Itachi was sick and twisted and deserved to die (Must Read!)

[Magnolius]

Do you know what a village consists of?


Well, villagers of course :sdo:


Adults: Women, Men, elderly people, grandparents.

Youth: Teenagers, pre-teens, boys and girls, young women and men, all with hopes dreams and aspirations.

Children: little kids, peoples children, toddlers who barely experienced life, babies who had just been born.


All dead.


To be be sick and twisted enough to stab and slaughter and kill every single one of these people is crazy. I would understand him being able to kill adults, that somehow makes it a little better. But the thought of babies that died, and kids clinging to their mothers and fathers as Itachi came and stabbed them all with his sword or burned them down with Katon. It's purely disgusting. Everyone holds him to high and mighty, forgetting that he brutally murdered children and innocent old people, destroying families and ultimately commiting genocide. I understand that he was forced to, but not against his will. He had the option to kill the clan or die with them when the leaf village came. He took the cowards way out. As far as the manga says, there were no survivors. That means that he dug his steel blade into the throats and stomachs of poor and innocent children who didn't even know what was going on. Teenagers that probably hadn't even graduated and were full of so much hope and aspirations and old people who are weak and feeble and so very kind. Not every Uchiha was an evil person that deserved to die. There were people who owned shops, who had families and loved to live and Itachi completely slaughtered them all. I don't mean just blowing up the entire village like Deidara would have. He pulled out his katana and intentionally slaughtered every single individual. Of course he had help from Obito, who also had his fair share of slaughter. But i'm mad because both the manga and and the fanbase holds them with such high regards like they were amazing characters when they committed genocide. **** the adults, they are the main reasons that the Uchiha are in the position they were in. I'm thinking about the children, the fear they must have suffered before there last dying breaths.




The only thing they can save this solid fact is a small theory that maybe Itachi sparred the children and young people and carried them off to some uninhabited area. That is where Shin Uchiha came from and why he loves Itachi so much. or Maybe Obito, being the mentally insane person that he is, slaughtered and butchered all of the children and Itachi just killed the adults and his parents.


I can't even understand why the hell Sasuke forgave Itachi. To forgive such a gruesome in extremely awful crime isn't possible. I wouldn't even be able to stand the look of Itachi. WHat he did was so intolerable. He is the solo god, he was a great brother, but he was a crazy and terrible person. Sorry, but it's true. Well, it's opinion. Maybe you guys think otherwise, that slaughtering children isn't really that sick and twisted, but....who am I to judge.



THIS ISN'T A BASH THREAD! This is a deep and careful analysis of Itachi's crimes. Answer with a serious attitude.

 

[To Whatever]

Everyone deserves to die.

Everyone is twisted.

And a majority are sick

Welcome to the nv. Where you can attempt to kill world leaders and control the world without fear of jail

 

[Arima]

I agree. He prevented the revolution, but the way it was achieved was horrible.

 

[ANiMUS]

Nice to know :Sparks:

 

[Everztar]

no wonder ur name is Hated.

 

[Magnolius]

no wonder ur name is Hated.

I knew that I would take a great risk for making this thread considering everyone loves itachi, and even I did at one point. But I don't stand by any single character anymore, I stand by what I believe in. Even if i'm Hated for it

 

[Chie]

This is evidently a bait thread, however...

The Uchiha rejected the notion of negotiation when Itachi brought it up at the meetings. Meaning, the blood of the Uchiha lies on the hands of their own leadership. Rejecting peaceful alternatives to make a statement with one's might via a violent takeover is unsightly.

People who criticize Itachi's actions are exceedingly hypocritical. For the simple reasons of a) The conflict is a result of a select few from the village leadership and the clan belief system as a whole and b) They were going to die regardless as Danzo intended to have Anbu/Root do it but then had Itachi do it because he wanted the kid out of the village (as he would be the most likely Hokage candidate in the years to come).

Due to point B existing, if you're against Itachi's actions- you just want ALL the Uchiha to die along with various civilians and ninja throughout the village too. You're condoning the Uchiha massacre (which is equivalent to a suicide) in favor of it still happening and mass genocide. Congratulations.

Itachi had no choice in whether or not his clan lived. He only had a choice regarding himself. Would he preserve his own honor and keep his hands clean? Or would he save the people he was capable of and let the clan remained admired by shouldering the dishonor?

He evidently chose the latter and as a result is a tragic hero with his flaw being that he was too self-sacrificing. This is fact. Look at things in context, don't pull here and there so it can suit you.

You also mention the possibility of him relocating some? He had no connections outside of Konoha, Itachi would have been homeless had Obito not offered that Akatsuki spot for him. He cannot be penalized for killing people who had their leadership deny something that would prevent it.

You mention how it's difficult for Sasuke to forgive Itachi? For a good portion of the manga, Sasuke was intent on committing mass genocide and making the Uchiha clan massacre meaningless, with no regrets... simply because of his own emotions. Itachi had no better options and yet still had regrets and even had the grace to admit that he failed. See a difference? It would be odd for Sasuke to NOT forgive Itachi.

 

[nointro]

If Itachi hadn't done what he did then it would have been the 4th world war & who knows how many other children and old people would have been killed. Either option he chose there would have been innocent blood on his hands, imo he just picked the lesser of two evils.

 

[Umari Senju]

You do know what a ninja is yes?

You do know what their job entails, right?

Ninja aren't honorable warriors. They're assassins. They do some dark and effed up stuff. So let's not signal out Itachi and call them all for what they are....

Murderers.

 

[Angelic.]

Didn't read itachi solos

 

[Devauzamaki]

Did you not pay attention?? The uchiha was dead regardless. itachi was being selfless. If didnt kill uchiha, konoha would kill him and sasuke and uchiha would still get killed.

There was no saving uchiha.

Blame Konoha and Danzou. thats who you need to point at.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Killing a few to save the many is all well and good but killing the weak and harmless like children and non shinobi women doesn't make sense to me as well. However Itachi was forced to do it by Danzou by blackmailing and manipulating him. He might even had used KA on Itachi which Itachi never realized imo.
Still its sad that he had to kill those people and he suffered as long as he lived because of that. But I disagree that he was sick and twisted in any way. He protected the village from the shadows as long as he live and edo Itachi even broke the edo tensei and reformed Kabuto. How many lives did that save?

 

[Magnolius]

This is evidently a bait thread, however...

Maybe it's considered one, but I definitely wasn't a willing participant.

The Uchiha rejected the notion of negotiation when Itachi brought it up at the meetings. Meaning, the blood of the Uchiha lies on the hands of their own leadership. Rejecting peaceful alternatives to make a statement with one's might via a violent takeover is unsightly.

As I said in my OP, "**** the Adults, they're probably the reason that the Uchiha were slaughtered". I completely understand that Itachi was forced into the actions that he made, and the Uchiha were very incompliant and couldn't be reasoned with. But that still does not justify the slaughter of the innocent, who had no part in it. Or maybe it does serve as an adequate justification, but that doesn't very so make it morally tolerable.

People who criticize Itachi's actions are exceedingly hypocritical.

That's a very... rude and invalid stereotype. But i'll leave you to your opinion.

For the simple reasons of a) The conflict is a result of a select few from the village leadership and the clan belief system as a whole and b) They were going to die regardless as Danzo intended to have Anbu/Root do it but then had Itachi do it because he wanted the kid out of the village (as he would be the most likely Hokage candidate in the years to come).

All of these are great facts that support Itachi's actions and serve as great justification. But whether his actions can be justified or not isn't exactly the theme of this thread. It is, were his actions acceptable. And I do think so, in regards to eliminating the adults. But then I take the children into consideration, teenagers, toddlers, and even infants. I have three little brothers, and you're not going to sit here and tell me that Itachi killed them because he was forced to. That is my family, I loved and grew bonds with them. They had nothing to to with the actions of the adults, and were completely innocent, yet butchered and slaughtered simply because they are Uchiha. You might as well start to argue for and justify the Holocaust while you are at it.

Due to point B existing, if you're against Itachi's actions- you just want ALL the Uchiha to die along with various civilians and ninja throughout the village too. You're condoning the Uchiha massacre (which is equivalent to a suicide) in favor of it still happening and mass genocide. Congratulations.

You must not have read the OP. Whether it was inevitable or not, the slaughter of innocents is simply intolerable and disgusting.

Itachi had no choice in whether or not his clan lived. He only had a choice regarding himself. Would he preserve his own honor and keep his hands clean? Or would he save the people he was capable of and let the clan remained admired by shouldering the dishonor?

I had no choice in whether this person here would be killed or not. But, I might as well be the one who kills this person, because that makes it okay.

He evidently chose the latter and as a result is a tragic hero with his flaw being that he was too self-sacrificing. This is fact. Look at things in context, don't pull here and there so it can suit you.

He was a coward who in the end game comitted an EXTREMELY awful crime, whether forced to or not, for the sake of his own life, his brothers life, and a village that has been killing and hating his kind for years.

You also mention the possibility of him relocating some? He had no connections outside of Konoha, Itachi would have been homeless had Obito not offered that Akatsuki spot for him. He cannot be penalized for killing people who had their leadership deny something that would prevent it.

That makes this fact solid.

You mention how it's difficult for Sasuke to forgive Itachi? For a good portion of the manga, Sasuke was intent on committing mass genocide and making the Uchiha clan massacre meaningless, with no regrets... simply because of his own emotions. Itachi had no better options and yet still had regrets and even had the grace to admit that he failed. See a difference? It would be odd for Sasuke to NOT forgive Itachi.

That still wouldn't make Sasuke forgive Itachi. But it also wouldn't make him any better himself. Good thing he didn't go through with his plans.

 

[Magnolius]

You do know what a ninja is yes?

You do know what their job entails, right?

Ninja aren't honorable warriors. They're assassins. They do some dark and effed up stuff. So let's not signal out Itachi and call them all for what they are....

Murderers.

Aaaand that's suppose to be some sort of justifcation for slaughtering innocent people. I'm a Ninja, so i'll be over to kill you and your family later and you better not complain :sdo:

 

[Magnolius]

Did you not pay attention?? The uchiha was dead regardless. itachi was being selfless. If didnt kill uchiha, konoha would kill him and sasuke and uchiha would still get killed.

There was no saving uchiha.

Blame Konoha and Danzou. thats who you need to point at.

I understand this. I also understand that apparently (somehow) many others would have died had he not slaughtered the Uchiha. But at the end of the day, and in accordance to the point of this thread, that still doesn't make it okay. But that's just life, and life is a sick and twisted game that not everyone wins.

 

[Legendary Saiyan]

At least the children won't be controlled by Danzo. Then again let's not bring up Orochimaru and his sick experiments...

 

[Magnolius]

But I disagree that he was sick and twisted in any way.

I somewhat agree and disagree with this statement. he wasn't exactl sick and twisted, that was an opening line to get the readers attention. But it surely must have took a lot of balls, guts, mental strength and a strong stomach to slaughter your way through villagers.

 

[Magnolius]

Then again let's not bring up Orochimaru and his sick experiments...

Oh, i'll have a thread for that later. I'm touching in on the truth about everyone, no ones safe. Not even Himawari XD just kidding.

 

[Legendary Saiyan]

Oh, i'll have a thread for that later. I'm touching in on the truth about everyone, no ones safe. Not even Himawari XD just kidding.

It's not like Itachi loved doing what he did though lol

 

[Magnolius]

It's not like Itachi loved doing what he did though lol

Of course not. But he's still got a very red ledger.