Itachi vs Pain

[TheCopyNinja]

It's a throw up to me because ever sense Itachi as been introduced he has been dying so we dont know how much damage a HEALTHY and full powered Itachi can do, remember Itachi was always hated because he was stronger than everybody in Ataktski(or how ever you spell it) so it a toss up

 

[Nameer]

i did, beacuse fat pein burst into flames doesn't mean he can't asrob it also you should use the amateratsu from the manga not the game anyways

Actually I haven't played any Naruto game,when Amaterasu hits Pain,Pain will be done by it and even if what you said is true,Itachi will burn the others Pain,Preta path "The fat Pain" can't catch up with Amaterasu speed which is eye sight speed

well one may notice is that in pein's battles he likes to keep distance from his opponents

and what then???The God (Pain) keep running away???

can it kill who is already dead? also this it was also confirmed you can break genjutsu with someone else, also you never said anything to avoid the fact itachi normally only uses this MS technique (afraid to butcher name) once at a time, he never uses it more than once because it is too damaging to his eyes :| also itachi was almost out of chakra after using amateratsu and the MS genjutsu once, what makes you think he can use it 6 times!?

As I said before he didn't kill anyone by it because he is peaceful and just acting like enemy against konaha's Ninja,he murdered his own family for konoha sake for peace,when he cost it on kakashi,Kakashi was alomst dead by it but Itachi stopped it because he wasn't aiming to kill him even kakashi was wondering about Itachi didn't kill him.
as I said before it's godlike jutsu if there wasn't side effect,and yes it's required more chakra but Itach's chakra is high level not like Kakashi which is low-average chakra level,Itachi was dying and the disease was eating him from inside and he used many jutsus when he was fighting saskue,he used all his Mangekyo Sharingan jutsus "Amaterasu,Susanoo and Tsukuyomi" he used also others jutsus like shadow clone and katon,all that he was ill so that it's proved that Itachi is capably of using Mangekyo Sharingan for long time if he was healthy due to his high amont of chakra.

doodz look at his other ranged attacks

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For god sake just read my comments carefully,I have mentioned Demon realm before you.
Yes,he has long range attack as I said

o rly, you seem to forget \/ as you can see it clearly repeled a person

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Man that's Shinra Tensei jutsu,it's not long range attack it's close range, look carefully kakashi was attacking him closely when he used.

so? summons are amazing they can take hits (IE great clone explotion) and deal alot of damage

Itachi isn't stupid,he is smart he know how he used it wisely without losing it to a summoned creature and even Pain can't afford to lose his summons to an explosion clone.

 

[roflcopter]

Actually I haven't played any Naruto game,when Amaterasu hits Pain,Pain will be done by it and even if what you said is true,Itachi will burn the others Pain,Preta path "The fat Pain" can't catch up with Amaterasu speed which is eye sight speed




and what then???The God (Pain) keep running away???




As I said before he didn't kill anyone by it because he is peaceful and just acting like enemy against konaha's Ninja,he murdered his own family for konoha sake for peace,when he cost it on kakashi,Kakashi was alomst dead by it but Itachi stopped it because he wasn't aiming to kill him even kakashi was wondering about Itachi didn't kill him.
as I said before it's godlike jutsu if there wasn't side effect,and yes it's required more chakra but Itach's chakra is high level not like Kakashi which is low-average chakra level,Itachi was dying and the disease was eating him from inside and he used many jutsus when he was fighting saskue,he used all his Mangekyo Sharingan jutsus "Amaterasu,Susanoo and Tsukuyomi" he used also others jutsus like shadow clone and katon,all that he was ill so that it's proved that Itachi is capably of using Mangekyo Sharingan for long time if he was healthy due to his high amont of chakra.




For god sake just read my comments carefully,I have mentioned Demon realm before you.
Yes,he has long range attack as I said




Man that's Shinra Tensei jutsu,it's not long range attack it's close range, look carefully kakashi was attacking him closely when he used.




Itachi isn't stupid,he is smart he know how he used it wisely without losing it to a summoned creature and even Pain can't afford to lose his summons to an explosion clone.

Hey dude, ure not right. ITachi is weaker than Pein.

 

[sageofmyobokuzan]

As I said before he didn't kill anyone by it because he is peaceful and just acting like enemy against konaha's Ninja,he murdered his own family for konoha sake for peace,when he cost it on kakashi,Kakashi was alomst dead by it but Itachi stopped it because he wasn't aiming to kill him even kakashi was wondering about Itachi didn't kill him.
as I said before it's godlike jutsu if there wasn't side effect,and yes it's required more chakra but Itach's chakra is high level not like Kakashi which is low-average chakra level,Itachi was dying and the disease was eating him from inside and he used many jutsus when he was fighting saskue,he used all his Mangekyo Sharingan jutsus "Amaterasu,Susanoo and Tsukuyomi" he used also others jutsus like shadow clone and katon,all that he was ill so that it's proved that Itachi is capably of using Mangekyo Sharingan for long time if he was healthy due to his high amont of chakra.


Man that's Shinra Tensei jutsu,it's not long range attack it's close range, look carefully kakashi was attacking him closely when he used.




Itachi isn't stupid,he is smart he know how he used it wisely without losing it to a summoned creature and even Pain can't afford to lose his summons to an explosion clone.

actually kakashi doesnt have a low level chakra, it is actually quite high, the sharingan just forces him to use most of his chakra because he does not have uchiha blood.

and if shinra tensei is such a close range jutsu then explain this

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ya that was such a close range jutsu, it only reached to what 5 or 10 ft lmfao

and what about chibaku tensei?? its basically creating a small moon and then allowing the gravity and pressure from that to destroy the opponent coupled with that black hole at the center

 

[Nameer]

actually kakashi doesnt have a low level chakra, it is actually quite high, the sharingan just forces him to use most of his chakra because he does not have uchiha blood.

Kakashi said that his amount of chakra are not high and he said that naruto and Saskue have more amount of chakra more than him and that time where Saskue and Naruto 12 years old,I'm not compared Naruto to Kakashi I'm compared Saskue to Kakashi.
and here is another clear prove,when kakashi used his Mangekyo Sharingan he get exhausted even unable to move while Itachi used 3 kind of Mangekyo Sharingan jutsus and he was able to walk despite he was ill

and if shinra tensei is such a close range jutsu then explain this

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ya that was such a close range jutsu, it only reached to what 5 or 10 ft lmfao
and what about chibaku tensei?? its basically creating a small moon and then allowing the gravity and pressure from that to destroy the opponent coupled with that black hole at the center

that's is the ultimate Shinra Tensei which is carry high risk (shortened user life) and if you remember Nagato gathered the five pains and shut them off in order to focus at one body(Deva path) and while making it,it take a few seconds to charge it.
do you really think Pain will use it against one?and if he missed or his jutsu get blocked(most likely Susanoo) Deva path abilities will be disabled for a while and Deva path is the best pain among them.
normal Shinra Tensei are close rang and it take 5 seconds to recharge
and about chibaku tensei the answer is clear "Susanoo"
and btw chibaku tensei & large scale Shinra Tensei it carry high risk besides the amount of chakra it cost and make the user get exhausted (as we saw nagato),I'm not telling you that Susanoo hasn't risks to the user but it allow the user to continue fighting.

Edit: about kakashi,he has many jutsus and three elements but his amount of chakra was average so that he wasn't able to use some of them,as we see he always reach his limit after using a few justus.
Note:I'm Kakashi fan but what I'm telling is facts.

 

[Nameer]

Hey dude, ure not right. ITachi is weaker than Pein.

Any prove or Evidence???

 

[TOBI!]

Actually I haven't played any Naruto game,when Amaterasu hits Pain,Pain will be done by it and even if what you said is true,Itachi will burn the others Pain,Preta path "The fat Pain" can't catch up with Amaterasu speed which is eye sight speed

he doesn't need to if the other peins are behind him

and what then???The God (Pain) keep running away???

he could, afterall he did run from the 6 tails

As I said before he didn't kill anyone by it because he is peaceful and just acting like enemy against konaha's Ninja,he murdered his own family for konoha sake for peace,when he cost it on kakashi,Kakashi was alomst dead by it but Itachi stopped it because he wasn't aiming to kill him even kakashi was wondering about Itachi didn't kill him.

kewl only i don't see what this has to do with anything...

as I said before it's godlike jutsu if there wasn't side effect,and yes it's required more chakra but Itach's chakra is high level not like Kakashi which is low-average chakra level,Itachi was dying and the disease was eating him from inside and he used many jutsus when he was fighting saskue,he used all his Mangekyo Sharingan jutsus "Amaterasu,Susanoo and Tsukuyomi" he used also others jutsus like shadow clone and katon,all that he was ill so that it's proved that Itachi is capably of using Mangekyo Sharingan for long time if he was healthy due to his high amont of chakra.

well just because he is fighting pein doesn't mean he is magically cured of his illness, also he used it for a long time and ended up blind anyways.

For god sake just read my comments carefully,I have mentioned Demon realm before you.
Yes,he has long range attack as I said

but you said they were easily avoidable :|

Man that's Shinra Tensei jutsu,it's not long range attack it's close range,

and great clone explotion isnt? also i still say it isnt a short ranged attack :|

Itachi isn't stupid,he is smart he know how he used it wisely without losing it to a summoned creature and even Pain can't afford to lose his summons to an explosion clone.

i don't get it? what is "it" is and its not like the great clone explotion can kill a summoning in one hit :|

 

[izzy89]

This is just my speculation, but I think that Susanoo's only weakness is that it has a time limit......and for that move to be Itachi's most powerful technique, it HAS to have major consequences on the user...if Amateratsu & Tsukyomi have consequences, then Susanoo does to......and to the people saying Itachi/Pein can't use this tech or this tech as much/at all because it has high risks......look, if it comes down to it, then they are both going to use these techniques to the death. According to how things work in Naruto, Susanoo stays around Itachi. If Pein uses Chibaku Tensei in Itachi's general area then where is Itachi going to stand when all of the land around him(including the land he's standing on) begins to be lifted up into the sky??? I don't remember, but I think Itachi might be able to move with Susanoo around him, or was it because he was about to die and Susanoo started wearing off that he was able to move???

 

[Flaw]

Itachi ftw!!!!!!

 

[roflcopter]

Itachi ftw!!!!!!

Not* u mean?

 

[sageofmyobokuzan]

Kakashi said that his amount of chakra are not high and he said that naruto and Saskue have more amount of chakra more than him and that time where Saskue and Naruto 12 years old,I'm not compared Naruto to Kakashi I'm compared Saskue to Kakashi.
and here is another clear prove,when kakashi used his Mangekyo Sharingan he get exhausted even unable to move while Itachi used 3 kind of Mangekyo Sharingan jutsus and he was able to walk despite he was ill

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you basically just agreed with what i said, that the sharingan forces kakashi to use more of his chakra than he would have to without it. the reason his ms tech does that is bcause he is not an uchiha.

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itachi says it plainly there that non-uchiha's are not suited for use of the sharingan, kakashi also states that he is already exhausted bcause of the sharingan, not because of his jutsu.

and in regards to ur comment about pain, do u really think that chibaku tensei harms nagato more than suusano harms itachi???

 

[Nameer]

he doesn't need to if the other peins are behind him

Man Itachi's hand sealing speed is incredible even Kakashi & Saskue with their Sharingan can't catch up with them and Itachi's attacks are critical,attack without letting the opponent sense it till he hit them (except Saskue fight) as we saw the first fight between kakashi and Itachi.
and about the others Pain hide behind Preta path,how long they keep hiding?
Itachi is smart and expert,he know how to used it perfectly.

he could, afterall he did run from the 6 tails

looooooool
it seems that you don't know why Pain was running away from the Kuybi,I'll explain
Nagato is the source of Chakra and Pains are just dead bodies,Nagato used them as puppets he send his chakra to them to control them and fight by them.
Deva path was too far from his Chakra source so that his receiving to Nagato's chakra was not good enough to cost his jutsu "Chibaku Tensei" so that Deva path start heading toward Nagato's location to receive chakra perfectly to cost his jutsu against the kuybi.
Pain wasn't fleeing from the Kuybi,he was willing to challenge the Kuybi.

well just because he is fighting pein doesn't mean he is magically cured of his illness, also he used it for a long time and ended up blind anyways.

Every strong jutsu has side effect and about Mangekyo Sharingan it says if the user keep relying on it,it will weak his Eye sight and if keep using it with side effect the user will get blinded
Kakashi won't get side effect because he don't rely on it only if he was in bad situation and about Itachi I don't know how much his eye sight become bad but all I know what he said to Saskue was lies about his eye sight became weak and he need to take his brothers eyes to keep using Mangekyo Sharingan

but you said they were easily avoidable :|

Yes,it's easy to avoid if the opponent was expert like Kakashi,Naruto,Saskue....etc

and great clone explotion isnt? also i still say it isnt a short ranged attack :|

As you wish

i don't get it? what is "it" is and its not like the great clone explotion can kill a summoning in one hit :|

Depend on summoning creatures strength

 

[Nameer]

you basically just agreed with what i said, that the sharingan forces kakashi to use more of his chakra than he would have to without it. the reason his ms tech does that is bcause he is not an uchiha.

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itachi says it plainly there that non-uchiha's are not suited for use of the sharingan, kakashi also states that he is already exhausted bcause of the sharingan, not because of his jutsu.

and in regards to ur comment about pain, do u really think that chibaku tensei harms nagato more than suusano harms itachi???

You didn't read my comment carefully
I'm totally disagree and I'm not talking about Kakashi's Sharingan I'm talking about how much Chakra Kakashi has
I'm comparing Saskue amount of Chakra to kakashi amount of Chakra which Saskue has more chakra more than Kakashi
Kakashi's amount of chakra is average.
and about kakashi Sharingan,he can enable or disable the Sharingan by his method by hiding the Sharingan,as you see he always hiding do it.

about Itachi,when Itachi used Susanoo he was dying because of the disease not because of Susanoo,Susanoo allow the user to continue fighting it without letting him get exhausted so that Itachi has the advantage
it also carry high risk like drain the user life(I'm not sure about this) and drain more chakra.

 

[TOBI!]

Man Itachi's hand sealing speed is incredible even Kakashi & Saskue with their Sharingan can't catch up with them and Itachi's attacks are critical,attack without letting the opponent sense it till he hit them (except Saskue fight) as we saw the first fight between kakashi and Itachi.

kewl only wut does this have to do with anything again?

and about the others Pain hide behind Preta path,how long they keep hiding?
Itachi is smart and expert,he know how to used it perfectly.

and pein can block it perfectly im sure -_-"

looooooool
it seems that you don't know why Pain was running away from the Kuybi,I'll explain
Nagato is the source of Chakra and Pains are just dead bodies,Nagato used them as puppets he send his chakra to them to control them and fight by them.
Deva path was too far from his Chakra source so that his receiving to Nagato's chakra was not good enough to cost his jutsu "Chibaku Tensei" so that Deva path start heading toward Nagato's location to receive chakra perfectly to cost his jutsu against the kuybi.
Pain wasn't fleeing from the Kuybi,he was willing to challenge the Kuybi.

erm i kno this so wut says he wont do the same to susanoo ?

Every strong jutsu has side effect and about Mangekyo Sharingan it says if the user keep relying on it,it will weak his Eye sight and if keep using it with side effect the user will get blinded
Kakashi won't get side effect because he don't rely on it only if he was in bad situation and about Itachi I don't know how much his eye sight become bad but all

kewl only again i dont see what this has to do with anything, but kakashi is also losing his eyesight (go read match between fake itachi and kakashi during save garra arc)

I know what he said to Saskue was lies about his eye sight became weak and he need to take his brothers eyes to keep using Mangekyo Sharingan

doodz you could visably see he was blind in one eye during the fight he wasn't lieing

Yes,it's easy to avoid if the opponent was expert like Kakashi,Naruto,Saskue....etc

erm rite






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[Steinbiz]

why is this thread still alive. pain would use itachi as tissue paper....

 

[peaceful]

why is this thread still alive. pain would use itachi as tissue paper....

Because there are people who are not simple minded like you.

 

[roflcopter]

Because there are people who are not simple minded like you.

Yeah, those who believe that Susano'o can kill the whole world?

 

[Steinbiz]

Because there are people who are not simple minded like you.

seriously old man, stop talking to me. nobody else in this website wants to hear you LOL.

 

[shaolinchad]

Really it comes down to, what Itachi knows about pain. If Itachi knows what pain is and how he uses his bodies etc, then Itachi would the advantage. Information would decide the winner in this battle...









and plz don't judge Itachi's level when he fought his brother, he only had half his power...
meaning he is faster then you think!

 

[TOBI!]

seriously old man, stop talking to me. nobody else in this website wants to hear you LOL.

i want to hear him and peaceful has better insight than you so be quiet >.<