but they do not run out of chakra and they regenerate it almost instantly we know Itachi can make clones, and we know the use of abilities while being an edo was not draining his chakra...

Even if his max his at one moment 4 clones, then He can make those 4 clones with susanno, Then 4 more, and repeat...

We have no idea what Itachi's maximum container of chakra is or isn't... His stamina is low, but as an uchiha, he had a decent amount of chakra from being born with unnatural mental energy
 
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