Itachi vs Pain
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mehhh...
Itachi's best chance to win is Tsukuyomi....... once he connects Tsukuyomi on Pain. Pain is done for, BUT THE TRICK HERE is that 5 of the 6 pains can fight with eyes closed and one can watch the action from far. So Itachi would have to know which of the pains has the eyes opened to be caught in Tsukuyomi..... THIS IS AS FOR TSUKUYOMI.
Itachi Finger genjutsu powers are lower to Frog Song Genjutsu (sage level technique),
how do I know it is lower? A simple genjutsu no matter who uses it, IT HAS A LIMIT and this one to my eyes Frog Song is stronger than Finger genjutsu. HOW WILL PAIN COUNTER FINGER GENJUTSU? AS WE ALL KNOW RINNEGAN COMES WITH YING-YANG RELEASE. THIS MEANS THAT WITH YING RELEASE HE HAS A KNOWLEDGE ON GENJUTSU AND THIS WAS PROVEN WHEN INO'S FATHER TRIED TO GET INFO FROM ONE OF PAIN'S SUBORDINATES (he blocked his mind). This is for Finger Genjutsu.
Amaterasu, This has already been seen on manga. And even here we can infer it can be absorbed too. Since human path technique is like a sealing jutsu.
Susanoo, can be absorbed, and shinra tenseid AND EVEN CHIBAKU TENSEIED...... And no, you can't say that Itachi by himself can destroy it, because it hasn't been stated in the manga that he could do it alone (anything else is just assumptions)
NOW THEN......
Questions:
*how will Itachi counter gravity powers that target him specifically?
*Will Itachi's susanoo last forever?
*Will Itachi be able to find Nagato? (HE NEEDS TO DO IT IN ORDER TO REALLY WIN)
*Can he handle 6 pains by himself??
This is just my opinion. If someone is able to make me change my mind just post it and I will debate if it is not enough to change my mind.
Itachi's best chance to win is Tsukuyomi....... once he connects Tsukuyomi on Pain. Pain is done for, BUT THE TRICK HERE is that 5 of the 6 pains can fight with eyes closed and one can watch the action from far. So Itachi would have to know which of the pains has the eyes opened to be caught in Tsukuyomi..... THIS IS AS FOR TSUKUYOMI.
Itachi Finger genjutsu powers are lower to Frog Song Genjutsu (sage level technique),
how do I know it is lower? A simple genjutsu no matter who uses it, IT HAS A LIMIT and this one to my eyes Frog Song is stronger than Finger genjutsu. HOW WILL PAIN COUNTER FINGER GENJUTSU? AS WE ALL KNOW RINNEGAN COMES WITH YING-YANG RELEASE. THIS MEANS THAT WITH YING RELEASE HE HAS A KNOWLEDGE ON GENJUTSU AND THIS WAS PROVEN WHEN INO'S FATHER TRIED TO GET INFO FROM ONE OF PAIN'S SUBORDINATES (he blocked his mind). This is for Finger Genjutsu.
Amaterasu, This has already been seen on manga. And even here we can infer it can be absorbed too. Since human path technique is like a sealing jutsu.
Susanoo, can be absorbed, and shinra tenseid AND EVEN CHIBAKU TENSEIED...... And no, you can't say that Itachi by himself can destroy it, because it hasn't been stated in the manga that he could do it alone (anything else is just assumptions)
NOW THEN......
Questions:
*how will Itachi counter gravity powers that target him specifically?
*Will Itachi's susanoo last forever?
*Will Itachi be able to find Nagato? (HE NEEDS TO DO IT IN ORDER TO REALLY WIN)
*Can he handle 6 pains by himself??
This is just my opinion. If someone is able to make me change my mind just post it and I will debate if it is not enough to change my mind.
Ame no kage
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im just going to add a harmless note to what you said, animal paths 8 known summoning's have rinnegan also which give him field vision of a total of 14
mookyuzamaki
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Ame no kage
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tsukuyomi traps the mind of the target, the mind of the target is a distance away, itachi dont have the chakra or the stamina for that, nor has the ability to travel threw the eyes of the rinnegan to cast that jutsu.
Ame no kage
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=Pplease explain
explain? =O
what you posted above my lastest post? =O
Well, I didn't saw it in that way, but I still see the idea a bit blur, but it still can be true that distance and the amount of chakra availables may influence on trapping the target in tsukuyomi. Still I see the idea a bit blur.
Why?
Because the factor is that Shared Visions= Itachi watching at any of all the animals or paths eyes can make Nagato to watch Itachi's eyes making him instantly fall into Tsukuyomi. But it still won't kill Nagato. And the Pain vs Itachi fight won't end until Itachi is dead or Hidden Nagato is dead. Because if the first 6 dead bodies are destroyed Nagato can always replace them and send another 6 to fight until he dies. So Tsukuyomi won't do much since it is not an Killer tech. I consider Tsukuyomi= Genjutsu much likely like a BIG opening for big attacks.
anyways i still think Nagato has more advantages over Itachi.
DigitalMonster
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Itachi used Tsukuyomi twice in Part I and Amaterasu once.His healthy stamina should be higher than Kakashi.
And if Susano'o can be absorbed why didn't Nagato absorbed it when Totsuka clearly went right into him?
The bodies aren't avoiding Totsuka,it's ridiculously fast.
And if Susano'o can be absorbed why didn't Nagato absorbed it when Totsuka clearly went right into him?
The bodies aren't avoiding Totsuka,it's ridiculously fast.
exactly Tsukuyomi twice and amaterasu once AND WHEN HE WAS WITH KISAME WHAT DID HE SAID?? he overexerted himself TOO MUCH
Nagato was stabbed first, making him wake up from complete control.
knowing this there are two chances:
*Nagato letting himself be sealed, before Kabuto could regain control over him
*Totsuka cannot be absorbed
(any of this two can be)
1: but, still it can be deflected by shinra tensei (in my opinion) why he didn't do it? It was an attack that came from a THICK wall of dust/sand,
ARE YOU able to see through a THICK wall of dust/sand?
2: why he didn't avoid/dodge it? Wasn't it stated that his legs where still hurt and he couldn't move right?
3: WILL ITACHI BE ABLE TO DESTROY THE CHIBAKU, TO THEN BE ABLE TO COME DOWN AND SEAL NAGATO?
remember nagato can fly, so he can attack from distance
Ame no kage
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itachi masked himself in the rubble of there attacks on chibaku tensai, it shows nagato standing there, the dust or smoke from the attacked impaired kabuto's vision allowing itachi to ready susanoo and strike with totsuka sword, when nagato's body was striked with the sword, nagato's state of mind was restored, and because he is more on naruto's side had no reason to use petra path
DigitalMonster
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lol,stop making me laugh.
Nagato was completely under Kabuto's control.And Kabuto is on the bad-guy side,Ame.
And if Nagato can repel Amaterasu even when being hit concurrently,why not Susano'o?
And Kisame
Nagato was completely under Kabuto's control.And Kabuto is on the bad-guy side,Ame.
And if Nagato can repel Amaterasu even when being hit concurrently,why not Susano'o?
And Kisame
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that Itachi can continue fighting,but chose to retreat for a being-a- good-guy reasonsexactly HE WAS UNDER KABUTO'S COMPLETELY CONTROL, UNTIL ITACHI "practically" CHEAP SHOTTED HIM FROM BEHIND THE WALL OF DUST. Then he waked up, and came to his senses. If he's on his senses and back to normal, to who is he going to feel more inclination to support? Naruto or Kabuto?
In case you haven't noticed He could STILL BE CONTROLLED and he most likely decided to be sealed instead of absorbing the blade.
AND YOUR OWN LINK SAYS IT HIS BODY NEEDS TO REST....... THANKS FOR SHARING THE INFORMATION THAT REVEALS MY POINT =) =)
Amanwithnoplan
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If you notice in the manga, by the time Nagato repelled the Amaterasu, he was already burned to the point that a normal body would not have been able to recover.
get real dude. this is a fight of s-class ninjas. every second counts! in split second there can be a winner. specially nagato can feel if itachi is using his MS. he can prepare for it.
one wrong move the other paths might find an opening, specially behind itachi.. in that second other paths can stab him from behind.
no way he can win 6vs1 without some sort of help from others.
kobi sugoichi kempachi
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Kabuto was too busy listening to Itachi and naruto for Information.
When he herd wat he neaded to here, he used Nagato to capture Naruto
In a real 1o1 battle that wouldnt happen that way. Nagato can repel all creation in cluding himself to counter all creation
DigitalMonster
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materialized THROUGH CHAKRA......
Have you ever seen animes where spirits just pass through the things?? WELL THIS IS THE SAME IF YOU SAY IT IS SPIRITUAL THEN ATTACKS FROM SUSANOO WILL JUST PASS RIGHT THROUGHT THE THINGS...... But seems that it doesn't. Meaning that it is something spiritual materialized through chakra =/ =/
