Itachi vs Tsunade

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Lol. I don't know what kind of correlation you are trying to make here, but, the chakra inside the brain and the chakra inside the Yin Seal aren't the same as they are not located in the same location, obviously. Unless you want to tell me that the inside of the Yin Seal is also Tsunade's brain. Jiraiya's statement doesn't do anything to help your argument, at all, because you have failed to prove that the release of chakra stops Tsunade's flow, and then disrupts it.


They place their chakra into Naruto's to disrupt the flow, which means they are using their chakra to stop and disrupt his chakra flow, that doesn't even begin to translate to "Any time chakra is put into another, their chakra flow is being disrupted. Same action, different uses. I could touch someone or something, but be doing different things each time. There is no evidence that any release of chakra automatically disrupts the flow of chakra.



Are the cars gonna stop or slow down? Not unless they choose to. I didn't force them to.
The yin seal is located right on the forehead, the chakra goes right into the brain's network before anywhere else in the body when released. Also another reason, look at this, the seal is connected to the network as Tsunade uses chakra from the seal to look young even without it being released but when it gets released all that chakra is released into the body all at once, like kinda when someone uses more power like Jiriaya said to disrupt their flow. Also Jiriaya said they they simply needed to disturb the flow not stop it at all.

Yes it does. How does it not? When people use the chakra transfer arent they disrupting the flow already in place. Adding more chakra to the network from somewhere else not from the stomach is a disruption.

They do slow down when you get hit, there is force for a second when the car hits you. There is your disruption.
 

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And even then, let's say that it works. Yin Seal Release happens once. What happens when she gets captured while it's released?
Why would Itachi do it again once he has seen it doesnt work and she has already broken it without knowing if she can break it again or not?\

Itachi is not stupid.
 

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A truly genius post.
Funny how that doesn't counter it, while assuming she will remains conscious. A doctor capable of curing heart disease is not immune to heart disease.

I still believe screaming was the most genius post I've seen for genjutsu(sound).
 

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The yin seal is located right on the forehead, the chakra goes right into the brain's network before anywhere else in the body when released. Also another reason, look at this, the seal is connected to the network as Tsunade uses chakra from the seal to look young even without it being released but when it gets released all that chakra is released into the body all at once, like kinda when someone uses more power like Jiriaya said to disrupt their flow. Also Jiriaya said they they simply needed to disturb the flow not stop it at all.
Yin Seal being on the forehead=/=Yin Seal being the same as the brain, because it isn't. The chakra in the brain and the chakra in the seal are not in the same location unless you want to try and tell me that the Yin Seal and the Brain are located in the same exact place. On the forehead=/=In the brain. Hell, it's irrelevant, because the chakra is inside the seal itself, not the forehead.

I highly suggest you read that scan you posted again. "Right, when caught in Genjutsu, You must try your hardest to stop your chakra flow" Like I've said a million times, a release of chakra doesn't equate a disruption of chakra, nor is Tsunade releasing his chakra, and what Naruto did vs. Itachi when he got caught in Genjutsu the same thing. They didn't even use the same hand seals.


Yes it does. How does it not? When people use the chakra transfer arent they disrupting the flow already in place. Adding more chakra to the network from somewhere else not from the stomach is a disruption.
Uh, no, its not. In no universe does adding something automatically equate to a disruption.

They do slow down when you get hit, there is force for a second when the car hits you. There is your disruption.
Why would they slow down bar anything besides their own choice? Lol, that's right, they won't. If a car is coming at me, it's going to plow through me with NO disruption whatsoever. Its not going to stop. This isn't even debatable.
 

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Tsunade wins

> She is faster than the speed of lightning(she reacted to lightning teleportative ability), so she will blitz Itachi
> She counter tsukuyomi with brain damage healing technique
> She counters Amaterasu by cutting her limbs and regrowing one with her invincible/immortal regenerative ability
> 3 years old Tsunade had power comparable to current Sakura according to Hashirama, so 55years old Tsunade's strength >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sakura's strength(that almost killed Kaguya) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Susanoo defense
 

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Why would Itachi do it again once he has seen it doesnt work and she has already broken it without knowing if she can break it again or not?\

Itachi is not stupid.
Because its as obvious to any idiot how she did it. One moment she's in Genjutsu, the next moment, her seal opens, and she's free. Lmao.
 

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The moment she gets stabbed in the chest she is released from the genjustu. Heals from that.
Good. Then he puts Tsunade in genjutsu again, and then dismembers/decapitates her. With someone like Itachi and his excellent crow bunshin feints, that is not that unlikely of a strateguy.
 

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Yin Seal being on the forehead=/=Yin Seal being the same as the brain, because it isn't. The chakra in the brain and the chakra in the seal are not in the same location unless you want to try and tell me that the Yin Seal and the Brain are located in the same exact place. On the forehead=/=In the brain. Hell, it's irrelevant, because the chakra is inside the seal itself, not the forehead.

I highly suggest you read that scan you posted again. "Right, when caught in Genjutsu, You must try your hardest to stop your chakra flow" Like I've said a million times, a release of chakra doesn't equate a disruption of chakra, nor is Tsunade releasing his chakra, and what Naruto did vs. Itachi when he got caught in Genjutsu the same thing. They didn't even use the same hand seals.

Uh, no, its not. In no universe does adding something automatically equate to a disruption.
I am not at all trying to say that. Total opposite I have been stating forever now that the yin seal is a different source of chakra so of course its not going to be in the same place as the chakra in the brain. What I was saying is once the seal is released, the chakra from the seal hits the network in the brain first since its closest there, its not coming from the stomach like it usually would, its breaking through network lines, that is the disruption, not the fact that its adding more but its from some where that is wont come from usually.

The network lines are there already, they all come from the stomach, it flows like that regularly. It now coming from the head breaking into the lines, flowing in the head, that is the disruption.

Why would they slow down bar anything besides their own choice? Lol, that's right, they won't. If a car is coming at me, it's going to plow through me with NO disruption whatsoever. Its not going to stop. This isn't even debatable.
No you dont slow down but the force of the car hitting the person is in itself a disruption. If a car is driving and hits something, the driving was disrupted no matter what.
 
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Because its as obvious to any idiot how she did it. One moment she's in Genjutsu, the next moment, her seal opens, and she's free. Lmao.
Itachi does not know what Byakugo does, if Tsunade doesnt outright tell him she stores chakra in her forehead then no he has no idea how she did it and if she can do it again.

Then at that point Katsuyu is summoned and her simply staying on Tsunade easily keeps Tsunade out of any genjustu like a Bijuu would for a Jin. Tsunade and Katsuyu have a connection if you didnt know. Or better yet her liquid form does the same.
 
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Itachi does not know what Byakugo does, if Tsunade doesnt outright tell him she stores chakra in her forehead then no he has no idea how she did it and if she can do it again.
Irrelevant. She's stuck one moment, seal is released, and she's free. It doesn't take a genius to put two and two together.

Then at that point Katsuyu is summoned and her simply staying on Tsunade easily keeps Tsunade out of any genjustu like a Bijuu would for a Jin. Tsunade and Katsuyu have a connection if you didnt know. Or better yet her liquid form does the same.
Ok, sure. That makes much more sense than the whole Yin Seal business.
 

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I am not at all trying to say that. Total opposite I have been stating forever now that the yin seal is a different source of chakra so of course its not going to be in the same place as the chakra in the brain. What I was saying is once the seal is released, the chakra from the seal hits the network in the brain first since its closest there, its not coming from the stomach like it usually would, its breaking through network lines, that is the disruption, not the fact that its adding more but its from some where that is wont come from usually.
This is pretty much you rephrasing what you've already said, with nothing backing it up. An addition is not a disruption, and it coming from an outside source isn't going to make it a disruption. Where it comes from has zero effect on what it's doing.

The network lines are there already, they all come from the stomach, it flows like that regularly. It now coming from the head breaking into the lines, flowing in the head, that is the disruption.
And you have still failed to prove how chakra being added equals a disruption. It coming from another source isn't going to automatically make it a disruption. Does it coming from another source automatically mean that it's going to stop the flow of the receiving source? No.


No you dont slow down but the force of the car hitting the person is in itself a disruption. If a car is driving and hits something, the driving was disrupted no matter what.
Does that force cause the car to stop? Does that force slow down the car? No, so its driving was not interrupted, stopped, or disrupted in any way, shape or form.
 

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Tsunade makes use of the Chakra she stored up to enhance her strength and regeneration. Do you know what disturb Chakra means? That means your Chakra flow is disturbed, brought out of balance.

So Tsunade fights and uses Jutsu with a disturbed Chakra flow? Interesting.
 
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