Itachi vs Nagato(Once and For All)

Itachi vs Nagato

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there's not much strategy when you just pull someone toward you, or grow mechanical arms and shoot explosions at your enemies, or when you can just shinrei tensei a whole village away, or summon ridiculous strong monsters that basically only an S-class can defeat. can't you see, it's because of his rinnegan that he don't know real strategy.

and there wasn't much strategy in invading the village, all he did was alert them to their presence and then scattered to confuse them so he could do his search. oro entered the village by disguising himself, they did it their own way.
U think it's easy to confuse high level ninjas? the result speaks for them selfs Oro failed, Madara and Tobi with Kyuubi failed but a sick Nagato succeeded.
how's that?
Gedo mazo can suck souls up, Itachi will be no diff susano or no susano.
 
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U think it's easy to confuse high level ninjas? the result speaks for them selfs Oro failed, Madara and Tobi with Kyuubi failed but a sick Nagato succeeded.

Gedo mazo can suck souls up, Itachi will be no diff susano or no susano.
failed at what? if you are talking about entering the village, oro succeeded, and tobi knew very well he wasn't going to go unnoticed by summoning that huge fox.

but if you are talking about destroying the village, it doesn't take much strategy when you have a tech that could blow it away.

suck up souls? you are actually talking about that gedo mazo actually being summoned to connect to nagato so it can suck up itachi's soul, that would put nagato at great risk. he hasn't used that statue any other way, so do to the fact that he went crippled over that, I doubt he would have done that if he could use it another way.

that blade is way faster than that thing trying to suck up his soul, and it's not like itachi will just be watching him connect himself with gedo mazo, or he might so he can just seal nagato for being so stupid to summon and then can't even move while itachi CAN move while in susano'o and swing that sword faster that gedo can get him
 
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All I did was make a thread that showed a video were Itachi owned Deidara easily and somebody commented Nagato is better and it turned into a Itachi vs Nagato thread.Please just don't say Itachi or Nagato is better, use logical facts and heres mine

-If Nagato does Chibaku Tensai from Long Range Itachi is dead
-If Nagato looks at Itachi he's dead
-If Nagato gets cut by Itachi's Sasuno he's dead

Gedo Mazo is overrated.When Nagato summoned it, Hanzo easily escaped it so I'm sure Itachi could.He would have to win with Genjutsu because Nagato's ninjutsu is wayyy to strong.Itachi can easily use shadow clone and capture Nagato in a genjutsu.What makes genjutsu so strong is that you can't tell your in one unless you have a sharingan.Like Itachi did Deidara, he put him in a genjutsu from the beginning and Deidara thought he had the fight but he didn't. If he would of blew it up he would of killed himself.Itachi could easily do that to Nagato and he could kill himself.If Nagato had a Sharingan he would be stronger then Itachi since genjutsu wouldn't be a problem to him, but since the Rinnegan was given to him he can't upgrade like 1T>2T>3T>MS>EMS>Rinnegan.The Rinnegan is not immune to genjutsu so don't say that,if Nagato is cought in any genjutsu it's over.Just like he did Orochimaru,when he's in a genjutsu and he's paralyzed, just stab his ass.This battle is in favor of Itachi
okay, as for normal genjutsu RINNEGAN NO MATTER IF HE GOT IT FROM WHEREVER HE GOT IT IT IS THE RINNEGAN AND THE FACT IS THAT "IT'S NATURAL INSIGHT IS BETTER THAN SHARINGAN'S so yes Nagato can see through sharingan genjutsus. Proof of this, kakashi.

The theory of Rinnegan withstanding Tsukuyomi, sharingan genjutsu is an uncertain topic, it is not proven in the manga, but what supports this theory is that IF A SASUKE WITH HATRED AND ONLY 3 TOMOE SHARINGAN could break free, what stops us from thinking that a NAGATO WHO I BELIEVE HAS EVEN MORE PAIN AND HATRED THAN SASUKE AND OVER THAT HAS THE RINNEGAN WHICH IS 3 STEPS ABOVE THE 3 TOMOE...... THEN WHY NAGATO CAN'T BREAK FREE EITHER??...... There is a difference between frog song and tsukuyomi/sharingan genjutsus, and is that one is auditive and is not protected by the power of the rinnegan, but the other IS PROBABLY PROTECTED. Once again this is debatable

Yah Hanzo escaped pretty easy, BECAUSE HE USED TELEPORT JUTSU..... AS FAR AS I HAVE SEEN IN THE MANGA WHICH IS THE LAW..... I HAVEN'T SEEN ITACHI DO AT LEAST A SIMPLE SPACE TIME NINJUTSU SUCH AS SUMMONING JUTSUS. so this your reply to this is invalid.


PS: NO MATTER WHO WINS ITACHI, NAGATO AND MINATO ARE ON THE SAME LEAGUE..... I WOULD EVEN CONSIDER IT A ROCK, PAPER AND SCISSORS GAME.
 

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suck up souls? you are actually talking about that gedo mazo actually being summoned to connect to nagato so it can suck up itachi's soul, that would put nagato at great risk. he hasn't used that statue any other way, so do to the fact that he went crippled over that, I doubt he would have done that if he could use it another way.

that blade is way faster than that thing trying to suck up his soul, and it's not like itachi will just be watching him connect himself with gedo mazo, or he might so he can just seal nagato for being so stupid to summon and then can't even move while itachi CAN move while in susano'o and swing that sword faster that gedo can get him[/QUOTE]

you can say the same thing about Itachi, nagato might not let him use susano :) and or they might use both of them at the same time and see whose stronger :p and 1 thing, can Shinra tensai push susano if his really close? i think he can :p
 

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suck up souls? you are actually talking about that gedo mazo actually being summoned to connect to nagato so it can suck up itachi's soul, that would put nagato at great risk. he hasn't used that statue any other way, so do to the fact that he went crippled over that, I doubt he would have done that if he could use it another way.

that blade is way faster than that thing trying to suck up his soul, and it's not like itachi will just be watching him connect himself with gedo mazo, or he might so he can just seal nagato for being so stupid to summon and then can't even move while itachi CAN move while in susano'o and swing that sword faster that gedo can get him
you can say the same thing about Itachi, nagato might not let him use susano :) and or they might use both of them at the same time and see whose stronger :p and 1 thing, can Shinra tensai push susano if his really close? i think he can :p[/QUOTE]

one thing, itachi activated susano'o faster than the speed of light, when he fought sasuke, he used kirin on itachi. :)

and "you think" is really speculation, like I said, I won't guarantee a victory for either side, it could go either way.
 

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you can say the same thing about Itachi, nagato might not let him use susano :) and or they might use both of them at the same time and see whose stronger :p and 1 thing, can Shinra tensai push susano if his really close? i think he can :p
Yes he can, if you watch closely during deva path vs six tails naruto, you can see that in the part when they are in the water and deva does shinra tensei creating a vortex, if you watch closely you can see six tails kyuubi getting it's tails stuck in the ground so it doesn't get pushed back, and even then you can see how slow the kyuubi moves due to the intensity, now check out a susanoo which is like a person and can't get anything stuck in the ground to hold itself.

LIKE I SAID BEFORE THIS IS LIKE A ROCK PAPER SCISSORS GAME BETWEEN NAGATO ITACHI AND MINATO
 

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you can say the same thing about Itachi, nagato might not let him use susano :) and or they might use both of them at the same time and see whose stronger :p and 1 thing, can Shinra tensai push susano if his really close? i think he can :p
one thing, itachi activated susano'o faster than the speed of light, when he fought sasuke, he used kirin on itachi. :)

and "you think" is really speculation, like I said, I won't guarantee a victory for either side, it could go either way.[/QUOTE]

Yah true with kirin the technique so yah i guess ur right, the use of susano cant be stopped :p and yah they both good or very good.

Yes he can, if you watch closely during deva path vs six tails naruto, you can see that in the part when they are in the water and deva does shinra tensei creating a vortex, if you watch closely you can see six tails kyuubi getting it's tails stuck in the ground so it doesn't get pushed back, and even then you can see how slow the kyuubi moves due to the intensity, now check out a susanoo which is like a person and can't get anything stuck in the ground to hold itself.

LIKE I SAID BEFORE THIS IS LIKE A ROCK PAPER SCISSORS GAME BETWEEN NAGATO ITACHI AND MINATO
true either 1 can win and yah i remember the fight and poor susano doesn't have anything to hold on like u said. :p
 

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Yes he can, if you watch closely during deva path vs six tails naruto, you can see that in the part when they are in the water and deva does shinra tensei creating a vortex, if you watch closely you can see six tails kyuubi getting it's tails stuck in the ground so it doesn't get pushed back, and even then you can see how slow the kyuubi moves due to the intensity, now check out a susanoo which is like a person and can't get anything stuck in the ground to hold itself.

LIKE I SAID BEFORE THIS IS LIKE A ROCK PAPER SCISSORS GAME BETWEEN NAGATO ITACHI AND MINATO
though I disagree with so much in your 1st post, I do agree with your conclusion, that it could go either way
 
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b4 itachi,naruto and b fought nagato.
most people were sayin that amaterasu wont work bla bla bla susanoo wont and bla bla.
till the managa showed us that every attack did work blinding the spots of that thing also.
But in the end naruto and b did help wile itachi was the core to the attack.

So imo theyre somehow equal.
 
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If its the 6 paths, itachi loses.

If its healthy nagato vs itachi it can go either way, even though i fancy itachi to win.
The reason being nagato himself hasnt truly been in a fight, fighting as nagato therefore he doesnt have that life and death battle experience but also he hasnt truly trained his body since he has been more or less crippled for half his life.

Itachi has the skill, battle experience and speed against nagato who basically has raw power, the rennigan.

This fight can go either way because even if he activates susano he will get pulled out with banshou tennin. As we saw amaterasu was too fast for nagato to evade and not only did it get him it damaged him enough to start regenerating. If this wasnt an edo nagato, im not sure how he wouldve used shinra tensei to get amaterasu away from him and even if he does, in the end his injury would be severe.

Ill also say that as we say with healthy nagato, although he has regained his legs, he isnt really mobile enough and just like what happened to edo nagato, i believe the totsuka sword would get him again.

Anyway if its 6 path, itachi loses
If its healthy nagato, it can go either way although im leaning towards itachi
 

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okay, as for normal genjutsu RINNEGAN NO MATTER IF HE GOT IT FROM WHEREVER HE GOT IT IT IS THE RINNEGAN AND THE FACT IS THAT "IT'S NATURAL INSIGHT IS BETTER THAN SHARINGAN'S so yes Nagato can see through sharingan genjutsus. Proof of this, kakashi.

The theory of Rinnegan withstanding Tsukuyomi, sharingan genjutsu is an uncertain topic, it is not proven in the manga, but what supports this theory is that IF A SASUKE WITH HATRED AND ONLY 3 TOMOE SHARINGAN could break free, what stops us from thinking that a NAGATO WHO I BELIEVE HAS EVEN MORE PAIN AND HATRED THAN SASUKE AND OVER THAT HAS THE RINNEGAN WHICH IS 3 STEPS ABOVE THE 3 TOMOE...... THEN WHY NAGATO CAN'T BREAK FREE EITHER??...... There is a difference between frog song and tsukuyomi/sharingan genjutsus, and is that one is auditive and is not protected by the power of the rinnegan, but the other IS PROBABLY PROTECTED. Once again this is debatable

Yah Hanzo escaped pretty easy, BECAUSE HE USED TELEPORT JUTSU..... AS FAR AS I HAVE SEEN IN THE MANGA WHICH IS THE LAW..... I HAVEN'T SEEN ITACHI DO AT LEAST A SIMPLE SPACE TIME NINJUTSU SUCH AS SUMMONING JUTSUS. so this your reply to this is invalid.


PS: NO MATTER WHO WINS ITACHI, NAGATO AND MINATO ARE ON THE SAME LEAGUE..... I WOULD EVEN CONSIDER IT A ROCK, PAPER AND SCISSORS GAME.
Itachi stated that you needed the sharingan AND the same blood as him, is Nagato an uchiha? Answer is No he is an uzumaki, so that makes your reply invalid. :shrug:
 

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nagato would beat itachi. hes basically a walking uchiha counter. itachis tsukiyomi wouldnt effect nagato that much because nagato has a far superior dojutsu than itachis. rinnegan>ems>>ms. so yeah ms isnt even close to the rinnegan. amaterasu is either shinra tenseid or preta path absorbed. susano'o would be a problem but nothing nagato couldnt handle. nagato could use chibaku tensei and itachi wouldnt be able to break the ball by himself so he would die.
 
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nagato would beat itachi. hes basically a walking uchiha counter. itachis tsukiyomi wouldnt effect nagato that much because nagato has a far superior dojutsu than itachis. rinnegan>ems>>ms. so yeah ms isnt even close to the rinnegan. amaterasu is either shinra tenseid or preta path absorbed. susano'o would be a problem but nothing nagato couldnt handle. nagato could use chibaku tensei and itachi wouldnt be able to break the ball by himself so he would die.
How much do we know of the rinnegan>ems theory? not very much.... what we do know is that the ONLY way a person can get out of Itachi's tsukyonmi is by being the same blood as him, as Itachi stated himself. :flaw: Itachi is to overpowered and would defeat Nagato. :shrug:
 
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