Itachi vs Sasor

[AGoodBoy]

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Sasori wins

Are you serious draegod or did you just not think of this matchup much? Itachi could take this fight with just his 3 tomoe sharingan... In fact, I'd argue that the only thing he needs MS for would be to Bust hiruko, but even then an exploding bushin should suffice...

 

[blazekev90]

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Itachi destroys Gaara.

How does Gaara counter Utikata, or Amaterasu? Gaara blocked Enton, not Amaterasu.

the better question is, how does he not? lol

 

[Penguin]

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He has his sand dome for Amaterasu.

Amaterasu is too fast. If not, Totsuka demolishes.

 

[Strict]

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@ bold I really hate when people state this all the time. When amaterasu is initially used it requires prep, no dummy would sit there, watch someone build chakra in his eye (hence the bleeding) and not react.

Always these guys who downplay Uchihas abilities. Genjutsu are negated by simply avoiding eye contact, Amaterasu is useless because no one wouldn't react while he is preparing Amaterasu with a complex setup of Chakra and eye bleeding.

Is this poor argumentation even worth of being confuted?

Well, Itachi already showed how quickly he can use Amaterasu. [

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Sasuke also used it pretty fast on other occasions with the MS [

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This long prep time of Amaterasu (Sasuke vs. Hachibi, Itachi vs. Sasuke) is entertainment as well. Even if this prep time will be present against Sasori, he still can't do shit against it. Sorry.

 

[Prince Charles]

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Lmao what I say? sasori fans aint ready!

 

[Optimistic]

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Amaterasu is too fast. If not, Totsuka demolishes.

For MS users,

1.Build up chakra

2.Eye bleeds

3.AMATERASU!!!

doesn't seem that fast to me.U_U

 

[Penguin]

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For MS users,

1.Build up chakra

2.Eye bleeds

3.AMATERASU!!!

doesn't seem that fast to me.U_U

Your seriously downplaying it's speed. The time it takes to build up the chakra and bleeding eye is under a second. Unless your a sensor [not a physical sensor like Gaara] and have intel on the technique, there is no way to dodge it.

 

[Fodder#4]

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This thread is somewhat disgusting.

 

[Shura]

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1. How is he going to know amaterasu is going to happen? Once it burns, it doesn't stop. Shinra Tensei works by exerting all the chakra by forcing it through deva path, that is how Nagato was able to react to it, and even still he was in a deathly state. And Itachi has demonstrated amaterasu high enough to burn out through a cave wall and counteract Goukakyuu, he can easily make one big enough to surround the ENTIRE area of Sasori's side.

Countering Amaterasu won't be hard for someone like Sasori. While it's true that Sasori has no intel on it, he'll gain it as soon as Itachi tries to counter his Satetsu with it. Sasuke

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. After Sasori sees it once, he will know that Itach's eye bleeds before he uses Amaterasu. A simple counter to it would be

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. Go ahead and try to claim how that was Enton so it's slower than Itachi's Amaterasu, but not really. We have seen that in the manga,

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. That's why when Itachi tried to hit Sasuke with Amaterasu,

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and

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. In reality, alive Itachi's Amaterasu isn't any faster than Sasuke's Enton so Sasori can block it with Satetsu. Another simple counter to it, would be

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so the Satetsu Dome would take the hit of

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. And of course,

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for himself and the Sandaime Kazekage. Once Amaterasu hits him, he can just remove that layer of Satetsu Armor and make a new one. In a worst case scenario,

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. Don't even think of trying to say ''Sasori can't make Satetsu Domes or Armors'' because it has been stated that

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2. This was stated and ESTABLISHED several times, he wasn't trying on Sasuke, and furthermore he was sick for all christs sake, you can't tell me in a serious fight he would actually collide Goukakyuu? You are using a no limits fallacy; saying that because Itachi doesn't start out with amaterasu as shown in the manga, he won't now and factoring it, completely ignoring the other factor of the fight and disregarding any strategy pitted against yours. Exactly what I was talking about..

Sorry, but I'm using an alive sick Itachi (As stated in the OP) here and alive Itachi has never shown to use Amaterasu on the opponent first. He always uses it to counter the opponent's technique first instead. As shown in his fight with Sasuke,

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. And as seen in his battle against Jiraiya,

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3. Again, no limits fallacy. You can't assume what is going to happen just because it's happened like that in the manga. No counter-argument for breaking Susano'O, i'm not going to bother. How is he going to die of overuse when Sasori dies in one stab with Totsuka? How's he going to die of overuse when he had just halfway tanked a kirin and still managed to use it to defeat Eight Headed Serpentia? Sasori isn't going to STALL HIM for that long.

After Sasori sees Susano'o,

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. Afer he does this, Itachi's only way of reaching Sasori would be by using Yasaka Magatama or Totsuka Blade which can both be blocked by Satetsu. Don't even try on saying that Totsuka can't be blocked because it's a spiritual weapon. Totsuka

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. Sasori can block it. Countering Susano'o isn't hard. All Sasori has to do

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and then

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. Once he does this, Itachi's Susano'o won't be able to move and

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. Oxygen enters Susano'o just fine so will poison. Once Itachi breathes it in, he will die. This isn't Sasori's only counter to it, but this is it from me for now.

 

[blazekev90]

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Always these guys who downplay Uchihas abilities. Genjutsu are negated by simply avoiding eye contact, Amaterasu is useless because no one wouldn't react while he is preparing Amaterasu with a complex setup of Chakra and eye bleeding.

Is this poor argumentation even worth of being confuted?

Well, Itachi already showed how quickly he can use Amaterasu. [

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Sasuke also used it pretty fast in other occasions with the MS [

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This long prep time of Amaterasu (Sasuke vs. Hachibi, Itachi vs. Sasuke) is entertainment as well. Even if this prep time will be present against Sasori, he still can't do shit against it. Sorry.

it must have been worth it if you felt the need to counter it and collect scans.

The amount to time to build concentration and for it to be half way down the users face it indeed enough time to 1) acknowledge and 2) react (depending on the opponent)

An opponent, especially a sand user has the ability to act according. It's not about knowing what is being used nor trying to prevent, it's a caution procedure.

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here we say Sasuke close his eyes and prep amat. (blaze release). The process is the same, the user closes his eye, bleeds and BOOM. Garra not knowing, simply sent sand forward because he know shyt was about to go down. Sasori given he has iron sand as well, can very well demonstrate the same method. IMO this is common sense (something I say often). Sasori does have a 5 intelligence and is arguably one of the most intelligent characters in the series (as displayed.

 

[Optimistic]

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Your seriously downplaying it's speed. The time it takes to build up the chakra and bleeding eye is under a second. Unless your a sensor [not a physical sensor like Gaara] and have intel on the technique, there is no way to dodge it.

There's other ways of countering amaterasu from MS users, you don't need to dodge to not sustain any damage from it.

It doesn't take a sensor to know when its coming if you have the knowledge then you'll know what to do before they open their eyes.

Nagato shouted he's about to use it and Bee had time to throw his sword at Itachi.

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Blocking the users line of sight is also a good counter to amaterasu.U_U

 

[Penguin]

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I know there are other ways such as blocking the line of sight, bunshins, etc.

Does Gaara have intelligence on Amaterasu? Enton is flame manipulation, as it does not spawn on the target, but actually travels. Amaterasu outclasses it in speed.

Nagato is an excellent sensor, and thank Killer Bee's reflexes. That was Edo Itachi by the way, not alive Itachi.

I realize this.

 

[Shura]

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Does this make sense? No. The Sharingan can see the Chakra flow in ones body. While the center of a humans Chakra system is his brain, the Sharingan will uncover that the place on his chest is his center, making a conclusion out of it. If Sasori gets set on fire, his core will burn, too. If you argue with his coat which will protect the core from the flames in the beginning, I must ask how he will remove the core from his chest when it is encased with Sasori's clothes.

In the end, the whole argumentation of Sasori's fanbase is nothing but a clutch at straws.

Nah. Sasori's Chakra travels throught his whole body as seen when he was about to use his one hundred puppets technique. There was

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despite the heart being on the left side of his chest. It's also a fact that Sasori can use Chakra Strings via his fingers so Chakra travelled to his fingers. This proves that Sasori's Chakra goes throught his whole body and Itachi won't know anything unless Sasori removes his cloak and tells him. And not only will Amaterasu burn the cloak, but it takes what? A second to remove his cloak so the heart can go out.

I know there are other ways such as blocking the line of sight, bunshins, etc.

Does Gaara have intelligence on Amaterasu? Enton is flame manipulation, as it does not spawn on the target, but actually travels. Amaterasu outclasses it in speed.

Nagato is an excellent sensor, and thank Killer Bee's reflexes. That was Edo Itachi by the way, not alive Itachi.

I realize this.

Gaara beats Itachi. This is a Sasori vs Itachi thread so I'm gonna debate only for Sasori, but if you want.. VM me and I'll explain how Gaara slaps him.

 

[blazekev90]

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I know there are other ways such as blocking the line of sight, bunshins, etc.

Does Gaara have intelligence on Amaterasu? Enton is flame manipulation, as it does not spawn on the target, but actually travels. Amaterasu outclasses it in speed.

Nagato is an excellent sensor, and thank Killer Bee's reflexes. That was Edo Itachi by the way, not alive Itachi.

I realize this.

the prep is the same, garra counters (wayyy better than Sasori does)

 

[Optimistic]

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I know there are other ways such as blocking the line of sight, bunshins, etc.

Does Gaara have intelligence on Amaterasu? Enton is flame manipulation, as it does not spawn on the target, but actually travels. Amaterasu outclasses it in speed.

I thought you was talking about Gaara vs Itachi.U_U

I know the difference between Amaterasu and Enton im usually the one correcting people about that concept.U_U
Amaterasu is fast but it takes prep before usuage, first he has to close his eyes,then build up chakra,eyes bleed then open his eyes again for the move to work.

Amaterasu to this day is overrated.I can understand EMS Sasuke but from a MS user like Itachi wtf.

Nagato is an excellent sensor, and thank Killer Bee's reflexes. That was Edo Itachi by the way, not alive Itachi.

I know its edo ffs i'm using that as an example.

 

[Penguin]

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the prep is the same, garra counters (wayyy better than Sasori does)

3rd Kazekage [puppet] and Gaara are very close to equal in skill.

Unless Gaara has intelligence on Itachi's Amateras, he does infact get one shotted.

I thought you was talking about Gaara vs Itachi.U_U

I know the difference between Amaterasu and Enton im usually the one correcting people about that concept.U_U
Amaterasu is fast but it takes prep before usuage, first he has to close his eyes,then build up chakra,eyes bleed then open his eyes again for the move to work.

Amaterasu to this day is overrated.I can understand EMS Sasuke but from a MS user like Itachi wtf.

I know its edo ffs i'm using that as an example.

Again, if Gaara does have intelligence on it, he can block it. If he has no intelligence on it, he is done for. Amaterasu is overrated, but it is overrated for a reason. It is a godly technique that takes less than seconds to cast.

 

[Shura]

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3rd Kazekage [puppet] and Gaara are very close to equal in skill.

Unless Gaara has intelligence on Itachi's Amateras, he does infact get one shotted.

Incorrect. There isn't a scenario where Amaterasu one shots Gaara. With knowledge or not, Gaara counters it. It's a fact that Gaara wears a Sand Armor so if Amaterasu hits him, he just has to remove that layer of Sand Armor.

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[blazekev90]

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3rd Kazekage [puppet] and Gaara are very close to equal in skill.

Unless Gaara has intelligence on Itachi's Amateras, he does infact get one shotted.

he doesn't need info on amat! Unless Garra is being reckless this isn't happening, 80% the time Garra is covered, 90% of the time Garra is looking into his opponents eye (w distance). If Itachi was to start w/ amata, Garra counters (not intentionally, as having prior info) as shown above.

 

[Optimistic]

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Again, if Gaara does have intelligence on it, he can block it. If he has no intelligence on it, he is done for. Amaterasu is overrated, but it is overrated for a reason. It is a godly technique that takes less than seconds to cast.

It depends if the maker of a Gaara vs Itachi thread allows the knowledge for all of Itachi's moves.

It can't be cast in less than a second that's absurd.The steps before the move is cast is way over 1 second mate.

 

[Shura]

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It depends if the maker of a Gaara vs Itachi thread allows the knowledge for all of Itachi's moves.

It can't be cast in less than a second that's absurd.The steps before the move is cast is way over 1 second mate.

Honestly, Gaara doesn't need intel on any of his MS moves except maybe Tsukuyomi. Gaara's Sand Armor would protect him from Amaterasu anyways and it's not IC for Itachi to suddenly one shot him with Amaterasu.