Then I switched from that argument later on, as shown by my last post, or the post before my last.
And no, I fail to see how that means anything as I have showed you Chiyo's assumptions are pure assumptions, not manga facts. She got hit by ISW, so Sakura obviously still did need Chiyo's help. Don't care if it's large or small scale, Chiyo suggested Sakura could do without her assistance, and it was manga disproven. So that claim was debunked, while reinforcing her previous claim of Sakura having on chance in such a fight and needing to flee.
Except you've failed to validly show anything. You just keep saying that her assumptions are assumptions because she got hit, and then ignoring relevant things, like what the hell Chiyo was referring to to begin with. Since you want to ignore important information, that's pretty much you saying that you can't counter. Chiyo's statement encompasses anything before her statement. That's a fact. Saying that she was wrong because Sakura got hit by a completely different jutsu in scale, that Chiyo had no knowledge about, doesn't really do shit to prove my argument wrong. So once again stop denying manga fact, it's getting pretty old.
What the hell? I have told you to prove it several times and you said Chiyo stated that Sakura has done so. I am waiting for proof, because "obviously" is no support for your argument.
Already proven by her statement. I'm waiting for you to stop trying to debate manga fact.
Because Sasori is a stationary fighter, Itachi is a highly mobile fighter. Sasori brings the fight to him, he doesn't go to his opponent to fight as a puppet master, that's common sense. So if he's in a location that isn't surrounded by trees, Sasori is obviously unaffected by Itachi climbing trees, because Sasori's IS will still be fired from long range (cutting the tree while Itachi dodges). Itachi is no monkey, he's an offensive fighter who will try to hit Sasori, yet has no way of doing such if he's constantly dodging abilities. If it plays out like that then it's a battle of attrition, and Sasori clearly wins, or if Itachi's massively far away, Sasori simply stands there and does nothing. Sasori will be the one to win while Itachi will be on the journey to nutrient deficiencies, sleep deficiencies, nearing the day (AIDS day), etc. So Itachi brings the fight or malnutrition gg.
Itachi has Exploding Clones, Katon, and Suiton. Being in a tree doesn't make the fight long range, especially since he has jutsu that can be used at the range he'll be at, as there is no location in any forest completely devoid of trees, nor is there any location where the trees are so far away that Itachi can't fight back from them.. Sasori's IS won't cut the tree, it'll pierce the tree just as it's done to literally everything it's ever hit in the manga.
Except Sasori can't constantly fire off Iron Sand, so Itachi won't constantly be dodging it, and there will be time for attack.
-Definitely not in attacking distance if Sasori makes a lack this
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. Just look at Sasori in comparison, the IS quantity is HUGE. As long as its on the floor then Itachi is in a bad location whether atop of tree or not, since he's also atop of some IS that can attack him from 360 degrees with IS shapes hitting from random places.
Lol, please stop overrating the size of that "lake" of Iron Sand. That distance is nothing for attacks like Katon, or Suiton...or Amaterasu, which isn't restricted here. The only issue is landing them, and even then, that isn't a major issue. Crow Clones and Shadow Clones pull Sasori's attention towards them, and Itachi, out of Sasori's LoS, hits him with Amaterasu and that's GG. He can't see him, so he can't see the blood on his eye, so he won't be able to tell it's coming. He won't be looking for Itachi since he'll think the real one is fighting him, due to the fact Itachi has trees for cover and due to the fact that Itachi's hand seal speed is too fast for him to even notice that a clone was made.
-No, it won't, because trees are easily cut down (at least around Sasori). Easily done if he buys time with ISW to make Itachi flee/hit him assuming he can't flee.
When you can show me Iron Sand attacks of Sasori's cutting anything, then we can talk. Iron Sand World is only going to pierce them.
Meaning malnutrition gg, because the area of IS is huge. And what? Sasori having IS 20cm underneath a fallen tree trunk while Itachi cannot fight looking in front and behind him certainly means Itachi won't be jumping away from them at such a close distance. Not a chance in hell Itachi can dodge from such a short distance without seeing the IS move, especially if it's from behind.
How so? Deidara is massively powerful, Sasori is scaled down to Shino levels at times.
Lol, massively powerful my ass..Hebi Sasuke isn't massively powerful, and he beat Deidara, even if narrowly.
Lol, by who?
And yet she saw all of Sakura's dodging capabilities when Hiruko was active.
Yeah, she saw her evade Hiruko's attacks, not while she was controlling Sasori. Let's completely ignore the fact that seeing through his attack pattern is one of things Chiyo said will let Sakura dodge on her own.
Unless you're telling me Sakura wasn't trying and she didn't give a rats ass about being hit by lethal poison cus she got "antidotes to spare." Clearly Chiyo saw her speed and estimated that IS would be too fast. Chiyo decided to stop helping with chakra strings and 5 seconds later ISW scratches her thrice. Coincidence? Nah.
Let's also ignore that the IS that actually hit her was larger in scale than the rest, and something Chiyo doesn't know about, thus not put into her analysis. Let's also ignore that Chiyo's analysis of her abilities changed after they had actually encountered it, meaning there is a reason that it changed, meaning the reason it changed was in between the first statement, and the second statement.(obviously) Let's also ignore that her seeing through his attack pattern is one of the major reasons she wouldn't need support any more.
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Lol, "she doesn't really need support anymore"
Lol. wasn't stated alright.
Sakura still had the antidote at the time so saying she can win by herself could be assuming that Sakura's tactic would revolve around the antidote's ambiguity. ISW does not move at speeds faster than any of them (bar larger variants). Sand Drizzle on the other hand is not being dodged at all, no reason to think she can.
Except she never said that Sakura can win alone, Chiyo said that Sakura has read through Sasori's attack pattern, and then states that she doesn't need support. Obvious conclusion is obvious. Context refers to her dodging his attacks, nothing else. Once again, stop twisting manga statements. It's clear what Chiyo meant in that scan. What does the antidote even have to do with anything Chiyo stated?
Irrelevant. ISW has far more AoE. Obviously harder to dodge something with more AoE than with less AoE if they are the same exact speed.
I would agree had Chiyo not seen Sakura fighting and dodging vs Hiruko. So it was saw Sakura's capabilities, claimed Sakura was too weak for Sasori's IS, fights alongside Sakura giving her assistance, Sakura punches IS block, Chiyo and Sasori are astonished. Chiyo proceeds to claim Sakura can fight this without her support, releases chakra strings from Sakura, 2 seconds later Sakura is cut three times over by ISW. Yea.. I'm not seeing exactly how Chiyo came to such a conclusion, but it seems the initial conclusion she had was more correct than the latter conclusion.
Based on pretty much absolutely nothing at all, for reasons already explained.
