Itachi vs Pain

[SixPathsMike101]

itachi has yatas mirror and sword of totsuka, that is his main edge

 

[baul 24]

Well a healthy Itachi with all techniques and knowledge including Izanagi and Izanami with both spiritual weapons can take this hell even kakashi was able to put a good fight without using MS only his tactis alone why can't Itachi the solo god and wisest shinobi. Well weak itachi is a debate as Itachi's fan i need to support him.

 

[Pyro NB]

I'm voting pain

 

[VVolfVVarrior]

You must understand that Itachi would have absolutely no intel like Naruto did against Pein.
I highly doubt that eye based genjutsu from sharingan would work on Rinnengan. Tsukyiomi would probably be worse for Itachi then of Pein bodies.
He also would have no idea that one of Paths can repair others. That is precious time that would to Pein victory. You do not need to beat Itachi, you just need to hold him long enough and he will start fall off.
Using Totsuka would mean using Susanno which is dangerous for MS users as they will go blind extremely fast. And Even than it took some time to seal Nagato. It is great against single target, but against multiple its fall off.
And Yata Mirror would probably be not so great against Chibaku Tensei. Yata repel all attack but Itachi himself said that every jutsu have weakness. How exactly would shield help you when you are crashed from every single direction ?

 

[LoZelda101]

You must understand that Itachi would have absolutely no intel like Naruto did against Pein.
I highly doubt that eye based genjutsu from sharingan would work on Rinnengan. Tsukyiomi would probably be worse for Itachi then of Pein bodies.
He also would have no idea that one of Paths can repair others. That is precious time that would to Pein victory. You do not need to beat Itachi, you just need to hold him long enough and he will start fall off.
Using Totsuka would mean using Susanno which is dangerous for MS users as they will go blind extremely fast. And Even than it took some time to seal Nagato. It is great against single target, but against multiple its fall off.
And Yata Mirror would probably be not so great against Chibaku Tensei. Yata repel all attack but Itachi himself said that every jutsu have weakness. How exactly would shield help you when you are crashed from every single direction ?

*roll eyes*

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

Itachi excels in 1 on 1 battles. Genjutsu (unless it travels through multiple bodies because of shared vision) can only be cast on one target at a time, and Pain's shared vision means only one path even has to look at him at a time.

I think you should wash your face so you can come back to your senses.

Visual Genjutsu don't work against Rinnegan.

Amaterasu doesn't help much, as Preta can likely absorb it, Deva can repel it, and Naraka can repair any bodies that go down.

That's correct.

Summons are a huge problem for Itachi, as he would have to expend a lot of chakra to take care of them permanently.

No,Itachi can't take down Summons even without chakra restraint. If Jiraiya with his top notch Toad summons had difficulty to take down "some" of Pain's summons then how can itachi defeat all of the summoning animals alone?

Itachi lacks firepower to take them down.

Susano'o is almost required in order to evade Deva, Summons, and Asura path, which means his chakra will be drained relatively quickly.

Any Susano'o below PS would be wipe out with Deva's almighty push. Summonings and Asura path are overkill.

Even Boss Toad summon of naruto, which fought against 1 Tailed beast head on, was pushed few kilometers back by almighty push. There is no way in hell Itachi's Susano'o could withstand against it.

Itachi outclasses in speed, but again, the paths can be repaired, and a blitz won't work 6 times in a row before any counter can be implemented.

@bolded what? Itachi can outclass 6 paths of pain in terms of speed?

Are you in your senses?

Deva path was running so fast that 6 tailed kyuubi naruto was experiencing difficulty to catch him. Itachi ain't that fast. At the end of Part 1 and at the beginning of part 2, Itachi was considered as a fast character but not anymore

BUT

Nearly all of this is nullified against Nagato himself.

This is utter BS. Nagato is much stronger than 6 paths and you are saying itachi can defeat nagato.

Genjutsu absolutely works just as well as against any other single opponent.

No,Visual genjutsu is useless against Rinnegan. No matter how many genjutsus itachi may try to use against Nagato it will not work against him. In the meantime, Nagato can gouge itachi's eyes out.

Amaterasu can immobilize, stall, or even kill Nagato.

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you were just saying that Preta Path can absorb Amaterasu,Deva Path can repel it and on the other hand, you are saying that Amaterasu can immobilize,stall or even kill nagato.

Are you on drugs or what?

Summons are dispelled instantly when Nagato is defeated, so as long as Itachi can take him down quickly, the summons won't be a problem.

Unfortunately, Itachi can't take down Nagato even in another million years as the difference between their powers is so vast.

Susano'o is only required against a single target, meaning it can be turned on and off when needed, and attacks will only come one at a time, meaning they could even be avoided if possible.

Itachi's Susano'o isn't a PS and i already debunked this fallacious claim.

Tsukuyomi, like Genjutsu, is extremely effective against a single target, and there is no chance the chakra drain will be taken advantage of.

Sigh, Visual Genjutsu = Useless against Rinnegan

Feints are Itachi's specialty, and work extremely well against a single field of vision (assuming Summons aren't a priority).

Oh really? A damn powerful taijutsu n!gga like Killer bee was taken down by nagato in a blink of an eye. Itachi's case will not be any different.

Katon Jutsus can be absorbed, or repelled, but not repaired, and can act as distractions and feints against a single set of eyes.

Katon jutsus were very very effective in PART 1 but it's proven useless and slow in PART 2.

Itachi still outclasses in speed, and only has to blitz or overcome Nagato once, rather than 6 times.

I have already debunked this claim.

Better luck next time.

 

[The Necromancer]

I think you should wash your face so you can come back to your senses.

Visual Genjutsu don't work against Rinnegan.


That's correct.


No,Itachi can't take down Summons even without chakra restraint. If Jiraiya with his top notch Toad summons had difficulty to take down "some" of Pain's summons then how can itachi defeat all of the summoning animals alone?

Itachi lacks firepower to take them down.

Any Susano'o below PS would be wipe out with Deva's almighty push. Summonings and Asura path are overkill.

Even Boss Toad summon of naruto, which fought against 1 Tailed beast head on, was pushed few kilometers back by almighty push. There is no way in hell Itachi's Susano'o could withstand against it.


@bolded what? Itachi can outclass 6 paths of pain in terms of speed?

Are you in your senses?

Deva path was running so fast that 6 tailed kyuubi naruto was experiencing difficulty to catch him. Itachi ain't that fast. At the end of Part 1 and at the beginning of part 2, Itachi was considered as a fast character but not anymore
This is utter BS. Nagato is much stronger than 6 paths and you are saying itachi can defeat nagato.


No,Visual genjutsu is useless against Rinnegan. No matter how many genjutsus itachi may try to use against Nagato it will not work against him. In the meantime, Nagato can gouge itachi's eyes out.

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you were just saying that Preta Path can absorb Amaterasu,Deva Path can repel it and on the other hand, you are saying that Amaterasu can immobilize,stall or even kill nagato.

Are you on drugs or what?

Unfortunately, Itachi can't take down Nagato even in another million years as the difference between their powers is so vast.


Itachi's Susano'o isn't a PS and i already debunked this fallacious claim.


Sigh, Visual Genjutsu = Useless against Rinnegan


Oh really? A damn powerful taijutsu n!gga like Killer bee was taken down by nagato in a blink of an eye. Itachi's case will not be any different.


Katon jutsus were very very effective in PART 1 but it's proven useless and slow in PART 2.


I have already debunked this claim.

Better luck next time.

There is too much speculation or simple misinterpretation of facts here for me to actually care to respond at 4:30 am.

 

[Guntah]

The only reasons Pain doesn't solo this is because he can't, having six bodies and such.

But he still gangbangs.

 

[Jaqueze]

Itachi solos

 

[UnknownJin]

Finger genjutsu gg

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Pain wins unless Deva Path is on cooldown.

The only reasons Pain doesn't solo this is because he can't, having six bodies and such.

But he still gangbangs.

Nagato would still do the soloing right. It's like if Sasori uses a puppet, he's still soloing ninja.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

There is too much speculation or simple misinterpretation of facts here for me to actually care to respond at 4:30 am.

my post was in accordance with mangafacts. Your comment was full of fanfic though.

 

[Lyke]

Hashirama said "Itachi is a better shinobi than me" before Kaguya was introduced

Hashirama was the strongest shinobi during that time which leads to

Itachi > Hashirama > Madara

 

[Jokule67]

Itachi has never exhibited Izanagi, nor does he have access to to Kotoamatsukami.

Pein wins.

exactly Pain stomps Itachi.

Idk why ppl keep bringing up KA like its his he gave it to Naruto.

 

[Jokule67]

Pain bodies tregeneration was slowed down vs Naruto and deva was powerless. He was seriously nerfed.

A fully powered 6paths of pain can defeat Itachi.

Anaterasu can be blocked by scapegoat summons or Deva Path, or even Preta Paths Shield.

Any dying paths will be brought back nigh instantly.

Hed have to watch out for rockets and ambushing pains with better vision than him(linked vision). Sequence has no blindspot.

Pains have genjutsu barriers and Nagato has mastered Genjutsu and Rinnegan.

Plus, depending on how the fight draws out he could get ambushed like Jiraiyah letting his gaurd down.

Also Susano'o wont last long, but several giant summons can occupy it while Preta weakens it severely, maybe even opening a hole while deva and asura covers him.

Itachi is extremely skilled so this is not an easy fight, but in my opinion Rinnegan comes out with the win.

 

[Yatori]

Pain wins this Genjutsu wouldn't work ninjutsu would be absorbed, you can't totsuka something that's not alive (I.E. a corpse.) Rinnegan > MS. Itachi has no way to counter there shared vision. Plus he lacks in the stamina department. So imma give this to pain.

This ^^ Pain is like 6 times stronger. I say Pain takes this.

 

[Punk Hazard]

restricted pain wouldn't use CT till deva is alone and he would be unable to ST until it recharges. so alive itachi should win.
edo itachi, is fast and more than enough chakra to intercept and destroy CT before it enlarges especially w/ SClones

The **** is "restricted Pein?" Plot bullshit don't fly in VS battles.

Itachi needed Naruto and Kirabi to destroy Chibaku Tensei. He's never shown anything capable of destroyingit on his own.

Secondly, that core of gravity is able to withstand the force of enough rock to make a giant meteor pressing down on top of it. If Itachi can produce enough force to destroy a formed Chibaku Tensei, how's he gonna destroy the gravity core that's withstanding all that rock Itachi can't destroy pressing down on it?

 

[Jokule67]

This ^^ Pain is like 6 times stronger. I say Pain takes this.

Nice to see some logic on this base.

Peeps act like genjutsuing a pain body means Nagato is also caught. Nagato is smarter than that and took down whole villlages with his Rinnegan.

 

[Jokule67]

The **** is "restricted Pein?" Plot bullshit don't fly in VS battles.

Itachi needed Naruto and Kirabi to destroy Chibaku Tensei. He's never shown anything capable of destroyingit on his own.

Secondly, that core of gravity is able to withstand the force of enough rock to make a giant meteor pressing down on top of it. If Itachi can produce enough force to destroy a formed Chibaku Tensei, how's he gonna destroy the gravity core that's withstanding all that rock Itachi can't destroy pressing down on it?

Forgot this also Chibaku Tensei>Susano'o. Itachi gets crushed.

 

[TillIFoundOut]

Itachi vs Pain?
Why are you comparing an ant with an elephant?

KA is not itachi's jutsu. For god sake,just move your head out of itachi's ass. It was shisui jutsu and it was meant to stop itachi if itachi had to turn against konoha.

Itachi can't use it against ANYONE.

You need 6 Itachis to win against 6 paths of pain.Period!

Lol Chill buddy I now believe that Pain beats Itach