susanno is chakra what else could it be and therefore can be absorbed if he could of destroyed celestial tera sphere by himself he wouldnt have asked for help he would of said in that cool way he speaks guys leave this to me.Kishi clearly loves the ucichas but i think he likes Nagato too hes the only guy to destroy konoha and had him fighting crippled being controlled vs 3 top tier ninjas providing opportunities that without help they would of died so i think he likes them equallyThis not gonna prove who would win. All we can do is use their techniques in a way that we would. And enough stuff is not proven, : Like pain being able to absorb susano'o, Or can Susano destroy Chibaku, Or do Genjutsu effect nagato, Or do Tsukiyomi effect all bodies, Or is rinnegan immune to Genjutsu.
Only kishi can decide an actual battle, And he clearly favors Itachi more than nagato, which means if they fought Itachi would win, because of kishi. And he gave itachi more feats and never made him lose to anyone. (((Sasuke not included))) He clearly gave itachi the upper hand to almost ANY ninja. The only ppl he might make him lose to is minato/madara/naruto/1st hokage 2nd/3rd/
He has to get out of susanoo to use amateseru he would be vunerable and also his chakra would be more then half done so hes trying to find nagato and he hasnt even killed them all + the revival path could just bring them backGoing thru the pains wouldnt be a problem since he has Susano'o, And if that chakr absorbing guy gets close, he would get Sliced up by Totsuku. And if AMaterasu is already on another pain body, he would have to bring the WHOLE body towards him, not just the flame since the flamw would become apart of his body, disenegrating him.
KA is not an instant win it would work on one path therefore not really affecting the outcome as much as lets say itachis stamaniaHonestly I don't think anymore points can be brought up, anything you post, you could probably find if you look a few pages back. I can say with great certainty that sickly Nagato with the 6 paths murder itachi, only thing he could do is use KA, but as it was stated, that is pretty much an instant win so I don't consider it valid.
Nagato and Itachi one on one is too difficult to predict, we've not seen nagato fighting 100%, although I believe that with the nine dragon sealing tech, that Nagato could quickly end the fight, I doubt there is anything else I could add to this discussion so I'm not posting anymore in this subject.
It wouldnt be an easy fight but itachi by himself cant really win his stamania isnt that good 3 or 4 techniques and its done.PAIN HAS 2 MANY MANUEVERS HE CAN DO. centipedes can be sent underground while the endless dog on surface to sprout and restrain susanoo. susanoo wud have 2 slice the centipedes and seal the dog. sealing takes time while all tht happens deva is charging the move tht destroyed konoha flying in the air with a bird. meanwhile absorbing susanoo from the back. unlike itachi pain can do all these things at once.
YOu dont have to get out of Susano'o since Amaterasu appear onto the target, it dosen't travel. Sasuke even Did Amaterasu inside of Susano'o.He has to get out of susanoo to use amateseru he would be vunerable and also his chakra would be more then half done so hes trying to find nagato and he hasnt even killed them all + the revival path could just bring them back
Oh well atleast we wud know why or why not the other person wud lose so lets do it and btw Kishi gave Pain WAYYY more features, flying, bringing dead back to life, destroy villages in 1 attack, etc! He is like a god, thats what Kishi said and gave him the strongest doujutsu ever so lets do this u be Itachi thing, i wud let genjutsu work on him and he cant absorb sasoonoo but no, not all paths wud be affected by genjutsu becuz when J-man did it then the other paths were functioning normally while 1 died. So yea lets do this thing i am Pain, what wud be ur first move?This not gonna prove who would win. All we can do is use their techniques in a way that we would. And enough stuff is not proven, : Like pain being able to absorb susano'o, Or can Susano destroy Chibaku, Or do Genjutsu effect nagato, Or do Tsukiyomi effect all bodies, Or is rinnegan immune to Genjutsu.
Only kishi can decide an actual battle, And he clearly favors Itachi more than nagato, which means if they fought Itachi would win, because of kishi. And he gave itachi more feats and never made him lose to anyone. (((Sasuke not included))) He clearly gave itachi the upper hand to almost ANY ninja. The only ppl he might make him lose to is minato/madara/naruto/1st hokage 2nd/3rd/
sasuke has more physical(not chakra)endurance in susanoo and uses the same eye as susanoo 2 manipulate it easier. itachi doesnt kno how 2 do tht. plus it wud hurt him 2 much 2 use at the same tym. he has always used it while deactivating the other.YOu dont have to get out of Susano'o since Amaterasu appear onto the target, it dosen't travel. Sasuke even Did Amaterasu inside of Susano'o.
But the only way he would win is Kill the "real" nagato. If he cannot do that then pain wins. Or if he can cut them in half, or just cut the revial path in half (Totsuku blade) so that he wont be able to revive anyone or him self.
when fighting sasukeIt wouldnt be an easy fight but itachi by himself cant really win his stamania isnt that good 3 or 4 techniques and its done.
if u do tht people will think he cant absorb susanoo. which he can.Oh well atleast we wud know why or why not the other person wud lose so lets do it and btw Kishi gave Pain WAYYY more features, flying, bringing dead back to life, destroy villages in 1 attack, etc! He is like a god, thats what Kishi said and gave him the strongest doujutsu ever so lets do this u be Itachi thing, i wud let genjutsu work on him and he cant absorb sasoonoo but no, not all paths wud be affected by genjutsu becuz when J-man did it then the other paths were functioning normally while 1 died. So yea lets do this thing i am Pain, what wud be ur first move?
I agree his chakra just cant stretch that far and i think the preta path would let susanoo get near the revival the summonind would be very troublesome the human path would be fatal at close range the asura path would be troublesome at the very least and the deva path would be in the back ground charging up some powerful technique if itachi had unlimited chakra he could win.YOu dont have to get out of Susano'o since Amaterasu appear onto the target, it dosen't travel. Sasuke even Did Amaterasu inside of Susano'o.
But the only way he would win is Kill the "real" nagato. If he cannot do that then pain wins. Or if he can cut them in half, or just cut the revial path in half (Totsuku blade) so that he wont be able to revive anyone or him self.
actually yeawell im out and fully convinced that pain wud win.
i still think nagato himself wud loose 2 itachi both healthy.
Wait so u agree that Itachi wud lose to Pain? I dont blame you, they have heavenly and destructive and supernatural powers, i mean jus look at the amv! i once thought Itachi cud win too but 6v1 it looks like Pain wud most likely win.actually yea
Itachi< 6pop
Itachi> Nagato
although kishi can make it how he wants, and it cud go either way
He used genjutsu then tsyukami once ,amateseru once then extinguished,Katon: goukuyayuu No jutsu once and susanoo once i dont think his illness affected his stamnia in konoha he only used 2 element techs amateseru genjutsu and tysukami twice and he was out if anything his stamnia seemed to be better vs sasukewhen fighting sasuke
While he was sick He fought with just Genjutsu,then used Tsukiyomi, and Used AMaterasu, And Used Amaterasu again then extingushed it, then used Katon: goukuyayuu No jutsu like 3 times, And even used a lil taijutsu at the beggining, Then Used Susano'o Then reactiavted it twice, And maintained it for like 7 minutes (Including all that talking he did while inside, and sealing orochimaru, Then he was walking 1 mile per hour towards sasuke,And plus he had Mangekyou Sharingan activated the whole fight. Then Finally dropped. He actually outlasted Sasuke and Sasuke has a LARGE chakra reserve. Sasuke was backing up against the wall with NO chakra while itachi had a Full/complete Susano'o walking towards him. Itachi managed to do all this While he Was "SICK" and was limited due to his sickness. So imagine a Healthy up to par Itachi.
yes itachi is most likely to win If he can finish it off quickly, because he is not the Long-battle type like Pain. So if the battle stretches on, then pain would eventually win. But itachi have uh chance if he can end it before it really startsI agree his chakra just cant stretch that far and i think the preta path would let susanoo get near the revival the summonind would be very troublesome the human path would be fatal at close range the asura path would be troublesome at the very least and the deva path would be in the back ground charging up some powerful technique if itachi had unlimited chakra he could win.
yea his chance is a short battle if he goes too long it is his loss. but itachi can pull it off, but tough fight he has strain himself.yes itachi is most likely to win If he can finish it off quickly, because he is not the Long-battle type like Pain. So if the battle stretches on, then pain would eventually win. But itachi have uh chance if he can end it before it really starts
Ok so ur Itachi i am Pain, lets take it from the start, u make ur first move.u guys r saying genjutsu doesn't work when it did, it can disturb their chakra and itachi can use that opening to beat the most troublesome one which is tendo pain, with susano. Amaterasu can get everyone it is fast and if preta ever tried to absorb itachi can deal that with sword or taijutsu. He just has to immobilize or sloow tendo pain which he can do with one tsukiyomi itachi is smart he knos who is powerful and who to get, and afterwards one amaterasu can send multiple fires like he did b4 and get other paths except preta and preta can be sealed or attacked by taijutsu. Itachi would be tired after the fight, he is a genius and can also make use of clones very well and can easily get tendo with genjutsu and get the rest with amaterasu and susano. he will be exhausted but he can win.
He used AMaterasu twice, cuz he 1st used it when him and sasuke did fireball justu, The he used it when he was chasing Sasuke with it. But he used susano'o twice when he blocked it from Kirin, then he activtated it again.He used genjutsu then tsyukami once ,amateseru once then extinguished,Katon: goukuyayuu No jutsu once and susanoo once i dont think his illness affected his stamnia in konoha he only used 2 element techs amateseru genjutsu and tysukami twice and he was out if anything his stamnia seemed to be better vs sasuke