Itachi the most well written character in Naruto?

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Don't get me wrong, I agree.

I just feel that his GOAT potential was severely nerfed due to Kishi's poor character development

Even the bond that Naruto and Sasuke had was not as it should have been

At least with Goku and Vegeta, both were Saiyans, both had their homeland destroyed and both LOVE fighting

Yea both kids came from similar background of orphanage but Kishi didn't take the time to really establish what made those bonds as tight as he presented to be
It's because he started focusing on the battles that were going on and past relationships instead of the current one.
I totally get you though. Kishi did mess it up a bit but I don't mind. Regardless on how it ended it, I enjoyed it either way.
 

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It's because he started focusing on the battles that were going on and past relationships instead of the current one.
I totally get you though. Kishi did mess it up a bit but I don't mind. Regardless on how it ended it, I enjoyed it either way.
Yea, at the end of the day I enjoyed it too.

I just with Kishi approached things how the two greats, Inoue and Miura do it.

Not giving a shit about deadlines and pleasing editors and letting the great story make money for itself
 

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Ummmmmmm

Ok


If he didn't wipe out his entire clan, the entire ninja world would have plunged into another Great War

The Uchiha were going to rebel, that would have weakened Konoha other Shinobi states would have jumped in and Konoha may have faced extinction.

He did what was best for the village

What else could he have done?????

Its not like Sasuke who actually had a choice, Itachi did what needed to have been done
Him killing his clan dosen't justify the mental torture he forced on sasuke.
He became a double agent yet:
A) the person he's supposed to double cross (obito (he didn't even know it wasn't madara)) already knew of his treachery, and didn't care much of it.
B) the ppl he's supposed to help(leaf village) got absolutely nothing on the akatsuki from him. Heck. It was the other way around seeing as how he gave deidara and kisame info on naruto and guy respectively.

He might as well have stayed bad and called it a day, but had to "switch sides" so sasuke would have another foolish goal to pursue.
 

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Him killing his clan dosen't justify the mental torture he forced on sasuke.
He became a double agent yet:
A) the person he's supposed to double cross (obito (he didn't even know it wasn't madara)) already knew of his treachery, and didn't care much of it.
B) the ppl he's supposed to help(leaf village) got absolutely nothing on the akatsuki from him. Heck. It was the other way around seeing as how he gave deidara and kisame info on naruto and guy respectively.

He might as well have stayed bad and called it a day, but had to "switch sides" so sasuke would have another foolish goal to pursue.
The whole purpose for playing the bad roll was to make Sasuke

Obito had Kamui and was backed by Madara, there was nothing Itachi could have done there

How did you think Jiraiya was able to get so much intel on Akatsuki?
 
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lol, not a chance. Itachi is surely an amazingly written character and had interesting development, but he's far from being best character in terms of depth quality. The bad quality about his character is, he doesn't learn people's mistake; particularly Sasuke and Madara.

His particular bad quality part is his revolutionary goal. He had literary learned nothing from what Madara told him and Kabuto, that's he's a failure and that doing all the work individually leads failure. He didn't learn anything from hearing Madara (the most evil character in Naruto) eventually knew the IT was never the actual goal towards peace. He learned nothing from Indra's history with his brother, Ashura, from the Rikudou.

That was at that moment is what made me think his character had gotten very poor. As Madara described him: he's just a brat with revenge issues.

The best written character is without doubt Madara Uchiha. His development from being a child, bearing the same ideals as Ashura, to losing his brother and discovering the truth of the Shinobi history via Uchiha Tablets, into such a wise person in regards to understanding the concept of Yin-Yang of the Shinobi world, was a magnificent writing from Kishimoto. Madara was just so logical, intelligent and realistic about his goals and character.
 

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The whole purpose for playing the bad roll was to make Sasuke

Obito had Kamui and was backed by Madara, there was nothing Itachi could have done there

How did you think Jiraiya was able to get so much intel on Akatsuki?
Exactly. Which is why he's so horrible. If he loved his brother he wouldn't do any of the things he did.

Glad you admit it

Jman got his info through research. Not itachi.
 

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lol, not a chance. Itachi is surely an amazingly written character and had interesting development, but he's far from being best character in terms of depth quality. The bad quality about his character is, he doesn't learn people's mistake; particularly Sasuke and Madara.

His particular bad quality part is his revolutionary goal. He had literary learned nothing from what Madara told him and Kabuto, that's he's a failure and that doing all the work individually leads failure. He didn't learn anything from hearing Madara (the most evil character in Naruto) eventually knew the IT was never the actual goal towards peace. He learned nothing from Indra's history with his brother, Ashura, from the Rikudou.

That was at that moment is what made me think his character had gotten very poor. As Madara described him: he's just a brat with revenge issues.

The best written character is without doubt Madara Uchiha. His development from being a child, bearing the same ideals as Ashura, to losing his brother and discovering the truth of the Shinobi history via Uchiha Tablets, into such a wise person in regards to understanding the concept of Yin-Yang of the Shinobi world, was a magnificent writing from Kishimoto. Madara was just so logical, intelligent and realistic about his goals and character.
By the time he was able read all of history of Uchiha with his MS, he did what he did.

There was no going back for him

And lets say he did, he would go to???? Who would help him counter the elders orders to massacre his entire clan.

He had no one to help him.

Also I don't think the actually Madara and Itachi ever interacted. Correct me if I am wrong.


Madara was batshit crazy. What is logical about him turning down an oppurtunity for his clan to experience REAL peace for personal revenge.

Madara was the complete opposite of logical or realistic.

Nothing that he did or felt was either of the two.


Madara was an undoubtedly great bad guy though due to his illogical insanity
 

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Exactly. Which is why he's so horrible. If he loved his brother he wouldn't do any of the things he did.

Glad you admit it

Jman got his info through research. Not itachi.
Getting Sasuke strong served a purpose though,

Strengthen him so that he can defend himself against any attempt Danzo and his anbu to eliminate him

Itachi underestimated his own clans emotional baggage however.


Probably is also slightly sadistic
 

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Getting Sasuke strong served a purpose though,

Strengthen him so that he can defend himself against any attempt Danzo and his anbu to eliminate him

Itachi underestimated his own clans emotional baggage however.


Probably is also slightly sadistic
Danzo wouldn't touch him, not because itachi said so, but because he's the last set of available eyes useful to the leaf. Same reason why Danzo dosent touch kakashi
 

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Danzo wouldn't touch him, not because itachi said so, but because he's the last set of available eyes useful to the leaf. Same reason why Danzo dosent touch kakashi
Remember Kakashi was ex-anbu so I am pretty sure he was off limits regardless

He could have easily kidnapped Sasuke and robbed him of his eyes

Its because Itachi would have exposed the Leaf's involvement in the Uchiha massacre
 

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Remember Kakashi was ex-anbu so I am pretty sure he was off limits regardless

He could have easily kidnapped Sasuke and robbed him of his eyes

Its because Itachi would have exposed the Leaf's involvement in the Uchiha massacre
Being anbu has nothing to do with it.

Him taking an under developed set of eyes would result in nothing. Until sasuke got the 3t in both or at least 1 he's useless to danzo. And we know the only way the eyes can mature is through the original user.

Besides sasuke was in public light, known throughout the village (like Kakashi) threat or no threat danzo couldn't touch him without public repercussions.
 

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This is a good point as well.

In that poll...
-People bandwagoned.
-They used alts.
-Most of the site really didn't know about it.
-It's been up for a short time.
-The poll was made after the conclusion of the series (in which case, most fans left this site. People are really only sticking it out of if they have an interest in either Sasuke, Naruto, or the Hyuuga).

Really makes one question the validity of any polls made after chapter 700. Lol

I knew you brought up that thread to have people question the poll.
Pretty sly. :snick:

Though, no one was taking that poll as a legitimate one to begin with. .__.
 
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