Itachi vs Nagato
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Itachi can certainly win from a logical standpoint, and if written by Kishimoto, Itachi would certainly win from a narrative perspective. Compared to Itachi, Nagato holds little value to the plot and receives comparably little affection from the author. The common superificality seen is "Rinnegan > Mangekyō," but Nagato is not a true master of the Rinnegan, for the Rinnegan's true power contains that of the Mangekyō.
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Kishimoto knows Itachi can't beat Nagato by himself, that's why he had Bee and Naruto help Itachi beat him and vice versa.
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Had they not helped him with that Itachi would have lost, you can't say that he defeated him unless he got past that.
Had Itachi attacked Nagato instead of first rescuing, speaking to, and then rescuing Naruto and Bee again, then Nagato never would have had the opportunity to prepare Chibaku Tensei. There were advantages and disadvantages on both sides, and there were certainly other possibilities to counter Chibaku Tensei available to each combatant, which were unnecessary, because they could comfortably steamroll the jutsu together.
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Even if he took him down, it would have been due to him being busy with Naruto and Bee, in a fight where it starts off 1 on 1 with no outside interference, Nagato would take the win.
They each ambushed one another, and like Nagato, Itachi was busy with [rescuing] Naruto and Bee and disabling Nagato's summoned help. They then traded their best offenses. Nagato went first, and Itachi had help to defeat it. Then Itachi went, Nagato didn't have help, and was defeated by it. Personally, I believe Itachi to have the superior arsenal for one versus one matches over Nagato, and for Nagato to have a massive advantage in multi-ninja combat.
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Nagato never would have let him disable Shared Vision if he weren't busy with Bee and Naruto, and he never would have been able to attack Itachi like you say he could have if he weren't busy with Bee and Naruto.
As for Nagato losing to Itachi 1 on 1, I disagree.
Nagato can summon the Gedo Mazo to take care of Susanoo while he levitates up into the air, uses one big Shinra Tensei to hit Itachi's Susanoo from the back causing some major damage. (And by a Big Shinra Tensei, I mean the one he used to destroy Konoha).
Or once Itachi uses Susanoo and if he somehow manages to defeat the Mazo, he will resort to CT which will finish Itachi off.
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Was Nagato able to walk or wasn't he at the point where he was sealed? My impression is that he wasn't.
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Nagato does not have the same usage of Gedō Mazō that Obito does, because Nagato is a not a genetic Rikudō. Summoning that creature is the reason he was crippled in the first place. Nagato also never showed the propensity to levitate his true body, only the Deva Path. Note, that doesn't mean he can't, but it's like theorizing that Itachi would use his super fast clone feints and hit Nagato with Amaterasu from his blindspot. It's just not in his character to do so. Anyway, Chibaku Tensei can potentially be destroyed by the Totsuka or Amaterasu now that Itachi has knowledge and can react immediately, and even if he didn't, he could potentially use Izanagi with his Tsukuyomi eye and surprise Nagato with a burst of Amaterasu. Heck, we're not even sure if Nagato is aware of Tsukuyomi, which could potentially defeat him seeing as how the databook states only an Uchiha can overcome the jutsu, and Nagato is not an Uchiha nor does he have access to the Uchiha aspects of the Rinnegan. Ultimately, Nagato's Rinnegan and Itachi's Mangekyō were constantly mentioned together, so I do not believe there to be a large disparity in their power, and if a small disparity exists, then it may not cover Nagato's relative physical and mental dullness compared to Itachi.
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Using the Soul Dragon is what crippled Nagato, not the sole summoning of the Gedo Mazo. Nagato is the same kind of Rikudo Obito is Senju and Uchiha DNA (Nagato is from the Senju lineage and he has Uchiha DNA, Madara's eyes) Long range attacks are needed to break the core cause if he gets too close he will be pulled in quicker, and Amaterasu isn't doesn't have the firepower necessary destroy the core, hence Itachi not using it when he said "everyone use your strongest long range attacks to break it."
Nagato can sense Itachi's chakra so surprising him isn't going to work and his other summons can keep an eye on him with Shared Vision. Amaterasu can be absorbed via Preta Path as Nagato can tell when it is coming.
Shared Vision allows him to fight without looking into Itachi's eyes so Genjutsu won't work on him.
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The moment itachi seen nagatos powers he new he couldn't win alone, i mean you looking at a dude using meca armor ands about to snatch out the soul of 1 ninja and blow off the head of another ninja at the same time,that the reason itachi NEEDED bee and naruto to plus a million advantages just to get that one shot, buy hey i don't need to tell you this the story has already proved that itachi couldn't win alone,and btw nagato is a true master of the rinnegan,until proven otherwise hes by master beyond the levels of madara and obito,and can say that nagatos most likely mastered his rinnegan better than itachi has mastered his sharingan.
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I don't believe eye-transplants to be the same as DNA-integration. Kakashi is not an Uchiha because he has the Sharingan. That fact was made abundantly clear throughout part one.
This is not a bad thing if he aims to seal it with the Totsuka. And while the Magatama was stated to be his strongest long range attack, the damage over time effect of Amaterasu could be more effective if the option of blowing it clear away is not available here without Bee's support. Itachi can put Amaterasu on the orb immediately now that he has knowledge, and it could crumble after a handful of seconds from the intense heat. Before, he was observing the jutsu, which gave it time to protect itself with a thick layer of compressed rocks.
Itachi can mask his chakra from sensors. This is how he surprised Sage Kabuto twice despite Kabuto relying purely on his [very impressive] super-sensing ability.
Itachi's already shown the ability to evade shared vision and hit them and Nagato. With a sight-blocker such as a katon combined with a clone feint, or having a Susano'o arm smash the ground and throw up smoke and debris, there's no reason he couldn't do so again.
Shared vision multiplies the threat. The only requirement is that the eye be seen, which is why projecting the image of the eye on the moon would work, despite the moon itself not actually looking at anything. The visual image merely needs to reach the brain, and then it affects it. This is why Kakashi told Asuma and Kurenai to close their eyes, and always reminds people not to look Itachi in the eyes, despite Itachi being outnumbered, because it can affect everyone that sees it.
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The eyes contain the Uchiha DNA. Otherwise he wouldn't be able to use Rinnegan or control the Mazo cause he wouldn't have Senju and Uchiha powers.
Since when can he seal a ball of gravity with Totsuka? And by the time Amaterasu destroys the core Itachi will be trapped inside.
Itachi can't mask his chakra, Kabuto senses things through a snakes' natural traits, not through chakra:
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He was able to do that when Nagato was unable to attack him due to him taking care off Naruto and Bee. Nagato many summons, Itachi isn't going to blind all of them at once.
Itachi will have to look the summons in the eyes then if what you're saying is true, and he can't do that when the summons will be at a safe enough distance from him and he can't fight looking at them when Nagato is right there constant;y pressuring him.