Itachi vs Kimimaro, Orochimaru and Deidara

[Eternal Sage]

I can't tell if this post are serious or not. Hopefully they're troll post

^^^^Says deidara can beat Itachi, calls other people trolls

Also, 666th post :]

 

[Tarinth]

How does genjutsu not just solo all three right at once? He genjutsus all three. Then lights Kimmi
and Deidara on fire with amaterasu. Then, he opens up susanoo and seals Orochimaru right then
and there. There is nothing that shows that Orochimaru has become stronger against genjutsu.
Edo Tensei or not, unless he starts with them out, Orochi can't solo as he gets genjutsu'd before
he even claps his hands.

Itachi simply is the weakness of the two strong ones in the opposing team. It's still a high diff
fight even though Itachi beats them quickly though, simply because his eyes will be bleeding
greatly, he'll be even more blind, and he'll be exhausted. But he will have been victorious.

 

[blazekev90]

Lol you said Deidara can solo Itachi when he lost to Hebi and was forced to Kill himself. I wonder how he's beating someone who wasn't all out against Hebi Sasuke and yet still won. That alone isn't serious.

There's the fact that Oro admitted inferiority to Itachi. Zetsu isn't going to boost him to another level all of a sudden.

Sasuke's raiton was key factor for Sasuke's victory, something Itachi does not possess. So clearly Hebi=/=Itachi, thus making your comparison invalid.

Force? No, as Sasuke himself was unable to move towards the end of the fight, Deidara made the choice to act carelessly.

Orochimaru admitted inferiority in a weakened state. Regardless, we aren't focused on what statements are made, it's their feats.

Generally speaking Dediara COULD solo Itachi. He clearly has his own advantages, so given the situation he can solo.

 

[QdonEms]

genjutsu only solos deidara and orochimaru. amaterasu or totsuka ends kimimaro.

 

[Haizaki]

Sasuke's raiton was key factor for Sasuke's victory, something Itachi does not possess. So clearly Hebi=/=Itachi, thus making your comparison invalid.

No. Portrayal disagrees and so does feats. Amaterasu one shots him and there's no argument about that. Itachi's use of genjutsu as well plays a factor in this. Read my previous post where I explain much better. There's also the fact that none of his attacks has what it takes to get past Susanoo.

Force? No, as Sasuke himself was unable to move towards the end of the fight, Deidara made the choice to act carelessly.

He did. Deidara couldn't do anything and seeing he lost and couldn't do anything about it, he opted to blow himself up. Sasuke could still summon Manda afterwards and put him in a genjutsu . Sasuke won that fight and Itachi would do worse to him.

Orochimaru admitted inferiority in a weakened state. Regardless, we aren't focused on what statements are made, it's their feats.

His state had nothing to do with that

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. He said Itachi is stronger than him and going after him is a dream. Nothing suggested that was because of his state when even before that state, he still went for Sasuke. Even going by feats, Itachi wins.

Generally speaking Dediara COULD solo Itachi. He clearly has his own advantages, so given the situation he can solo.

Amaterasu one shots him. Feats to suggest he has what it takes to evade it or counter before he's hit? I guess not.

 

[naruto7861]

Loool itachi stomps no one on the other team can counter or break Tsukiyomi and no one can evade amaterasu and no one can break itachi's susano and no one on the other team is faster then itachi no one on the other team is smarter then itachi plz tell me how itachi will even get caught by any of thier attacks and not counter attack itachi has one shot arsenals let me just make up a scenario for fun

Itachi's hand seals are soo fast they won't see it coming itachi uses firstyle splits the team up in that fraction makes a clown and hides himself then amaterasu Diedara and kimmimaro and totsKa orachimaru or tsukuyomi followed by totsKa amaterasu beats clay bird dies along with Diedara or Kimmimaro's this all happens while his clone stalls for 5 or 10 sec


That's if et is restricted

 

[Tsunade123]

Restrict ET and Itachi wins

Without ET, kimimaro and deidara get instantly murdered by amaterasu, like Kifflom said. Without them, Orochimaru gets stomped for the third time vs Itachi XD

Nice sig of the game
And I think Itachi takes it deidra would be in a damn genjustu the entire fight he can pull izumi on oro kimmaro yea he's just irrelevant

 

[KazekageDaichi]

Deidara would probably be out of his field of view at the start of the fight. I'm not pretty sure about Kimimaro being one shot by amaterasu. Wasn't he able to cover himself with an outer bone layer?
I think that they could easily beat him coordinately at an appropiate time.

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

Itachi still wins this

--Kimimairo andd Deidara are tooo slow to counter amaterasu and get one-shotted by the flames with ease

--Deiddara can also get killed througgh Yasaka Magatama, and Kimimaro can also get stabbed by susanooo blade

--Oroochimaru gets one-shotted by tsukuyomi or any sharingan genjutsu is a nightamre for him and loses to him just like he did in canon,, totsuka can also finish him off and seal him away

-Are they? They each have a 4.5 in speed, which Sasuke had and ran from Amaterasu.

--Deidara dodged Gaara's sand, he's dodging Yasaka Magatama... if it can kill him if it does hit him, for that matter. Kimimaro dodged Gaara's sand and Lee, Totsuka isn't a problem.

--Orochimaru isn't dying and trying to trade bodies here so he has no reason to make eye contact. Snake sensing nullifies genjutsu.

Kimimaro's taijutsu is more than a match for Itachi, his bone forest can also be a real problem. Deidara's long-range fighting and mines pose a serious challenge for Itachi and he has no Raiton to counter Deidara's nano-bombs. Orochimaru uses his tricks and tenacity, which includes attacking from below and poison.

In summary: Itachi gets wrecked quickly.

 

[Mr Akatsuki]

I can't tell if this post are serious or not. Hopefully they're troll post

Here in NB, Itachi and Sasuke are God ..Don't forget

 

[Kooljay]

Itachi wins mid/high difficulty.

 

[Phonas]

Triple Tsukuyomi combo.

 

[naruto7861]

-Are they? They each have a 4.5 in speed, which Sasuke had and ran from Amaterasu.

--Deidara dodged Gaara's sand, he's dodging Yasaka Magatama... if it can kill him if it does hit him, for that matter. Kimimaro dodged Gaara's sand and Lee, Totsuka isn't a problem.

--Orochimaru isn't dying and trying to trade bodies here so he has no reason to make eye contact. Snake sensing nullifies genjutsu.

Kimimaro's taijutsu is more than a match for Itachi, his bone forest can also be a real problem. Deidara's long-range fighting and mines pose a serious challenge for Itachi and he has no Raiton to counter Deidara's nano-bombs. Orochimaru uses his tricks and tenacity, which includes attacking from below and poison.

In summary: Itachi gets wrecked quickly.

itachi wasn't Tring to kill Sasuke btw and no itachi wrecks

 

[Eternal Sage]

-Are they? They each have a 4.5 in speed, which Sasuke had and ran from Amaterasu.

--Deidara dodged Gaara's sand, he's dodging Yasaka Magatama... if it can kill him if it does hit him, for that matter. Kimimaro dodged Gaara's sand and Lee, Totsuka isn't a problem.

--Orochimaru isn't dying and trying to trade bodies here so he has no reason to make eye contact. Snake sensing nullifies genjutsu.

Kimimaro's taijutsu is more than a match for Itachi, his bone forest can also be a real problem. Deidara's long-range fighting and mines pose a serious challenge for Itachi and he has no Raiton to counter Deidara's nano-bombs. Orochimaru uses his tricks and tenacity, which includes attacking from below and poison.

In summary: Itachi gets wrecked quickly.

-itachi wasn't aiming for sasuke
-deidara dodges Yasaka magatama and gets amaterasu'd
-oro gets finger genjutsu'd
-kimimaro can't break yata mirror and gets burnt by Amaterasu if he goes for cqc

 

[Eternal Sage]

Nice sig of the game
And I think Itachi takes it deidra would be in a damn genjustu the entire fight he can pull izumi on oro kimmaro yea he's just irrelevant

Thanks, I paused a video and noticed that their pose and words were perfect

 

[ShinraTensei24]

Itachi can kill any of them, but not all together..

 

[Dave Stevenson]

Hahahaha wtf these jiraiya and itschi fans orochimaru shits on itachi

 

[ARGUS]

-Deidara's C1 bird puts him outside of the Amateratsu range. Nendo bunshins add to the fact he can't hit him with certainty, along with the fact he can hide inside the c1/c3. If Itachi starts with Amateratsu, then Kimimaro starts with bone forest which counters it since he can form from any of the thousands of bones.

Amaterasu ignites on whatever itachi can see, and with his sharingan he can locate deidara with ease, and can set deidara ablaze the moment he sets his eyes on him,

deidara is not evading the said range, because if he does get that far, then its him who would not even be able even locate him since unlike itachi he doesnt have the shraingan,, as this would most likely result in BFR,

Hiding in clay bird. and what good would this do to deidara????

Deidara is not setting up clay clones before he gets one-shotted with amatersau, not to mention that hhe has no sensing abilities to perceive amatearsu, and also lacks the speed to evade the flames

If Itachi starts with Amateratsu, then Kimimaro starts with bone forest which counters it since he can form from any of the thousands of bones.

He is still getting set on fire through amaterasu regardless of him forming extra bones, since he is still creating those bones from himself,

-Yasaka Magatama isn't hitting someone who casually outspeeds Gaara's sand, which easily has time to block Madara's Yasaka Magatama. Kimimaro isn't going to be in the range of Susano anyways. More so, Bone forest is an attack from below which hard counters Susano since Itachi will end up getting killed from below.

Itachi already countered Bone Forest which was enhanced by SM in canon, its not countering susanooo at all

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, here itachi can use 2 V2 slashes, to get rid of the bones with ease, Kimimaro is also not using dance of the seedling fern that quickly either,
and if Kimimaro does attempt to attack itachi from below, then he is just getting hit by amaterasu or getting put under a genjutsu through a clone feint, seeing how itachis sharingan precog can very easily track his movements,
and how is kimimaro not staying in the range of susanoo?? and still attacking itachi???
if he is not within the range for susanoo then itachi just sets him on fire with amaterasu, its as simple as that

-That's implying this is a one on one. Orochimaru was resisting his normal sharingan genjutsu, with two people helping him Itachi would never be able to take advantage of the genjutsu used.

Orochimaru was completely gone by a mere 3T genjutsu, he wasnt resisting it at all, and lost with ease,
the 2 people are not changing much, when orochimaru would get finished the moment he gets put under a genjutsu
he would also get one-shotted by totsuka just how he did in canon

In the case Tsukiyomi is used, Itachi's eyes will be affected badly due to the strain, and will be left vulnerable to attacks like bone bullets and a c1 bird explosion (unless you are claiming he will use his Tsukiyomi whilst inside the Susano, which is ever the more advantageous to a Bone forest attack, or a snake digging into the ground and blasting the Susano into the sky.

Lol, this has already been debunked, but ill provide a summary

--Deidara and Kimimaro are sitting ducks for amaterasu, and dont have any counters to it at all

--All 3 of these opponents can get finished by genjutsu,

--Bone forest is not countering susanoo at all, when 2 V2 susanoo slashes were all that was needed to eradicate a SM enhanced bone forest which is superior to kimimaros, meaning that the bone forest is not doing anything before it gets wrecked,

--Orochimaru is then getting taken out just how he did in canon, either through genjutsu or through totsuka

-Are they? They each have a 4.5 in speed, which Sasuke had and ran from Amaterasu.

Yes they are not evading it, when

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Sasuke running away from the flames is not helping you when it was clear that itachi didnt want to kill him in that fight
and bringing the data book stats means jack shit, when

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he is never dodging amaterasu, neither is kimimaro

--Deidara dodged Gaara's sand, he's dodging Yasaka Magatama... if it can kill him if it does hit him, for that matter. Kimimaro dodged Gaara's sand and Lee, Totsuka isn't a problem.

So?. they are still vulnearble to amatearsu which they have no counters to,

--Orochimaru isn't dying and trying to trade bodies here so he has no reason to make eye contact. Snake sensing nullifies genjutsu.

When he attacks, he needs eye contact,
he has shown zero genjutsu resistance feats, as shown against his fight against itachi and hebi sasuke,
he was also caught under a genjutsu without making any real contact against itachis eyes

@bOld - prove it, because it clearly didnt work out for orochimaru against itachi in canon,
as

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Kimimaro's taijutsu is more than a match for Itachi, his bone forest can also be a real problem.

Itachi evaded all of the attacks from Killer Bee, who is not only faster than kimimaro but also more skilled in taijutsu and kenjutsu,
Itachi can also easily track kimimaros movements meaning he gets caught under a genjutsu and allows itachi to finish him off, and as for Bone Forest, No, a

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Kimimaros weaker bone forest gets wrecked before it has any significance whatsoever

Deidara's long-range fighting and mines pose a serious challenge for Itachi and he has no Raiton to counter Deidara's nano-bombs.

Itachi can use his sharingan to locate him and then use amaterasu to set him ablaze, thats all,
deidara is not releasing his nano bombs before he gets hit with amaterasu,
and he is also vulnearble to genjutsu, and this time, would end up blowing himself up,
raiton is not needed at all,

Orochimaru uses his tricks and tenacity, which includes attacking from below and poison.

his tricks and tenacity are rendered useless by genjutsu, he gets overwhelmed the moment he gets caught under a genjutsu and loses just how he did in canon,
or itachi can just use the totsuka to seal him off thus rendering his tenacity useless

In summary: Itachi gets wrecked quickly.

No he doesnt, and i have provided more than enough reasoning above,

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

-itachi wasn't aiming for sasuke
-deidara dodges Yasaka magatama and gets amaterasu'd
-oro gets finger genjutsu'd
-kimimaro can't break yata mirror and gets burnt by Amaterasu if he goes for cqc

-Then why did he hit Sasuke?
-Amaterasu gets dodged to.
-Because that was going to work against Kabuto? Orochimaru can break genjutsu.
-Kimimaro can get around Yata. Amaterasu is a problem for him in cqc, although at that range Itachi puts himself in danger of getting burned too.

You should also be aware that, with all of this MS spam that Itachi is apparently forced to use, he will end up exhausting himself out and getting killed. Hell,needing Yata and Amaterasu against just Kimmimaro? That's about half his chakra to take down just one opponent.

Amaterasu ignites on whatever itachi can see, and with his sharingan he can locate deidara with ease, and can set deidara ablaze the moment he sets his eyes on him,

deidara is not evading the said range, because if he does get that far, then its him who would not even be able even locate him since unlike itachi he doesnt have the shraingan,, as this would most likely result in BFR,

Hiding in clay bird. and what good would this do to deidara????

Deidara is not setting up clay clones before he gets one-shotted with amatersau, not to mention that hhe has no sensing abilities to perceive amatearsu, and also lacks the speed to evade the flames


He is still getting set on fire through amaterasu regardless of him forming extra bones, since he is still creating those bones from himself,


Itachi already countered Bone Forest which was enhanced by SM in canon, its not countering susanooo at all

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, here itachi can use 2 V2 slashes, to get rid of the bones with ease, Kimimaro is also not using dance of the seedling fern that quickly either,
and if Kimimaro does attempt to attack itachi from below, then he is just getting hit by amaterasu or getting put under a genjutsu through a clone feint, seeing how itachis sharingan precog can very easily track his movements,
and how is kimimaro not staying in the range of susanoo?? and still attacking itachi???
if he is not within the range for susanoo then itachi just sets him on fire with amaterasu, its as simple as that


Orochimaru was completely gone by a mere 3T genjutsu, he wasnt resisting it at all, and lost with ease,
the 2 people are not changing much, when orochimaru would get finished the moment he gets put under a genjutsu
he would also get one-shotted by totsuka just how he did in canon


Lol, this has already been debunked, but ill provide a summary

--Deidara and Kimimaro are sitting ducks for amaterasu, and dont have any counters to it at all

--All 3 of these opponents can get finished by genjutsu,

--Bone forest is not countering susanoo at all, when 2 V2 susanoo slashes were all that was needed to eradicate a SM enhanced bone forest which is superior to kimimaros, meaning that the bone forest is not doing anything before it gets wrecked,

--Orochimaru is then getting taken out just how he did in canon, either through genjutsu or through totsuka


Yes they are not evading it, when

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Sasuke running away from the flames is not helping you when it was clear that itachi didnt want to kill him in that fight
and bringing the data book stats means jack shit, when

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he is never dodging amaterasu, neither is kimimaro


So?. they are still vulnearble to amatearsu which they have no counters to,


When he attacks, he needs eye contact,
he has shown zero genjutsu resistance feats, as shown against his fight against itachi and hebi sasuke,
he was also caught under a genjutsu without making any real contact against itachis eyes

@bOld - prove it, because it clearly didnt work out for orochimaru against itachi in canon,
as

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Itachi evaded all of the attacks from Killer Bee, who is not only faster than kimimaro but also more skilled in taijutsu and kenjutsu,
Itachi can also easily track kimimaros movements meaning he gets caught under a genjutsu and allows itachi to finish him off, and as for Bone Forest, No, a

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Kimimaros weaker bone forest gets wrecked before it has any significance whatsoever


Itachi can use his sharingan to locate him and then use amaterasu to set him ablaze, thats all,
deidara is not releasing his nano bombs before he gets hit with amaterasu,
and he is also vulnearble to genjutsu, and this time, would end up blowing himself up,
raiton is not needed at all,


his tricks and tenacity are rendered useless by genjutsu, he gets overwhelmed the moment he gets caught under a genjutsu and loses just how he did in canon,
or itachi can just use the totsuka to seal him off thus rendering his tenacity useless

No he doesnt, and i have provided more than enough reasoning above,

Amaterasu is a fireball. It has travel time and momentum.

What's BFR? Deidara does have a telescope, and if Itachi tries to hide then Deidara can blow up the obstacles, or just let Itachi hide while he uses his micro-bombs. Mines are also a problem and will get in Susanoo's vulnerable spot.

Hiding in his bird worked wonders for Deidara against Sasuke.

Kimimaro can discard those bones, like Ei discarded his arm. Then Itachi just wasted 1 of his roughly 5 MS uses and left himself a little weaker.

Kabuto used the Bone Forest to make an obstruction, he didn't use Bone Forest to attack Itachi's weak spot underneath Susanoo, Kimmiaro can. This also will not leave Kimmimaro vulnerable to either Amaterasu or genjutsu, and Kimimaro will still have to actually make eye contact for genjutsu to even work. lol at Sharingan precog, it only works against linear movements. Kimmimaro can can dodge Susanoo, he has a 4.5 in speed which seems to be the minimum requirement.

Orochimaru resisted a paralyzing genjutsu that Itachi put him under and was going to use a kai seal. Orochimaru was also forced to make eye contact for his soul transfer for some reason, as he does so against Sasuke and Genyuumaru as well. Here, Orochimaru isn't trying to trade bodies and he has snake sensing to shield himself.

-Deidara and Kimmiaro are not sitting ducks, and Itachi will be wasting what average chakra he has with all the spamming you want him to do.

-All 3 opponents know not to make eye contact. Orochimaru has snake sensing and Deidara trained himself to see through genjutsus. And if Itachi is trying to use genjutsu against one person he's left open to the other 2.

-Bone Forest springs up underneath Itachi and gives him a new hole.

-Orochimaru was trying to trade bodies the first time, the second time he was immobilized. He is neither here.

You're not helping your case when other opponents have shown to keep up with Ei, including Sasuke, Suigetsu, Madara, Bee, and others. His Lightning Armor also doesn't increase his speed, it increases his reflexes. It's also hilarious how you said he "just managed" to evade Amaterasu, when he looked very casual in doing so. Speaking of which, if you really think Amaterasu just appears on someone, then how was Ei able to dodge it? How did Gyuuki intercept it with it's tail? Not to mention that Amaterasu has tells, like how Itachi has to clench his eye shut for a few seconds before he can use it, or how blood runs down his cheek, or how sensors can detect a build-up of chakra. There are also two instances where the user makes handseal before using Amaterasu.
Yet Itachi still his Sasuke, which meant he WAS trying to.
Maybe you're right, mentioning the databook probably isn't a good thing if it hurts your argument.
Sasuke was fast enough to evade Amaterasu, and Deidara evaded Sasuke, so you are wrong. It's so hilarious how you, and others, actually think that Amaterasu is the Death Note... it's not. Hell, Tobirama saw Amaterasu before, yet it's not what killed him.

Orochimaru doesn't need to see to attack, since he can "see" heat and smell. Itachi's body heat and odor will be like a light in the darkness to him, just like a real snake.
Orochimaru showed to resist Itachi's paralyzing genjutsu and go to break it.
Who did you just say made no eye contact with Itachi and was still caught? Sasuke? Because he had Itachi under a genjutsu too.

Orochimaru seems to need eye contact to use his soul transfer, he did so against Genyuumaru, he did so against Itachi, and he shouldn't had been dumb enough to use it again against Sasuke unless he needed to. Also, when Kabuto started using Snake Sensing, Sasuke said to Itachi "He has all of Orochimaru's abilities!"
Do you know why Itachi severed Orochimaru's hand? Because it didn't completely overwhelm him and he was about to make a seal to break it, Itachi stopped him, which only happened because Itachi was a step away from Orochimaru. That also doesn't mean anything to Orochimaru since he can reattach body parts and grow new ones.

How do you know he's faster than Kimmiaro, or more skilled in taijutsu and kenjutsu? And all Itachi did was avoid and evade and wasn't able to gain an advantage, he was forced to fall back.
Sharingan only seems able to track linear movements, and Kimimaro has to make eye contact with Itachi for genjutsu to even be an option. Kabuto only surrounded Itachi with Bone Forest, Kimmimaro tears Itachi a new one. I also don't understand how Senjutsu-enhanced Bone Forest was even cut down so handily, for that matter, it makes no sense.

Except he can't just set Deidara ablaze, Deidara will see a fireball coming at him just as Ei and Gyuuki did and move out of the way. Deidara has a resistance to genjutsu, and resisted Sasuke's first genjutsu and almost killed him when Sasuke thought it worked, Itachi in that position would be dead since he has no Raiton.

Genjutsu has to work first, which requires Orochimaru to stare into Itachi's eyes. Totsuka would have to hit Orochimaru, and this time Orochimaru isn't an armless disembodied spirit with almost no chakra stuck to a growth on Sasuke's neck, he's also aware of what Totsuka is.

Yes he does, and I have provided more than enough reasoning above. Hell, how much MS does Itachi have to spam just to defeat one opponent in your analysis? By the time he faces the last one, he'll be falling over from exhaustion and gets killed, if he's not already too weakened by the time he kills the first one. You also seem to assume that all three opponents are just Genin compared to Itachi, but they are clearly not. Kimimaro jimself is at least Jonin level, while the other two are Kage level.

 

[Unorthodox]

Itachi wins...