Itachi vs Minato

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Apparently this is still a debate so...

Conditions: Itachi is Edo, Minato is Edo. A Sealing Squad is at ready to seal whoever loses
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Since it's full intel, it goes down to who has a faster draw. And Minato has speed on his side even in body flicker.
 

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Since it's full intel, it goes down to who has a faster draw. And Minato has speed on his side even in body flicker.

Once Itachi puts up Susano'O all of Minato's attacks become null
 

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Base Minato is already one of the fastest ninja, leaving even hokages in the dust. With his unmatched reflexive speed and Hiraishin, Itachi won't be able to keep up. Itachi can't use Susanoo for long, so he would be killed sooner or later since he has absolute no way to hit Minato. All his attacks could even be redirected at him with S/T barrier and thus Itachi would be killed in this case by his own attacks. Genjutsu has always been the main issue in arguments between these 2, but since i don't believe Itachi could keep up enough to put Minato in a genjutsu, i see base Minato winning. With KCM, he should even have much more power and speed, making this match a stomp
 

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All opinions just became void; Bogards on this thread and he will now explain why Minato>Itachi....
 

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Base Minato is already one of the fastest ninja, leaving even hokages in the dust. With his unmatched reflexive speed and Hiraishin, Itachi won't be able to keep up. Itachi can't use Susanoo for long, so he would be killed sooner or later since he has absolute no way to hit Minato. All his attacks could even be redirected at him with S/T barrier and thus Itachi would be killed in this case by his own attacks. Genjutsu has always been the main issue in arguments between these 2, but since i don't believe Itachi could keep up enough to put Minato in a genjutsu, i see base Minato winning. With KCM, he should even have much more power and speed, making this match a stomp

They're Edos
 

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They're Edos
Changes nothing. Edos have the same max chakra capacity they had when they were alive. Only difference is that the chakra regenerate faster than when they were alive. So after sometime keeping up Susanoo won't be possible even if he wanted since the chakra continuously would be running out until some point where the chakra would regenerate

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Changes nothing. Edos have the same max chakra capacity they had when they were alive. Only difference is that the chakra regenerate faster than when they were alive. So after sometime keeping up Susanoo won't be possible even if he wanted since the chakra continuously would be running out until some point where the chakra would regenerate

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Edo Tensei has nothing to do with their Chakra pools. Its their Knead/Release capabilities that stay the same. Here's an excert from one of my threads
Limitations

Edo Tensei Chakra:

When Madara was Freed from the Edo Tensei Covenant he Stated that Edo Tensei's have and Infinte Amount of Chakra. People have Taken this to mean that And Shinobi Resurected With Edo Tensei can Spam Jutsu's and make them much more powerful that they normally would.

This is False, While The Edo Tensei Bodies do have an unlimited amount of Resouces from which to make chakra they cannot Knead or release more chakra than there body could before resurection (or however much their body could in the state it was ressurected in.

I Base this on The Fact that Muu was incapable of Using Jinton after being split.
After Being Split the amount of chakra he could release/Knead was effectivly cut in half.

Further Proof on the fact that only a certain amount of chakra can be kneaded/Released by any certain person is proven by Naruto's Learning of the Rasengan. He had to Train his Chakra Ciculatory System to Knead more chakra and Also be able to release and sustain more chakra (the Second Step of the Training is an excellent example)


So In conclusion, Yes Edo Tensei Bodies have the Resouces to Continously Make Chakra, Yet the ninja Cannot Knead/Release more chakra than when they could in their life.

References:

Madara's Statement on Edo Tensei:


Muu's Edo Body Failing to use Jinton:


Naruto's Rasengan Training:





OT: Minato wins. With speculation, RM gives Minato Rasengan Variants similar to Naruto's, Speed Boost, and Chakra Branching.

With these upgrades, Minato can hammer at the back of Susano'O where theres less armor and the chakras thinner with Wakusei Rasengan or Rasengan Rendan. Chakra Branching also allows RM Naruto/Minato reach under Susano'O [ / ]

RM also allows Minato to effortlessly dodge anything Itachi has even without Hiriashin.
 
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Minato is clearly out of Itachi's league, and one see the manga and put his bias away
he should know that from the very beginning. Itachi is not even at Jiraiya's level, let alone
Minato's.

Edo or Not, RM or not Minato is just much stronger than Itachi. And for the Susanoo I can't
see what stops Minato from teleporting it to anywhere then attacking Itachi in a flash.
 

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Changes nothing. Edos have the same max chakra capacity they had when they were alive. Only difference is that the chakra regenerate faster than when they were alive. So after sometime keeping up Susanoo won't be possible even if he wanted since the chakra continuously would be running out until some point where the chakra would regenerate

Stop posting these fan posts, it isn't a thing confirmed by Kishimoto. Madar however said limitless chakra and not fast regenerating. So, Minato has no way in giving Itachi the fatal blow. Genjutsus are still the opportunity to paralyze him and to give him a fatal blow.
 

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Once Itachi puts up Susano'O all of Minato's attacks become null

Notice that I said on the draw. I personally believe that Minato lives up to his hype as being the fastest (was until Naruto beat him) ninja alive. And by that I mean the FASTEST. Faster than Guy going all out with his gates and faster than the what the Sharingan can track effectively, or at least, faster than Itachi's body reactions.
 

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The only thing Minato has shown us for his offense is still a basic Rasengan, not gonna cut it against Susanoo, especially when Itachi can use it indefinitely due to being an Edo.

Itachi wins.
 

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KCM Minato?

This has to be a joke. He stomps.
 

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Itachi wins

Minato still has no counter for genjutsu

& you gave Itachi KA
 

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Amaterasu solo's the sealing team. Minato can't seal him with 8 trigrams seal cause it only works of chakra, and RDS is a tie.
Long story short, the entire world is destroyed.
 

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Itachi wins

Minato still has no counter for genjutsu

& you gave Itachi KA

Itachi doesn't have Kotoamatsukami, it was inside Naruto the whole time and rigged to react to Itachi's eyes.


KCM Minato?

This has to be a joke. He stomps.

No he doesn't

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As it stands, its; Edo Minato > Edo Itachi > Healthy Itachi > Sick Itachi > Base Minato
 
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