Itachi vs Pain

[kadowade]

This right here is all I want to get through, Nagato 6pop when fully focused are not going to be defeated by one man, even if he could seal a few paths, he's just sealing the body, and Preta path can not be crushed by Susan, Susan is chakra. All I'm saying is Nagato 6pop would win a fight, by the time Itachi can focus on one he has to worry about another, heck, if human path grabs him one time it's over.

You actually think he would be able to "Grab" Itachi.

Itachi has never even been "touched by anybody. Only time he's been hit was by Sasukes Rigged Shuriken, ANd that only happened because of Itachi's sickness and had disturbed reflexes even zetsu was surprised. , other than that, itachi has never been hit, Not even by NAruto,Nor, SAsuke hasent even Ever physically touched Itachi not even in their battle.

But there is a way for itachi to immobilize or Amaterasu the other paths who cannot absorb chakra. And they wont Dodge Amaterasu, since Itachi Amaterasu Appears, it dosent travel. But Sasukes AMaterasu Travels, like when he did it on killer bee, it traveled to him.

None of pains bodies is That fast, to dodge Itachi's Amaterasu.

But Naruto's Rasengan crushed preta path, So Itachis susano"o Arm should crush it.

Like i said i see itachi destroying the other bodies, except Deva path would be a problem.

Just because itachi excels in Genjutsu dosent mean he sucks in other areas'

His taijutsu was able to keep up with bee/naruto. And that time when he appeared in front of sasuke and kicked him in the wall and put a dent in it. Even Sasuke with a sharingan couldnt tell.

And his ninjutsu is crazy fast, even Kakashi said" even with my Sharingan i couldnt even keep up. So Itachis Ninjutsu is gonna be a REAL challenge for the preta path if he can even keep up. ANd Itachi's clones efficincey is Crazy, since its SO fast.

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And itachi brilliance which excels almost anyother ninja. ANd PLUS he has Tsukiyomi and AMaterasu And Susano'o, so itachi MIGHT be able to beat all 6 paths, But i cant say yet. We have yet to see if itachi has anyother techniques, when he fights edo tensei's.

But 6 pains defiantly have a good chance But so does itachi.
They both can win.

 

[arv993]

You actually think he would be able to "Grab" Itachi.

Itachi has never even been "touched by anybody. Only time he's been hit was by Sasukes Rigged Shuriken, ANd that only happened because of Itachi's sickness and had disturbed reflexes even zetsu was surprised. , other than that, itachi has never been hit, Not even by NAruto,Nor, SAsuke hasent even Ever physically touched Itachi not even in their battle.

But there is a way for itachi to immobilize or Amaterasu the other paths who cannot absorb chakra. And they wont Dodge Amaterasu, since Itachi Amaterasu Appears, it dosent travel. But Sasukes AMaterasu Travels, like when he did it on killer bee, it traveled to him.

None of pains bodies is That fast, to dodge Itachi's Amaterasu.

But Naruto's Rasengan crushed preta path, So Itachis susano"o Arm should crush it.

Like i said i see itachi destroying the other bodies, except Deva path would be a problem.

Just because itachi excels in Genjutsu dosent mean he sucks in other areas'

His taijutsu was able to keep up with bee/naruto. And that time when he appeared in front of sasuke and kicked him in the wall and put a dent in it. Even Sasuke with a sharingan couldnt tell.

And his ninjutsu is crazy fast, even Kakashi said" even with my Sharingan i couldnt even keep up. So Itachis Ninjutsu is gonna be a REAL challenge for the preta path if he can even keep up. ANd Itachi's clones efficincey is Crazy, since its SO fast.

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And itachi brilliance which excels almost anyother ninja. ANd PLUS he has Tsukiyomi and AMaterasu And Susano'o, so itachi MIGHT be able to beat all 6 paths, But i cant say yet. We have yet to see if itachi has anyother techniques, when he fights edo tensei's.

But 6 pains defiantly have a good chance But so does itachi.
They both can win.

LETs end this both can win this depending on the situation. Lets not take this to another flame war.

 

[arv993]

off topic:how do u resize a sig some ppl are complaining that mine its too big

 

[laxus]

off topic:how do u resize a sig some ppl are complaining that mine its too big

get gimp or the other one naruto base recommened and use get scale to resize or any other photo editor.

 

[arv993]

get gimp or the other one naruto base recommened and use get scale to resize or any other photo editor.

i just use photobucket for getting the bbcode but is it like gimp.com or something

 

[laxus]

i just use photobucket for getting the bbcode but is it like gimp.com or something

they have similar qualities but photobucket is better from what i've heard soit should be able to make it smaller for you

 

[arv993]

they have similar qualities but photobucket is better from what i've heard soit should be able to make it smaller for you

thanks a lot for the info, i will go and try it on the site i haven't explored it much yet

 

[HECTOR]

Nagato wins using 6 path. Pein with link visions will defeat Itachi easily.
Even Naruto had to use 9 tails completely just to escape from Chibaku Tensei and considering Nagato is in good condition so no doubt Nagato wins this match!

 

[Hokage emmanuel]

listen closely madara would pwn pain and itachi too both at da some time.

you know deep down that u r a liar with that statement of yours, madara is a thief and a chicken, why dont he come out and face naruto right now? Naruto would go ninetails on him and its over but nagato and itachi together would be nightmare for him, he would 1st suffer b4 he dies period...pls stop being a chicken like your name implies and be blunt with your postings, we all are not chickens like ur freaking madara

 

[Fnatic]

I would go for pain, maybe 70-30 in favor of pain
knowing that itachi is a smart and also strong guy, I am sure he would stand a chance.. but against a rinnegan is just a little to much..
I based my answer from what happened to kakashi and to naruto....
Kakashi is a smart guy but pain seems to possess large amount of chakra since he used shinra tensei repeatedly until he fought naruto.. Moreover, I don't think kakashi is far from itachi in terms of level.. so basically, itachi would try to do some tricks but the battle would more likely favor pain...

 

[MinatoFLASH]

I would go for pain, maybe 70-30 in favor of pain
knowing that itachi is a smart and also strong guy, I am sure he would stand a chance.. but against a rinnegan is just a little to much..
I based my answer from what happened to kakashi and to naruto....
Kakashi is a smart guy but pain seems to possess large amount of chakra since he used shinra tensei repeatedly until he fought naruto.. Moreover, I don't think kakashi is far from itachi in terms of level.. so basically, itachi would try to do some tricks but the battle would more likely favor pain...

I agree completely, but Itachi is on a whole other lvl then Kakashi in power as for intelligence and tactics he is about the same. So yea i say that Pain wud win either 7/10 or atleast 6/10

 

[Vareec1997]

itachi

 

[MinatoFLASH]

i didn't mean to say easy, but he would win, if he uses shinra tensei he just turns intngible he can go anywhere from under the ground, behind or anywhere he could go behind him and absorb him. 5 kages is way too hard cos its 5 on 1 he would get hit as he trying to absorb someone else can attack him and A is way too fast. but he can beat nagato 1v1 he can absorb him cos nagato is not fast and none of his attacks works becus he just turns intangible and he can go near him and absorb him in 1-2 seconds. And you're forgetting nagato has a time limit, he can turn intangible instantly when he uses shinra and absorb him.

Really??!! Are u serious, 5 kages its 5v1 but here its 6v1! And yes the others can attack Madara while he is trying to absorb a path, and if he pops up to deva path to absorb him he can use shinra tensei. Dude just stop and face it! There is no way Madara cud absorb the 6 paths one by one, if your Madara can jus hop around and absorb ppl theory was true then he wud of absorbed the 5 kages, yes A is fast but he can just throw a smoke bomb by him or something and get away with absorbing at least 3-4 kages. Not only that he also wud of absorbed Kakashi and Yamato and Shino and many other of the strong ninja!!

 

[arv993]

Really??!! Are u serious, 5 kages its 5v1 but here its 6v1! And yes the others can attack Madara while he is trying to absorb a path, and if he pops up to deva path to absorb him he can use shinra tensei. Dude just stop and face it! There is no way Madara cud absorb the 6 paths one by one, if your Madara can jus hop around and absorb ppl theory was true then he wud of absorbed the 5 kages, yes A is fast but he can just throw a smoke bomb by him or something and get away with absorbing at least 3-4 kages. Not only that he also wud of absorbed Kakashi and Yamato and Shino and many other of the strong ninja!!

dude i said nagato not pain calm down and madara is smart he would just teleport to nagato and absorb him instead of fighting against 6 paths.

 

[kobi sugoichi kempachi]

I just don't get it. Like I said, if you based your entire argument off of CT and it fails, what else can you say?

Itachi showed that he can think calmly in tight situations. He analyzed the situation (quicker than Shikamaru), came up with a strategy and utilized it. Followed up with another attack, sealing Nagato away forever. Face it, his genius is what won the battle. And no, not Naruto and Bee, who were being held most of the time and being scared the other half. It wasn't 3 vs. 1. The attack to the core was solely Itachi.

Could he have done it on his own? Probably. Would he take that chance? No. He's tactical. If you have it, use it.

Itachi single-handedly stopped the shared vision, the statue and sealed Nagato. All the abilities that were so debated had become mute. What more do you need to prove it. Itachi's genius combined with the powerful techniques he has makes him the stronger ninja.

Ok, Itachi has proved that he his a tactical minded ninga but that doesnt make hin the better ninja.How can you say that when Nagato has proven to be an excellent strategest too. Nagato has proven to be very tactical in useing his pains twice;in the Jiraiya battle and In the attack on the villege.
I will explain this further but I nead to point out that Itachi broke edo tensei and Nagato was sill bound to Kabato's will.Nagato only knows the best way to defeat his opponent as do Itachi so You cant put realy any emphsis on that fight cus Nagato's mind was bound the hole fight.

Let me also point out that Kabato had complete control over Nagato and that he implamented is strategy not Nagato's,Witch was show to have major flaws that he himself point out. the argement that Itachi did in Nagato on his own Is irelevent.It was clear that the tail beast bomb was the most powerful attack of the three attacks.Its has the biggest destructive range of any attacks use in naruto pierod.Its not clear how powerful was susanoo
yakaya magataka but itachi still asked for naruto and bee attacks.


Now. as I stated in the first paragraph, nagato proved it 2 times to be an excellent stategest.

1) Nagato based a tactical strategy on jiraiya'qs unknown knowlege of the Rinnagan and its acular powers and that was used to its perfection. he then said it himself that he wouldnt have defeated Jiraiya if He new his secret. Meaning that Jiraiya was on a whole nother level than he was,wich as mentioned by Itachi.


2)He used a tactical strategy on the village that was ment to bring out Naruto but to send the village in turmil by attacking from 6 different areas. This in fact distabuted the leaf ninja around than just attacking the leaf with with the 6 pains together, send all leaf ninja to that one point.This was showed to be very effecient that It killed many ninja. Then by summoning the 5 pains out of konaha, Nagato was able to use Deva path shinra tensei to wip out the whole konahagakure.


How can you say Itachi's tactical skills makes him a better ninja when Nagato killed Jiraiya(who was mentioned by both to be powerful than themselves) and destroyed a whole village both with tactical percison and Itachi only sealed a ninja who had no controle over his actions cus of edo tensei.

Itachi said that everything has a weakness

If you dont know by now edo tenesi's weakness is that the resurrected is only as powerful as the abillites and tactics the person controling him inputs
We see this with all the resurrected that they are being sealed away easly cus they are a mere half of what they were before they died.


Nagato in a 1 on 1 fight with Itachi could defeat his strategy using the 6 pains to the best of there abilitties, He has a higher chakra level that Itachi, and the ocular powers of the Rinnagan far exceeds the Sharingan.


I will post an example of how the fight will go to show that Nagato's will overwelm Itachi with al his attacks

 

[MinatoFLASH]

arv, back to Itachi vs Pain, Pain wud win, or if u can prove that amatarasu can hit more than 1 target at a time then i admit Itachi cud win.

 

[kobi sugoichi kempachi]

This was posted by Ame no Kage

ok now that sounded like a fanboy reply,

lets see...

1) nagato is the one controlling the six paths is he not, cz they cant move on there own, so you cant deny he is not in the battle.....EVER.

2) itachi's stamina is hella weak, even in the data books show its hella weak

3) itachi cant spam any of his MS jutsu's with out causing himself harm pain and strain. so stop saying he can use another MS tec right after another instantaneously.

4) Itachi's stamina is naturally low. Even when he was healthy in Part I, he still could only use the MS three times a day, even so every use left him
fatigued.

5) if itachi knows what pains tecs are how did he not know what chibaku tensei was?

6) they did dodge rasenshuriken, they just didint know it could expand.

7) *attack with yaska immediately* where in the world does it say that? he can perform the jutsu but not immediately like your suggesting, he has to be in susanoo's full stage first which takes time to form.

8) *he can get multiple paths at once* how? dont bother using the current manga fight as material as you know very well why he managed to hit his summoning.

This was posted by me

Here Is an other example to add to Ame No Kage and Ill use numbers!!



1)Nagato has a stagegy formation for every opponent.He base a stategy just for jiraiya's uncertinty of the rinnagan and It ocular powers.That was no dought A pefect stategy played to percise fluency.

2)The six pains see's all and they will see all of itachi's atacks.Itachi will know this so Nagato will prepare.

3) He knows when Itachi will use amaterasu and put Peta path there to absorb it.It is ninjutsu.

4)Arv999 (that being U) said that Itachi will go after Deva path but he is absoluty wong, he will go after Naraka path cus It can revive anything. Thats His Best Chance of defeating Nagato.His pain formation is designed for its protection.

5) Nagato would Know that Itachi will try to seal Naraka path so nagato would make Animal path summon more Eyes on the battle field. He then would use Asura path to protect the eyes of any path and to counter Itachi's long rang jutsu.

6) Nagato will get Human path behind Susanoo cus thats were it weakness is EVERY THING HAS A WEAKNESS and Human path is the fastest of the paths and specialives in taijutsu. It couldnt even be detected by the sensors in Pain Arc.

7)He will make Deva path use Chibaku tensei and have Giant panda as a sacafice to the sealsword while he sends Giant Ox and Giant Rihno at susanoo
from each side to keep It occupide even though Susanoo cant destroy chibaku on his own. Nagato will test Its Yeta Mirror and close range combat hopefuly making an opening for Human path to get in close with Itachi.

8)You cant deny the combos of the paths and its tech. Not even counting the other 5 animal summoning and the way to use them.

9). Itachi will try to stop human path from getting behind him, and while Itachi is destracted, Deve path will have got chibake tensei started and thim Boom goes the dinamite.........Itachi is dead

This is Death number 2 For Itachi

You see, all this is poving that Nagato has counters to any thing itachi does cus in the end the Rinnagan can see all Itachi's attacks. Thats were the advantege lies. and pared with all of His abillities, he can counter itachi and defeat him.

 

[Saiyan Kammy]

Itachi

 

[arv993]

arv, back to Itachi vs Pain, Pain wud win, or if u can prove that amatarasu can hit more than 1 target at a time then i admit Itachi cud win.

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two heads of the dog

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got nagato and his bird

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the fire goes to 3 different places and it shoots at wherever he looks

 

[Kyuubikiller]

-__- This thread just won't die......

Pain.