Itachi vs Nagato

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The eyes contain the Uchiha DNA. Otherwise he wouldn't be able to use Rinnegan or control the Mazo cause he wouldn't have Senju and Uchiha powers.
Like I said before, Kakashi is not an Uchiha. Nagato has the eyes, but has no integrated Uchiha DNA.

Since when can he seal a ball of gravity with Totsuka?
The sword possesses a powerful fūinjutsu. There's no reason it couldn't absorb an incarnation of chakra.

And by the time Amaterasu destroys the core Itachi will be trapped inside.
Itachi can survive inside for a time with Susano'o.

Itachi can't mask his chakra, Kabuto senses things through a snakes' natural traits, not through chakra:
Sage Kabuto uses sage sensing. Your link was prior to Kabuto achieving Sage Mode.

He was able to do that when Nagato was unable to attack him due to him taking care off Naruto and Bee. Nagato many summons, Itachi isn't going to blind all of them at once.
They can't see through the smoke. A clone-feint is completely possible.

Itachi will have to look the summons in the eyes then if what you're saying is true, and he can't do that when the summons will be at a safe enough distance from him and he can't fight looking at them when Nagato is right there constant;y pressuring him.
I think it's perfectly possible for Itachi to get close enough to a summon to look in its eye.
 

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The sword possesses a powerful fūinjutsu. There's no reason it couldn't absorb an incarnation of chakra.
The Sword has been shown to only seal actual beings not inanimate objects that aren't even alive, that's like saying he could seal a rock.

Itachi can survive inside for a time with Susano'o.
CT will finish forming by the time Amaterasu destroys the core.

Sage Kabuto uses sage sensing. Your link was prior to Kabuto achieving Sage Mode.
Kabuto was never stated to use Sage Sensing, it just says he uses the natural abilities he gets from snakes to evade the Uchiha Bro's Genjutsu and it lets him fight them without sight.


They can't see through the smoke. A clone-feint is completely possible.
They can either evade the clone or the bird can flap its wings and blow the smoke away.

I think it's perfectly possible for Itachi to get close enough to a summon to look in its eye.
Itachi can't reach the bird summon since he can't fly and that isn't happening with Nagato there, a Shinra Tensei will blow him away.
 

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The Sword has been shown to only seal actual beings not inanimate objects that aren't even alive, that's like saying he could seal a rock.
Are you saying the sword of Totsuka can't seal a rock? The fūinjutsu was stated to be very powerful.

CT will finish forming by the time Amaterasu destroys the core.
Without the core, there is no gravity, and the form would cease to exist.

Kabuto was never stated to use Sage Sensing, it just says he uses the natural abilities he gets from snakes to evade the Uchiha Bro's Genjutsu and it lets him fight them without sight.
No, look:

They can either evade the clone or the bird can flap its wings and blow the smoke away.
Regardless, the feint would only take a moment of blindness to execute.

Itachi can't reach the bird summon since he can't fly and that isn't happening with Nagato there, a Shinra Tensei will blow him away.
Itachi actually has a large bird summon himself:
 

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He didn't summon it in that page, but this is definitely a big-ass raven. Look at the cieling, look at how its wing extends to touch the base of the large stalagmite. It's not perspective, it's just a behemoth. Itachi most likely left it as a guard in the cave and summoned it off-panel.

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He didn't summon it in that page, but this is definitely a big-ass raven. Look at the cieling, look at how its wing extends to the large stalagmite. It's not perspective, it's just a behemoth. Itachi most likely left it as a guard in the cave.

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lolwut?

the crow seems half dead xd
and the height of the cave varies so it may seem the crow is big
 

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Yeah, but I've mastered basic punctuation so it evens out.
Some how i don't believe you, and btw when you debate try not to pull shit from your ass and keep it factual, master those basic's than talk to me about mastering shit lol
 
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Are you saying the sword of Totsuka can't seal a rock? The fūinjutsu was stated to be very powerful.
Yes I'm saying Totsuka can't seal a rock, that sounds foolish.


Without the core, there is no gravity, and the form would cease to exist.
It has to actually destroy the core first.

No, look:
His perception being upgraded gives him enhanced relfexes, not chakra sensing.

Regardless, the feint would only take a moment of blindness to execute.
If he manages to blind the summons momentarily, Nagato can can either call them back or just not look out of that summon's Rinnegan eye.

Itachi actually has a large bird summon himself:
Its not like it can take on Nagato's bird anyway.
 

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Nagato does not have the same usage of Gedō Mazō that Obito does, because Nagato is a not a genetic Rikudō. Summoning that creature is the reason he was crippled in the first place. Nagato also never showed the propensity to levitate his true body, only the Deva Path. Note, that doesn't mean he can't, but it's like theorizing that Itachi would use his super fast clone feints and hit Nagato with Amaterasu from his blindspot. It's just not in his character to do so. Anyway, Chibaku Tensei can potentially be destroyed by the Totsuka or Amaterasu now that Itachi has knowledge and can react immediately, and even if he didn't, he could potentially use Izanagi with his Tsukuyomi eye and surprise Nagato with a burst of Amaterasu. Heck, we're not even sure if Nagato is aware of Tsukuyomi, which could potentially defeat him seeing as how the databook states only an Uchiha can overcome the jutsu, and Nagato is not an Uchiha nor does he have access to the Uchiha aspects of the Rinnegan. Ultimately, Nagato's Rinnegan and Itachi's Mangekyō were constantly mentioned together, so I do not believe there to be a large disparity in their power, and if a small disparity exists, then it may not cover Nagato's relative physical and mental dullness compared to Itachi.
Hanzo crippled Nagato's leg with his explosive tags trap.
 

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What they helped him do was overpower Chibaku Tensei. Itachi defeated Nagato by himself. Perhaps if Nagato had allies, he would not have been defeated by the Totsuka.
What they did for him was not only overpower Chibaku Tensei, but give him time to remove Nagato's shared vision field, and enable him to sit back and watch for a bit.
 

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Of course Nagato takes this.
None of Itachi's attacks are able to hit him, due to the 6 paths power, while Itachi doesn't have any counters to Chibaku.

Itachi's offensive jutsu/Nagato's counters:
Amaterasu/Shinra Tensei
Genjutsu/All of Itachi's Genjutsu requires eye contact, or through his ring. Nagato knew Itachi for a long time, and being as experienced as he was, he'd know better than to look into the eyes of an Uchiha, and in Itachi's case, he'd probably just close his eyes. His sensory abilities would be agreat help in fighting Itachi's Genjutsu.
Fire Release/Preta Path, Shinra Tensei
Water Release/Preta Path, Shinra Tensei
Susanoo/Itachi's Susanoo was strong, but not strong enough to handle Nagato's attacks + Gedo Mazo + Animal Summons all at once, especially when we consider the fact that Itachi had below average stamina.
Taijutsu/ Human Path, Asura Path, Deva Path
Weapon techs/Asura Path, Deva Path

Itachi however, can't handle Chibaku, and would probably even lose to Nagato without him using the Chibaku Tensei, considering the fact that Nagato's attacks/defensive tehs are a very difficult matchup for Itachi

Nagato takes this, the only way Itachi is going to win is if he has enough teammates on his side, is extremely lucky, or somehow manages to surprise Nagato and catch him in a Genjutsu
 
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