[VS] Itachi vs Sasori

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Lol, that's not how it works. It's an assumption because it clearly did not happen, as we saw every usage of IS and every usage was avoided through Chiyo's help. And even if I were to give Sakura the benefit of the doubt and say she dodged a falling block. That still does not warrant her from dodging any of the other IS techniques which were far faster. Kishimoto threw in Itachi's invincibility for the lols, Hiruzen's hype for the lols, etc. Either way, I don't care what Kishi's intentions were with that statement, we saw every IS, and Chiyo's statement is thus an assumption.

Then I guess all hype counts, because they fit the conditions of a character stating it. No need to prove Yata can deflect all attacks, because a character stated it.

You need to stop using garbage logic, and nonsense comparisons.

1. Chiyo's statement of fact=/=Hype. Chiyo's statement of fact=/=Hyperbole. Before you reply saying it is, I suggest you learn what Hyperbole and hype means. A character stating a fact=/=A character stating hyperbole, which is why hyperbole can be contest. Fact cannot be contested, although you seem to think it can. Lol

2. You don't care about what Kishimoto is putting in the manga? Then I shouldn't care about your arguments, especially since they are disregarding manga fact. Author>Fan, any day of the week pal.

3. What happened is irrelevant, cause what happened doesn't contradict anything. Chiyo said that Sakura had started to see through his attack pattern. No panel you post is going to disprove that, or change that. Chiyo stated that now she can do it like this, on her own. That has no bearing on what she did before. Once again, please stop trying to debate manga fact, it's getting pretty ridiculous.


Do people not realize IS's large forms are slower then the ones Sakura couldn't avoid at all by a lot

Anyone with common logic can realize that lml

Itachi avoids the larger ones easily
Irrelevant. Chiyo is fast enough to react to his Iron Sand. Chiyo's puppets are fast enough to evade his Iron Sand, and yes I'm talking about the smaller ones. So Itachi does the same, with little effort.
 

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You need to stop using garbage logic, and nonsense comparisons.

1. Chiyo's statement of fact=/=Hype. Chiyo's statement of fact=/=Hyperbole. Before you reply saying it is, I suggest you learn what Hyperbole and hype means. A character stating a fact=/=A character stating hyperbole, which is why hyperbole can be contest. Fact cannot be contested, although you seem to think it can. Lol

2. You don't care about what Kishimoto is putting in the manga? Then I shouldn't care about your arguments, especially since they are disregarding manga fact. Author>Fan, any day of the week pal.

3. What happened is irrelevant, cause what happened doesn't contradict anything. Chiyo said that Sakura had started to see through his attack pattern. No panel you post is going to disprove that, or change that. Chiyo stated that now she can do it like this, on her own. That has no bearing on what she did before. Once again, please stop trying to debate manga fact, it's getting pretty ridiculous.



Irrelevant. Chiyo is fast enough to react to his Iron Sand. Chiyo's puppets are fast enough to evade his Iron Sand, and yes I'm talking about the smaller ones. So Itachi does the same, with little effort.

They evaded the IS as they weren't directed at them, No ones actualy evaded his spears which are supposedly faster then sound >.< So you can't use chiyo activating a shield as a feat to attribute Itachi evading

Its like saying Itachi activated Susano'o in the time of a lightning bolt so he's physically as fast as lightning, If chiyo really could of avoided it then she would have.

Also puppets aren't affected by gravity really, Itachi is
 

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They evaded the IS as they weren't directed at them, No ones actualy evaded his spears which are supposedly faster then sound >.< So you can't use chiyo activating a shield as a feat to attribute Itachi evading

It was aimed at both Sakura and Chiyo, not sure where you are getting the bold from. Lol.

Considering Chiyo has to physically react to block, then yes, I can use that to say a character tiers above her in all types of speed with Sharingan precognition to boot can evade it.

Faster than sound is nothing special, not in Naruto.

Its like saying Itachi activated Susano'o in the time of a lightning bolt so he's physically as fast as lightning, If chiyo really could of avoided it then she would have.

Also puppets aren't affected by gravity really, Itachi is

Doesn't change their speed.
 

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It was aimed at both Sakura and Chiyo, not sure where you are getting the bold from. Lol.

Considering Chiyo has to physically react to block, then yes, I can use that to say a character tiers above her in all types of speed with Sharingan precognition to boot can evade it.

Yes and Chiyo nor sakura didn't evade weightless puppets did Pre-Cog helps but it will be hard,


Faster than sound is nothing special, not in Naruto.

Its like saying Itachi activated Susano'o in the time of a lightning bolt so he's physically as fast as lightning, If chiyo really could of avoided it then she would have.



Doesn't change their speed.


Yes it does? Being weighted down by gravity means less fast, there is a reason fat people aren't fast lml it means they can move quicker and turn easier
 

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Yes and Chiyo nor sakura didn't evade weightless puppets did Pre-Cog helps but it will be hard,


Uh, nope. Sakura evaded multiple puppets, at once. Itachi is faster, better reflexes, and has Sharingan. Not to mention I'm not seeing how that means Itachi can't evade, when a puppet did.


Its like saying Itachi activated Susano'o in the time of a lightning bolt so he's physically as fast as lightning, If chiyo really could of avoided it then she would have.
I said that since someone as slow as her, in comparison to someone like Itachi, physically reacted, Itachi can evade. This comparison doesn't work for the following reasons:

1. I never said that Chiyo reacting=Chiyo evading. I said slow Chiyo reacting=Fast Itachi evading.

2. Itachi didn't physically react. Chiyo did. Multiple times.





Yes it does? Being weighted down by gravity means less fast, there is a reason fat people aren't fast lml it means they can move quicker and turn easier


Fine, you got me here...doesn't change the fact that Itachi's speed>Puppet's speed, and no, them not being weighed down by gravity doesn't automatically mean that they are faster than anyone who is.
 

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You need to stop using garbage logic, and nonsense comparisons.

1. Chiyo's statement of fact=/=Hype. Chiyo's statement of fact=/=Hyperbole. Before you reply saying it is, I suggest you learn what Hyperbole and hype means. A character stating a fact=/=A character stating hyperbole, which is why hyperbole can be contest. Fact cannot be contested, although you seem to think it can. Lol

2. You don't care about what Kishimoto is putting in the manga? Then I shouldn't care about your arguments, especially since they are disregarding manga fact. Author>Fan, any day of the week pal.

3. What happened is irrelevant, cause what happened doesn't contradict anything. Chiyo said that Sakura had started to see through his attack pattern. No panel you post is going to disprove that, or change that. Chiyo stated that now she can do it like this, on her own. That has no bearing on what she did before. Once again, please stop trying to debate manga fact, it's getting pretty ridiculous.



Irrelevant. Chiyo is fast enough to react to his Iron Sand. Chiyo's puppets are fast enough to evade his Iron Sand, and yes I'm talking about the smaller ones. So Itachi does the same, with little effort.

Lol, I disagree with this way of reasoning, but to each their own.

Either way, if Sasori changes the landscape beneath him into IS like he did when he formed the IS lake, he's practically won the fight since Itachi cannot cross that field without dying. I just find it ridiculous that someone Deidara admitted inferiority to, someone who beat the Kazekage and someone who defeated a country is being stated to have his IS dodgeable by fodder when such wasn't even shown.
 

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Lol, I disagree with this way of reasoning, but to each their own.

Either way, if Sasori changes the landscape beneath him into IS like he did when he formed the IS lake, he's practically won the fight since Itachi cannot cross that field without dying. I just find it ridiculous that someone Deidara admitted inferiority to, someone who beat the Kazekage and someone who defeated a country is being stated to have his IS dodgeable by fodder when such wasn't even shown.

Learn what fodder is because Sakura is not fodder and neither is Chiyo.
 

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Learn what fodder is because Sakura is not fodder and neither is Chiyo.

Sakura is fodder, Chiyo is not. But people are claiming Sakura can do it alone, so Chiyo is not part of this.
 

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Sakura is fodder, Chiyo is not. But people are claiming Sakura can do it alone, so Chiyo is not part of this.

Lol. Sakura is not fodder.
 

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sharingan = Sasori's weakness detected = one shot = GG

Fighting skilled sharingan user is suicidal for Sasori.
 

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Damn. The underrating of Sakura is real. She's a trained medic ninja who , it makes total sense that she's able to dodge Iron Sand on her own. Actual fodders are the ones that Sasori actually beat and used to make his human puppets (besides the kazekage ofc).

But, I'm not going to get into this with you right now.
 

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Itachi still wins this mid diff
 

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Sasori wins ex-High diff, But all the clueless users not knowing the mechanics and reasons why Chiyo and The Puppet Style Combat does not enter the same limits as humans. SMH
 

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Sasori wins ex-High diff, But all the clueless users not knowing the mechanics and reasons why Chiyo and The Puppet Style Combat does not enter the same limits as humans. SMH

Lmao, thats what im saying. This is why you dont see me debate Akatsuki match ups anymore.
 

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Lmao, thats what im saying. This is why you dont see me debate Akatsuki match ups anymore.

lol It's funny how they literally don't know why or how most the stuff that happened in the fight happened. You see me barely posting just killing time and not taking any one serious for a reason bro. haha
 

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^^ yeah... its disheartening, to say the least >_<
 

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Sasori wins. Without Susanno, Itachi's ass is left to twist in the wind. All of Sasori's puppets come with poison that require special antidotes to make. Not even Kankuro (a puppet and poison user) could cope with Sasori's poison. Sasori's iron sand via 3rd Kazekage, and 100 puppets jutsu solo Itachi med diff.
 
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