[VS] Itachi Vs Six Paths of Pein

[BenjerminGaye]

We all saw sick itachi use Amatersu and Susanoo the ought the fight against Sasuke and holding back I might add :|

Jiraiya's fight with pain was much shorter than itachi and Sasuke by a couple of hrs.

It was somewhat as long as naruto vs pain

Minus the minato part

We saw him use 1 tsukuyomi then fall to his knees.
2 ama then knees again.
Susanno then death.

Itachi's fight wasn't as long as jmans.

 

[SuperChief]

Itachi gets beaten like a mule.

People need to get over this stupid obsession with Itachi. He's top tier, but there are plenty of characters that are stronger, and Pein/Nagato certainly is.

 

[KidGamer65]

Bro they come out in sets of three(just like in manga) and its sick itachi.
If he's pushing susanno/ama just to fight the first set (you didn't even factor ms backlash). He isn't beating all 6.

Animal was the first one out, then he is the one who called Preta and Human Path, but since Animal Path will be dead, there's only two out. In fact they never came out 3 at a time.

First 1 came out.

Then 2 were called.

Then another one came out with the last 2.

The fact that Itachi can finish them faster than Jiraiya can means that Itachi will fight smaller groups at a time.

-He was able to use V4 Susanoo long enough to defeat the Hydra and seal Orochimaru, he only needs Susanoo in the first phase to destroy the summon and kill Animal Path, then he can deactivate it and use Amaterasu, which he can use without dropping to the ground....

In fact he only needs a normal Genjutsu on Konan and Amaterasu on the summon and Animal Path, so that's chakra and stamina conserved right there.

The rest of the fights he only needs a Ribcage or V2 Susanoo, and that shouldn't be a problem at all given what he pulled off during his fight with Sasuke.


Then again this is assuming this is how it goes, cause if Pain is being killed of quickly, I doubt that he'll just send them out in small groups, but since OP said just like it was when he fought Jiraiya, I put him in Jiraiya's shoes.

If he took on Pain (All 6 at once) he'd lose mid diff.

 

[Conspirator.]

Animal was the first one out, then he is the one who called Preta and Human Path, but since Animal Path will be dead, there's only two out. In fact they never came out 3 at a time.

First 1 came out.

Then 2 were called.

Then another one came out with the last 2.

The fact that Itachi can finish them faster than Jiraiya can means that Itachi will fight smaller groups at a time.

-He was able to use V4 Susanoo long enough to defeat the Hydra and seal Orochimaru, he only needs Susanoo in the first phase to destroy the summon and kill Animal Path, then he can deactivate it and use Amaterasu, which he can use without dropping to the ground....

In fact he only needs a normal Genjutsu on Konan and Amaterasu on the summon and Animal Path, so that's chakra and stamina conserved right there.

The rest of the fights he only needs a Ribcage or V2 Susanoo, and that shouldn't be a problem at all given what he pulled off during his fight with Sasuke.

That's pretty convincing.....I must add, itachi sent out a shadow clone to naruto before the sasuke fight, and a crow clone to meet sasuke. Even then, he was still able to use all those high level ms techs.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Animal was the first one out, then he is the one who called Preta and Human Path, but since Animal Path will be dead, there's only two out. In fact they never came out 3 at a time.

First 1 came out.

Then 2 were called.

Then another one came out with the last 2.

The fact that Itachi can finish them faster than Jiraiya can means that Itachi will fight smaller groups at a time.

-He was able to use V4 Susanoo long enough to defeat the Hydra and seal Orochimaru, he only needs Susanoo in the first phase to destroy the summon and kill Animal Path, then he can deactivate it and use Amaterasu, which he can use without dropping to the ground....

In fact he only needs a normal Genjutsu on Konan and Amaterasu on the summon and Animal Path, so that's chakra and stamina conserved right there.

The rest of the fights he only needs a Ribcage or V2 Susanoo, and that shouldn't be a problem at all given what he pulled off during his fight with Sasuke.

Why would animal path die? He can just chill in the chameleon and use the joint sight from the other paths to attack. And if things get tough he summons petra and that other one early. Then it's 4 against 1.

If itachi attempts tsukiyomi on konan Petra and animal path kill him during back lash. If he uses standard sharingan gen then they:
A) attack him directly which breaks the gen(according to chiyo)
B) use buddy method.
C) protect her when he tries to capitalize.

Deva,machine, and the resurrection path were summoned all at once before jman put animal,petra and that other one under frog song.

Unlike hydra pain's dog isn't going down by cutting it. It would just multiply. Then you have the crab, bull, bird, panda, chameleon (and I'm STILL sforgetting some)to deal with all with linked eyesight. He's gonna have to stab them with totska which takes time to seal as seen by both nagato and oro monologues before death. Or ama which drains him. Not to mention the paths can see chakra buildup and possibly absorb it via Petra.

Then konan who only got caught by gen jutsu when obito had to flat out choke a b¡tch and force her to look at him at point blank range. Not to mention her flurry of techniques and abilities. Mixing paper bombs with paper and such.

All that and deva and his crew didn't step on the scene yet.

The resurrection path brings animal(and all his summons) back, petra (to absorb itachi's fire balls) and that other one(extra line of sight I guess) back. To fight with machine path and his missiles/forehead laser, and deva with his gravity techs.

And at the end of the day he still has no counter to chibaku tensai.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

That's pretty convincing.....I must add, itachi sent out a shadow clone to naruto before the sasuke fight, and a crow clone to meet sasuke. Even then, he was still able to use all those high level ms techs.

Weren't they both crow clones which cost less than a shadow clone?

 

[VongolaX]

We saw him use 1 tsukuyomi then fall to his knees.
2 ama then knees again.
Susanno then death.

Itachi's fight wasn't as long as jmans.

No he used his crow clone to fight Sasuke, then left for the hide out.

After that itachi trolled with two more clones and base genjustu a on Sasuke, then uses his sharingan to show him a genjustu of Madara, his past, and the eternal mangekyo secrets.

He then spares with Sasuke in taijustu (may I remind you that taijustu is like 100% stamina with little to no chakra).

Uses tsukyomi, also uses Amatersu spam like for 2 minutes following Sasuke.

Uses Susanoo to kill Orochimaru's strongest form and seals an Amatersu in Sasuke before dying.

Obito said that was holding back...

If he were anymore serious he would be using shurikenjustu to puncture the pressure points.

If fighting Six path of pain, Itachi would make little hesitation to send a crow clone (like he did naruto & Sasuke) to find the real body.

(Which I stated in page three in this thread)

By then he would kill Nagato shutting down all the other paths.

That or use an ocular genjustu since nagato's vision is connected to the bodies

 

[BenjerminGaye]

No he used his crow clone to fight Sasuke, then left for the hide out.

After that itachi trolled with two more clones and base genjustu a on Sasuke, then uses his sharingan to show him a genjustu of Madara, his past, and the eternal mangekyo secrets.

He then spares with Sasuke in taijustu (may I remind you that taijustu is like 100% stamina with little to no chakra).

Uses tsukyomi, also uses Amatersu spam like for 2 minutes following Sasuke.

Uses Susanoo to kill Orochimaru's strongest form and seals an Amatersu in Sasuke before dying.

Obito said that was holding back...

If he were anymore serious he would be using shurikenjustu to puncture the pressure points.

If fighting Six path of pain, Itachi would make little hesitation to send a crow clone (like he did naruto & Sasuke) to find the real body.

(Which I stated in page three in this thread)

By then he would kill Nagato shutting down all the other paths.

That or use an ocular genjustu since nagato's vision is connected to the bodies

Half of the things you mention were genjutsu only, the rest was already addressed.
You have yet to provide a scan proving that there's a link from nagato's nervous system to that of his paths.

Crow clone? Really bro? And what? The paths or konan is just gonna let him? 4 v1 at match start(not including summons) and his crow clone gets away. Lol. Not to mention crow clones don't function like shadow clones. The information the crow clone gets won't be transferred back, on top of the fact that he has no means to find nagato in the first place.

 

[VongolaX]

Half of the things you mention were genjutsu only, the rest was already addressed.
You have yet to provide a scan proving that there's a link from nagato's nervous system to that of his paths.

If you read the arguement with Briyant-Nagato fanboy 4 life up there, you'll see the scans proving that nagato's vision is connected with his paths.

I don't think they share physical strain/pain from each blow the paths receive but vision is out of the question.

Crow clone? Really bro? And what? The paths or konan is just gonna let him? 4 v1 at match start(not including summons) and his crow clone gets away. Lol. Not to mention crow clones don't function like shadow clones. The information the crow clone gets won't be transferred back, on top of the fact that he has no means to find nagato in the first place.

Is that so?

Where did you get this information from?

Is there a scan for it?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

If you read the arguement with Briyant-Nagato fanboy 4 life up there, you'll see the scans proving that nagato's vision is connected with his paths.

I don't think they share physical strain/pain from each blow the paths receive but vision is out of the question.




Is that so?

Where did you get this information from?

Is there a scan for it?

I've read the argument. He never said that they have a neural link. The manga doesn't say that they have a neutral link. Infact it says they function like security cameras. The analogy he tried to explain to you.

As for shadow clone:

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Now I'd like you to find a scan saying crow clones function the same way.

 

[VongolaX]

I've read the argument. He never said that they have a neural link. The manga doesn't say that they have a neutral link. Infact it says they function like security cameras. The analogy he tried to explain to you.

As for shadow clone:

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Now I'd like you to find a scan saying crow clones function the same way.

Not at all

You didn't read it, after u explained it his retort was that ma and pa were assuming the functions of the rinnegan.

They're eyes are linked so that there won't be any blind spots.

You clearly didn't read the post, you just skimmed.

As for the crow clone, itachi gave naruto Shuisui's eyes and knew exactly were it was during the war arc.

Also, Itachi's crow kind of told were his real body is located.

That scan doesn't disprove itachi's crow clone not being able to relay information.

Kakashi said anything kage bushin, crow clone is a form of kage bushin.

It's not as durable as naruto's though...

 

[Phonas]

Itachi should win with high difficuly, considering he already countered every aspect of the Paths of Pein during his battle with Nagato. Killer Bee and KCM Naruto only helped him in countering Chibaku Tensei, that's about it. The Totsuka Blade can arguably seal CT in its entirety.

I don't think genjutsu is needed when you have the ethereal Yata and Totsuka.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Not at all

You didn't read it, after u explained it his retort was that ma and pa were assuming the functions of the rinnegan.

They're eyes are linked so that there won't be any blind spots.

You clearly didn't read the post, you just skimmed.

As for the crow clone, itachi gave naruto Shuisui's eyes and knew exactly were it was during the war arc.

Also, Itachi's crow kind of told were his real body is located.

That scan doesn't disprove itachi's crow clone not being able to relay information.

Kakashi said anything kage bushin, crow clone is a form of kage bushin.

It's not as durable as naruto's though...

I did read it. He never said they share a neurologic link with each other. Their brains aren't connected to each other. So itachi's chakra can't invade nagato's brain therefore nagato isn't hit by itachi's genjutsu.

What you need to do is prove that the brains of the dead bodies are connected to nagato. Until then don't bring up the matter.


You don't have scans proving his crow clones duo relay information and exp. And he sent a shadow clone to naruto not a crow clone.

Kage bunshin=shadow(kage) clone(bunshin)

Karasu Bunshin= Karasu(crow) Bunshin(clone)
Not crow shadow clone.
It doesn't get shadow clones abilities, until proven otherwise.
That's on you btw.

 

[SuperChief]

Itachi should win with high difficuly, considering he already countered every aspect of the Paths of Pein during his battle with Nagato. Killer Bee and KCM Naruto only helped him in countering Chibaku Tensei, that's about it. The Totsuka Blade can arguably seal CT in its entirety.

I don't think genjutsu is needed when you have the ethereal Yata and Totsuka.

This is bloody hilarious and so wrong I don't even know where to start.

 

[KidGamer65]

Why would animal path die? He can just chill in the chameleon and use the joint sight from the other paths to attack. And if things get tough he summons petra and that other one early. Then it's 4 against 1.

That's not how it went for Jiraiya. He never called others until Jiraiya started getting the upper hand, but since Itachi has quick moves that will kill him once they hit, he'll never call the others.

-Already said why Animal Path stands no chance, go read my post.

-Already said why the other 3 aren't going to come in at all while Animal Path is here.


This parts irrelevant as Animal Path won't be alive, but I'll reply anyway.

If itachi attempts tsukiyomi on konan Petra and animal path kill him during back lash. If he uses standard sharingan gen then they:


A) attack him directly which breaks the gen(according to chiyo)

Then Susanoo limbs crush them while Shurikenjutsu takes care of Preta.

B) use buddy method.

Before or after Itachi kills them? Lol, before. Obviously, unless he stands there.

C) protect her when he tries to capitalize

He'll be right in front of her, they aren't fast enough to do anything, nor can they do anything with their moveset once it reaches this point.

Deva,machine, and the resurrection path were summoned all at once before jman put animal,petra and that other one under frog song.

Uh..wrong. They appeared AFTER Gama Rinsho.

Unlike hydra pain's dog isn't going down by cutting it. It would just multiply. Then you have the crab, bull, bird, panda, chameleon (and I'm STILL sforgetting some)to deal with all with linked eyesight. He's gonna have to stab them with totska which takes time to seal as seen by both nagato and oro monologues before death. Or ama which drains him. Not to mention the paths can see chakra buildup and possibly absorb it via Petra.

Not even gonna reply to this part. The way you have this fight laid out is pure nonsense.

-Since when was Animal Path able to summon all his summons before Itachi kills him, especially since Itachi can kill him before he ever summons them.

-Since when was it 4 on 1 when Itachi can quickly kill off Animal Path with 2/3 of his MS techniques?

Then konan who only got caught by gen jutsu when obito had to flat out choke a b¡tch and force her to look at him at point blank range. Not to mention her flurry of techniques and abilities. Mixing paper bombs with paper and such.

That is all Itachi has to do, don't mention her fodder techniques here. Ribcage says hi.

All that and deva and his crew didn't step on the scene yet.

The resurrection path brings animal(and all his summons) back, petra (to absorb itachi's fire balls) and that other one(extra line of sight I guess) back. To fight with machine path and his missiles/forehead laser, and deva with his gravity techs.

And at the end of the day he still has no counter to chibaku tensai.

The rest of this only comes about if we follow your ridiculous scenario


CT won't be used in his home village. Read the OP.

 

[VongolaX]

I did read it. He never said they share a neurologic link with each other. Their brains aren't connected to each other. So itachi's chakra can't invade nagato's brain therefore nagato isn't hit by itachi's genjutsu.

What you need to do is prove that the brains of the dead bodies are connected to nagato. Until then don't bring up the matter.


You don't have scans proving his crow clones duo relay information and exp. And he sent a shadow clone to naruto not a crow clone.

Kage bunshin=shadow(kage) clone(bunshin)

Karasu Bunshin= Karasu(crow) Bunshin(clone)
Not crow shadow clone.
It doesn't get shadow clones abilities, until proven otherwise.
That's on you btw.

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I'll prove you wrong about the pain thing later, but first let us clear this up.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

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I'll prove you wrong about the pain thing later, but first let us clear this up.

That's a crow clone. Itachi didn't say anything about said clone in the entirety of that fight. Only sasuke. And even then itachi didn't acknowledge it.
Try again.

 

[Phonas]

This is bloody hilarious and so wrong I don't even know where to start.

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[OmegaRed721]

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Wait so rocks can be sealed into a genjutsu?

 

[Joseph Gomes]

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That scan is nothing but hype. If he believe this shit than Prime Hiruzen > all Hokage

Pain beats Itachi mid difficulty. Itachi has no counter to CT. Preta path absorbs amaterasu. Tsukoyomi won't hurt dead bodies (even if it affects, I don't agree that it will). Naraka Path will revive any path Itachi destroys. Asura Path will keep Itachi busy with his missiles.

Itachi doesn't have wide range jutsu to permanently damage all the pains at the same time. Deva Path will stay afloat and finish him off with Chibaku Tensei. With co-ordination the Pain are very powerful. Itachi won't have Plot no Jutsu to save his ass