Itachi vs 6 Pains

[Trúth]

I see. So the Rinnegan isn't immune to visual genjutsu after all.

I guess it'd have to depend on the user. Whether they could master genjutsu themselves and learn to break other powerful genjutsu.


Nagato was able to place several genjutsu blocks on the inhabitants of the Hidden Rain so I suppose he's proficient in genjutsu. Not on the level of Itachi though.

If Nagato stops pouring chakra into one of the paths, won't the genjutsu break though? Since that body will technically "die" again.

Nope, it's not.

He isn't breaking a genjutsu he's unaware of. U_U

Obviously not anywhere near Itachi's level.

If that worked then why not do it against Jiraiya? Another point is if he does that, then the Pains are simply sitting ducks.

He loses plain and simple.​

 

[Dannie]

Itachi is slower than Pain

No he's not.

 

[~Kami no Itachi~]

Itachi > 6 paths of fodder

hell, Itachi > 6 paths of fodder w/ healthy Nagato

6 paths of fodder will not keep up to Itachi's speed let alone his genius

HAHA laughable haters

Itachi's thinking is faster than all of shinobi

this sad sacks underestimating him HAHA

 

[The Legendary Noob]

He doesn't get caught. Yaska negs the shit out of it, well before it gets to a size where more fire power is needed.​

Nothing you posted was true.
> Genjutsu works on the Paths.
> He has more than enough power to Amaterasu four pains. He easily set a forest on fire.​

Simply not true at all, especially with genjutsu added into the mix.​

In other words, you've lost. U_U​

You are a ****ing moron.​

4 Pains have no counter to Amaterasu. U_U​

First part tells me you've never read the Jiraiya vs. Pain fight. Second part is nothing but a lie, that you unfortunately believe.

@bold Oh. My. God. So. False.​

I can't facepalm enough.​

ahh, what's this?
an obvious itachi fanboy who is in denial? let's see what he posted!

>says he won't get crushed under CT, but itachi begged for naruto and bee's help to destroy the CT before getting crushed, lol
>Visual** Genjutsu doesn't work on the paths, lol, and iirc, he didn't even use 2 Amaterasu in the Sasuke fight so that's his Limit.
**keep in mind that when edo, your chakra replenishes extremely fast so Edo Itachi could use Multiple Amaterasu without any restrictions
>yeah, that's exactly how itachi didn't get stabbed and cut in half by kabuto XD
>assumes just because i skim an obvious fanboy-in-denial post i've lost, lol!

and then the rest of the posts, you got tired and gave no explanation to your disagreement
why do you even try?

i think you know Itachi loses but you just try to post ignorance just to be seen by others as a Itachi fanboy

 

[Conspirator.]

Pain wins mid diff.

 

[Trúth]

ahh, what's this?
an obvious itachi fanboy who is in denial? let's see what he posted!

Nah it's just your worst enemy, someone with more than half a brain in their skull.​

>says he won't get crushed under CT, but itachi begged for naruto and bee's help to destroy the CT before getting crushed, lol

Yaska destroys it before it's a threat.​

>Visual** Genjutsu doesn't work on the paths, lol, and iirc, he didn't even use 2 Amaterasu in the Sasuke fight so that's his Limit.

@Bold try posting something true. It'll help U_U

@ Rest of that shit.

Spoiler

Itachi had his susano'o activated for over an entire chapter after already exhausting himself. Not to mention that was when he was terminally ill, which isn't the case in most scenarios you'll find on NB. If you want the entire rundown on his chakra capacity, then read for yourself. It isn't by any means low.


> Before his battle with Sasuke Itachi sent out two Karasu Bunshins [Crow Clones] to meet both Sasuke and Naruto [

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> Itachi, not taking Sasuke serious yet, used genjutsu three times in a row as the fight commensed [

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> Itachi then used another Karasu Bunshin [

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> Used one his chakra taxing MS techniques, Tsukiyomi [

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> Used the Katon: Gōkakyū no Jutsu [Fire Release: Grand Fireball technique] not once, but twice in a row [

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> Itachi then proceeded to use his second MS technique, Amaterasu [

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] to only follow back up with using it again, in quite an alarming succession [

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] which practically lit up the entire Uchiha hideout [

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> Shortly after straining himself by using Amaterasu twice in a row, Itachi is forced to throw up his third and final MS technique, Susano'o, in order to protect himself from the destructive power of Sasukes' kirin [

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> Itachi decided to throw up the final version of his susano'o armed with the two legendary weapons [

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] and then proceeded to battle Orochimaru's biggest transformation, Hydra, and sealed it away [

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]. Overall, Itachi had his susano'o activated for more then an entire chapter before collapsing; which should stand for more or less 4-5 minutes.


> And to top it all off, while Itachi had already overly exhausted himself, he still managed to use a transcription seal [fuinjutsu] and sealed away one last Amaterasu within Sasuke [

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>yeah, that's exactly how itachi didn't get stabbed and cut in half by kabuto XD
>assumes just because i skim an obvious fanboy-in-denial post i've lost, lol!

No kind of argument put up here. You've lost.​

and then the rest of the posts, you got tired and gave no explanation to your disagreement
why do you even try?

What?​

i think you know Itachi loses but you just try to post ignorance just to be seen by others as a Itachi fanboy

And I think you're stupid. We're all entitled to our opinions.​

 

[Lord Tywin]

Pain takes it.
-Amaterasu gets countered by preta path. Rinnegan users can see the chakra building up.
-How the hell is genjutsu going to affect a path's body? Visual connection counters it. Itachi can't use Tsukoyomi more than 2 times. If he lands it, then other paths will keep Itachi busy while one path gets the affected path out of genjutsu.
-Susanoo got jack on CT. Its core isn't something to be put under genjutsu, something that Totsuka does if it stabs its target. Yata is useless here. Itachi has to keep yata up or he would get crushed by incoming rocks.

 

[The Legendary Noob]

If I 'highly overestimated' Itachi then I would be like most of the fanboys in this thread screaming that he negs with no difficulty.

If anything, you're not looking at how smart Itachi can be in battle.

And since when has Pain displayed being smart in battle? Last I checked, the only thing he could do was use Rinnegan and create big rocks. If you're implying that Pain is smart, he is not smarter than Itachi in battle and that is fact. I can bring many panels of Itachi showing his quick wits while you can struggle with trying to find at least 1 or 2 of Pain.

I said that Pain can beat Itachi with medium struggle so Ii fail to see how I overestimated Itachi.

Read my post better or don't reply.

if you've been reading the manga, you'd realize that pain is smart...
>he used three paths as distractions and cause havoc in Konoha as the other three went in and gathered information and succeeded in finding where Naruto was located
>when he found out konoha found out too much info about himself, Deva just nuked Konoha
>when fighting, he fights in formations that allow Deva to regain his powers and keep Naraka path safe

and if you haven't noticed, while he was in konoha, he was heavily restricted

i can say pain is pretty analytial, smart, and knows what he's doing
"all pain can do is use rinnegan and make big rocks" is false, lol

Nah it's just your worst enemy, someone with more than half a brain in their skull.​

Yaska destroys it before it's a threat.​

@Bold try posting something true. It'll help U_U

@ Rest of that shit.

Spoiler

Itachi had his susano'o activated for over an entire chapter after already exhausting himself. Not to mention that was when he was terminally ill, which isn't the case in most scenarios you'll find on NB. If you want the entire rundown on his chakra capacity, then read for yourself. It isn't by any means low.


> Before his battle with Sasuke Itachi sent out two Karasu Bunshins [Crow Clones] to meet both Sasuke and Naruto [

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> Itachi, not taking Sasuke serious yet, used genjutsu three times in a row as the fight commensed [

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> Itachi then used another Karasu Bunshin [

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], followed by a shunshin blitz [

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> Used one his chakra taxing MS techniques, Tsukiyomi [

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> Used the Katon: Gōkakyū no Jutsu [Fire Release: Grand Fireball technique] not once, but twice in a row [

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> Itachi then proceeded to use his second MS technique, Amaterasu [

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] to only follow back up with using it again, in quite an alarming succession [

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] which practically lit up the entire Uchiha hideout [

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].


> Shortly after straining himself by using Amaterasu twice in a row, Itachi is forced to throw up his third and final MS technique, Susano'o, in order to protect himself from the destructive power of Sasukes' kirin [

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> Itachi decided to throw up the final version of his susano'o armed with the two legendary weapons [

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] and then proceeded to battle Orochimaru's biggest transformation, Hydra, and sealed it away [

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]. Overall, Itachi had his susano'o activated for more then an entire chapter before collapsing; which should stand for more or less 4-5 minutes.


> And to top it all off, while Itachi had already overly exhausted himself, he still managed to use a transcription seal [fuinjutsu] and sealed away one last Amaterasu within Sasuke [

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No kind of argument put up here. You've lost.​

What?​

And I think you're stupid. We're all entitled to our opinions.​

you didn't say anything but admit that itachi's stamina is ass and he could only use one of each of his Mangekyo abilities before being drained, lol

so itachi can only use 3 Clones, 3 Fodder Genjutsu, 2 Fireball, 1 Tsukuyomi, 1 Amaterasu, and Susano'o and then he's pretty much dead, that's pathetic.

that's definitely not enough to defend against/go up against the Paths

and i like how you declare you've won in debates...
...when all you've said were Itachi's abilities and haven't acknowledged pain's

 

[Trúth]

you didn't say anything but admit that itachi's stamina is ass and he could only use one of each of his Mangekyo abilities before being drained, lol

Someone is lacking in reading comprehension skills.​

so itachi can only use 3 Clones, 3 Fodder Genjutsu, 2 Fireball, 1 Tsukuyomi, 1 Amaterasu, and Susano'o and then he's pretty much dead, that's pathetic. you're going to need more than that if your'e going up against the paths

All of which is far more than enough for Pain. Every tree in this forest is larger than a Path.

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and i like how you declare you've won in debates...
...when all you've said were Itachi's abilities and haven't acknowledged pain's

Only when I win. U_U

- 4 Pains lose to Amaterasu
- Any animal summons are swiftly taken out by genjutsu
- CT is destroyed before it's even a threat.
- Deva and Preta don't have the speed or skill to keep up with Itachi especially with genjutsu thrown into the mix.

In short, Pains abilities are irrelevant.​

 

[The Legendary Noob]

Someone is lacking in reading comprehension skills.​

All of which is far more than enough for Pain. Every tree in this forest is larger than a Path.

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Only when I win. U_U

- 4 Pains lose to Amaterasu
- Any animal summons are swiftly taken out by genjutsu
- CT is destroyed before it's even a threat.
- Deva and Preta don't have the speed or skill to keep up with Itachi especially with genjutsu thrown into the mix.

In short, Pains abilities are irrelevant.​

/sigh
all you're going to say is "itachi has this ability and can do this" and you'll keep saying the same thing even though you were just proven wrong. you won't even acknowledge the other side of the arguement.

i honestly thought you were smarter than that
you post in smarty fonts and carry yourself like you're intelligent but you're nothing more than just an ignorant itachi fanboy who's still in denial. it's no fun debating with you

i'll just wait until dannie quotes me again,
i know i can actually have a good debate w/ someone like that, maybe you should take notes

you're dismissed

Pain takes it.
-Amaterasu gets countered by preta path. Rinnegan users can see the chakra building up.
-How the hell is genjutsu going to affect a path's body? Visual connection counters it. Itachi can't use Tsukoyomi more than 2 times. If he lands it, then other paths will keep Itachi busy while one path gets the affected path out of genjutsu.
-Susanoo got jack on CT. Its core isn't something to be put under genjutsu, something that Totsuka does if it stabs its target. Yata is useless here. Itachi has to keep yata up or he would get crushed by incoming rocks.

how could you use genjutsu on dead bodies who don't have active brains for the visual genjutsu to work?

 

[Lord Tywin]

All of which is far more than enough for Pain. Every tree in this forest is larger than a Path.

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Only when I win. U_U​

- 4 Pains lose to Amaterasu
- Any animal summons are swiftly taken out by genjutsu
- CT is destroyed before it's even a threat.
- Deva and Preta don't have the speed or skill to keep up with Itachi especially with genjutsu thrown into the mix.

In short, Pains abilities are irrelevant.​

Lol at that second sentence. Shit can't be more ridiculous.

Amaterasu gets absorbed by preta path. Their formation is with preta path in the front. He sees amaterasu coming and absorbs it.
How many times can he use Genjutsu? Lol he's done after 2. I'm tempted to say animal path alone takes it.
Did you see what it took to take out a small CT orb? Let me refresh your memory

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A bijuu bomb, rasenshuriken, and magtamas. Both FRS and BB are far more destructive than those magtamas. Lol magtamas couldn't even tear through tsunade. Also the fact that the orb gets bigger every second.
Taijutsu is irrelevant. Shinra Tensei pastes Itachi.
Genjutsu is irrelevant against the paths if it's not a mass effecting genjutsu like Jiraiya's. One path gets caught in genjutsu then a couple more will distract Itachi while the one path gets the affected path out of genjutsu.

In short, Itachi gets countered left and right.

 

[Omar19992010]

He doesn't get caught. Yaska negs the shit out of it, well before it gets to a size where more fire power is needed.​

Nothing you posted was true.
> Genjutsu works on the Paths.
> He has more than enough power to Amaterasu four pains. He easily set a forest on fire.​

Simply not true at all, especially with genjutsu added into the mix.​

In other words, you've lost. U_U​

You are a ****ing moron.​

4 Pains have no counter to Amaterasu. U_U​

First part tells me you've never read the Jiraiya vs. Pain fight. Second part is nothing but a lie, that you unfortunately believe.

@bold Oh. My. God. So. False.​

I can't facepalm enough.​

How am I a Moron? It took a Rasen Shuriken, Yasaka Magtama and a Bijuu Dama to destroy a CT in the process of forming. Itachi doesn't have the fire power to take out CT

If any of the Paths get hit by Amaterasu which I doubt will happen due to the fact that the Rinnegan can feel the build up to Jutsu's and even if any of the paths get hit Amaterasu burns too slow which means Preta Path can just go over to any of the paths and absorb Amaterasu

Maybe if you read my post I said Visual Genjutsu which is pretty much any Sharingan Genjutsu. Jiraiya used Frog Song which isn't Visual Genjutsu. It was confirmed in the Databook plus The Six Paths of Pain are just puppets. In CQC Itachi gets hit with Massive scale ST even though I doubt Pain would have to resort to it. He would get overwhelmed with Missiles and Lasers, Summonings and Pain trying to Soul rip him.

Itachi has no chance at winning this.

 

[Esdez]

Pain shitstomps itachi so hard that it's not even funny. These butthurt Itachi fappers should just gtfo

 

[Trúth]

/sigh
all you're going to say are "itachi has this ability and can do this" and you'll keep saying the same thing even though you were just proven wrong. you won't even acknowledge the other side of the arguement.

It would be nice if you actually proved anything I said false, at any point.​

i thought you were smarter than what you've shown me right now,

Luckily for me I didn't make the same mistake. You've never shown a hint of intelligence Scrafty.​

it's no fun debating with you

I wouldn't call it a debate. That would imply that valid arguments were made from both sides.​

i'll just wait until dannie quotes me again, she's obv smarter and a better debater than you

1. Dannie's a guy.
2. maybe he is, couldn't care less tbh.​

g'night, you're dismissed

@bold That's my line, get your own. U_U​

 

[Zealous Sparks]

With full intel, Itachi would first start off by trying to take out the Naraka Path as he knows that takes away Nagato's ability to restore the Paths. He'd need a relatively quick attack to do this, so I'd assume Itachi would use an Amaterasu to take that out first despite the toll it takes on him; however, Nagato has been shown to sense the chakra build-up for Amaterasu. Amaterasu would render the Naraka Path useless before the Preta Path could get there to absorb the flames.

The Animal Path's multiple summonings would prove difficult for Itachi. Jiraiya stated that the summons were used as a means to confuse an opponent and to hide his location [

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]. Itachi could keep track of the Paths/summons with the Sharingan’s precognition and ability to see chakra, though the location also plays a role. He could easily take them out with Susano'o via Totsuka/Yasaka Magatama or Amaterasu, but again the chakra tax of these techniques plays a role on how he would use them. Itachi could also try to find a way around the summons and destroy the Animal Path, thus dispersing the summons. Itachi's crows in a swarm may be able to distract the summons temporarily or he could use Crow Clones or Kage Bunshins for feints.

Itachi has better CQC than the Pain Paths as the Paths had trouble against SM Naruto [

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], and Itachi matched KCM Naruto in Taijutsu; the most trouble he would have is against Deva or fighting multiple paths at a time. Itachi was able to dodge Bee's seven sword attacks with only the 3T Sharingan, so fighting off hand-to-hand attacks from multiple directions is well within Itachi's capability. Sasuke was able to hit Itachi with a windmill shuriken in the leg during their battle due to his deteriorating vision. If Pain lands a blow with one of the chakra rods, Itachi’s chakra will be disrupted, and he will be bound by the Outer Path giving Pain an opening.

Again, with intel, Itachi won't needlessly use Katon or Suiton techniques as he knows they can be easily absorbed by the Preta Path. He'll only use ninjutsu as a distraction or if the Preta Path is taken down.

Itachi will try to stay out of the way of Human Path as much as possible. A Bansho Tenin + Human Path combo could prove deadly, but seeing how fast Itachi was able to summon a Susano'o arm to block Sasuke's own [

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], he could use BT's pull to his advantage and take out either the Human Path waiting to grab him or the Deva casting the technique. As seen with his fight against Kakashi, Pain sacrificed the Asura Path to save the Deva Path, so the same could be said for the Human Path in this scenario.

Itachi's speed would allow him to dodge projectiles from the Asura Path, and perhaps attempt to use an Exploding Clone to destroy it.

Itachi would have the biggest trouble against the Deva Path. Itachi would surely use Susano'o to defend against the higher powered ST considering one was able to KO all three of Naruto's boss summons at once. Pain would use Chibaku Tensei to end the fight if it goes this far. Considering that he wouldn't have had to expend as much chakra as he did in the fight with SM Naruto + Konoha + 4/6 Tailed Naruto, Pain would be able to make a larger Chibaku Tensei. The only problem is that Nagato has to have Deva come within a certain range of his real body's location in order to utilize CT [

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Contrary to belief, the Rinnegan is not immune to visual genjutsu. That was just someone spreading false translations. Jiraiya was able to use a paralysis genjutsu on three of the Paths at once [

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]. This genjutsu, however, is effective within the area of a barrier, thus not giving a chance for it to be broken in either of the normal ways while the barrier is up. That's not the case with Itachi's genjutsu. Nagato, who has massive reserves of chakra and a sensor can identify which of the Paths is under genjutsu with the Rinnegan’s linked vision and ability to perceive chakra, can disrupt the genjutsu with a surge of chakra or by shutting off the chakra transmission to that specific path and reactivating it; this leaves an opening for an attack by Itachi.

All in all, if Pain stays back for the fight, he can wear down Itachi with his superior chakra reserves and finish him off.

 

[The Legendary Noob]

Lol at that second sentence. Shit can't be more ridiculous.

Amaterasu gets absorbed by preta path. Their formation is with preta path in the front. He sees amaterasu coming and absorbs it.
How many times can he use Genjutsu? Lol he's done after 2. I'm tempted to say animal path alone takes it.
Did you see what it took to take out a small CT orb? Let me refresh your memory

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A bijuu bomb, rasenshuriken, and magtamas. Both FRS and BB are far more destructive than those magtamas. Lol magtamas couldn't even tear through tsunade. Also the fact that the orb gets bigger every second.
Taijutsu is irrelevant. Shinra Tensei pastes Itachi.
Genjutsu is irrelevant against the paths if it's not a mass effecting genjutsu like Jiraiya's. One path gets caught in genjutsu then a couple more will distract Itachi while the one path gets the affected path out of genjutsu.

In short, Itachi gets countered left and right.

How am I a Moron? It took a Rasen Shuriken, Yasaka Magtama and a Bijuu Dama to destroy a CT in the process of forming. Itachi doesn't have the fire power to take out CT

If any of the Paths get hit by Amaterasu which I doubt will happen due to the fact that the Rinnegan can feel the build up to Jutsu's and even if any of the paths get hit Amaterasu burns too slow which means Preta Path can just go over to any of the paths and absorb Amaterasu

Maybe if you read my post I said Visual Genjutsu which is pretty much any Sharingan Genjutsu. Jiraiya used Frog Song which isn't Visual Genjutsu. It was confirmed in the Databook plus The Six Paths of Pain are just puppets. In CQC Itachi gets hit with Massive scale ST even though I doubt Pain would have to resort to it. He would get overwhelmed with Missiles and Lasers, Summonings and Pain trying to Soul rip him.

Itachi has no chance at winning this.

all he's going to do is dislike your post, deny it, and tell you itachi's abilities again

he's not worth debating with,
try debating with someone who actually has a brain :]

 

[YellowFang]

Well, to put it simply,

Itachi is outmatched... even though he is one of those who doesn't easily get outmatched...

 

[NSUNSR]

Pain wins with low diff. CT and CST are not needed for Itachi.

 

[Lariatoo]

Pain low, low diff...

 

[TRE MERCER]

Make this Edo Itachi and restrict CT then Itachi wins. ​