Itachi still above Kakashi?

[itachi4real]

I don't care what anyone says, Itachi can beat Naruto, Bee, Sasuke, Kakashi, Minato, Five Kages, and Tobi (before Ten-Tails)...

this guy know what he's talking about....i dont care either bro

 

[Skull Knight]

please tell me how has he surpassed itachi??? kakashi is a boss but he still isnt strong enough to beat itachi

totally agreed.
boss kakashi was stitching his wounds in kamuiland and planning to return.
but he is still not ready to beat Itachi san.

 

[Umari Senju]

Yata is a ethereal item, Kamui becomes useless when blocked with Yata mirror. Both Totsuka Blade and Yata Mirror have spiritual properties. Itachi is completely invincible.

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That is incorrect. Kamui does not only effect solid objects. Kakashi Kamuied an arrow from Sasuke's Susanoo and that was a spiritual weapon. Kakashi can Kamui away the Yata Mirror and the blade.

Itachi is still stronger though as he has Tsukuyomi Izanagi, Kotoamatsukami, etc. Kakashi can fall prey to any of his MS Genjutsu if he isn't careful. If they were to fight this time though. Itachi would be pressed as Kakashi has demonstrated he can take on Biju now.

Itachi wins Very high difficulty.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

Itachi and Kakashi could kill each other in 1 move if they use Amateratsu and Kamui at the same time.
Kakashi could burn to death and Itachi would be decapitated. Kamui doesn't always work instantly , neither Amateratsu.
Itachi is still above him though.

kamui can also make Amerteratsu vansih BTW itachi and kakashi are both unpredictable shinobis in whole NV ....they both have same level of intelligence .....So it is too much difficult to choose who can win

 

[itachi4real]

30% of his chakra, not power. His skills were the same and Kakashi managed to fight toe to toe with him and even outmanoeuvre him. You can't use their Part 1 fight because Kakashi was quite a few tiers below what he is now.

how are u gonna say he had the same skills if we've never seen he full power and skills?

 

[Stark]

That is incorrect. Kamui does not only effect solid objects. Kakashi Kamuied an arrow from Sasuke's Susanoo and that was a spiritual weapon. Kakashi can Kamui away the Yata Mirror and the blade.

Itachi is still stronger though as he has Tsukuyomi Izanagi, Kotoamatsukami, etc. Kakashi can fall prey to any of his MS Genjutsu if he isn't careful. If they were to fight this time though. Itachi would be pressed as Kakashi has demonstrated he can take on Biju now.

Itachi wins Very high difficulty.

Susano'o arrow isn't a spiritual weapon, it came equipped with his Susano'o. Itachi came across Totsuka and Yata through unknown means. Sasuke does not posses any spiritual weapons.

 

[Bogard]

Before Kamui would even get to Kakashi Totsuka Blade would extend faster and pierce Kakashi like it did Nagato. It has no length, it can go as far as the caster wishes. Probably within seconds judging by how quick Nagato was pierced before he could do anything while being fully possessed. Rinnengan > Sharingan Totsuka solod Nagato meaning Kakashi has no means of escaping if not even Nagato couldn't.

Too bad kamui is too fast that not even Obito who has Sharingan and Rinnengan activated could see. On the other side only thing totsuka caught was a blind and immobile target uncapable to see behind smoke. Itachi won't even react to it before realising he is already in the other dimension

 

[Stark]

Too bad kamui is too fast that not even Obito who has Sharingan and Rinnengan activated could see. On the other side only thing totsuka caught was a blind and immobile target uncapable to see behind smoke. Itachi won't even react to it before realising he is already in the other dimension

Before Kakashi even thinks of activating his Mangekyou to use Kamui he would already be under Genjutsu, no escaping Tsukuyomi unless you are a true heir to the Uchiha clan. He needs the Uchiha clan blood to be able to break or at the very least withstand it.

 

[Tendou00]

the last time they fought kakashi was only fighting 30% of itachi. the last time they fought seriously kakashi was owned

Reread the manga, it was Kakashi's clone owning and blocking Itachi's clone.

 

[chonk uzumaki]

I don't care what anyone says, Itachi can beat Naruto, Bee, Sasuke, Kakashi, Minato, Five Kages, and Tobi (before Ten-Tails)...

have you been watching and reading the same thing I have ?! lol because you sound ridiculous right now...

 

[Umari Senju]

Susano'o arrow isn't a spiritual weapon, it came equipped with his Susano'o. Itachi came across Totsuka and Yata through unknown means. Sasuke does not posses any spiritual weapons.

Regardless, my point still stands. Even if the bow and arrow came equipped with Sasuke's Susanoo, Susanoo itemself is chakra based/spiritual based. If Kakshi can Kamui away an arrow from Susanoo, he can Kamui away the Tata mirror and blade.

Again though, Kakshi falls short in the Genjutsu department, which you know Itachi would catch him in at some poin in the fight.

Either way Itachi would win this. I can admit that even if I am a Kakashi fan.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

his fans only argument is kamui makes kakashi better than itachi

 

[theacknowledgedone]

Itachi was the most hax character in NV, it's speculation and assumptions that anyone outside of the top 5 can beat him.

OT: Yeah, Itachi is still above him.

 

[Bogard]

Before Kakashi even thinks of activating his Mangekyou to use Kamui he would already be under Genjutsu, no escaping Tsukuyomi unless you are a true heir to the Uchiha clan. He needs the Uchiha clan blood to be able to break or at the very least withstand it.

Before Itachi thinks of activating his Mangekyou to use tsukuyomi, he would already be in the other dimension. I can also resonate like that

 

[Meee]

IDK Kakashi's Kamui is annoying as shit to rate

 

[Umari Senju]

his fans only argument is kamui makes kakashi better than itachi

don't go there. I'm a Kakashi fan and I don't think that. Kamui puts Kakshi close to Itachi, but Itachi is a genjutsu master. Kakashi would loose to this in the end.

 

[Shura]

Itachi still beats Kakashi.

 

[foxyladyland]

i think kamui works instantly now.
remember when Yahiko used d nail 2 kill Kakashi in Pain Invasion Arc.
he instantly kamui that nail.

yeah it appeared to work instantly at that time, but when you analyze it a little closer you'll discover that Pein was standing in 1 spot while he was about to shoot that nail into Kakashi's face, while Kakashi was also stuck in 1 spot with no where to go and the opportunity to only need a very small portion of Kamui for something the nail's size, which wasn't big at all, combined with the alignment of him and Pein, i'd say he could notice where the nail was supposed to be aimed at and have just a little bit of kamui in the right spot. So it seems like it was instant and he could Kamui almost anything of any size with ease almost instantly , but he was really accessing his only option there with a correct analysis of the situation. Same thing with Sasuke's Sussano'o arrow. Since they are heading directly towards Kakashi's face area they are somewhat heading into the portal created as Kamui so they sort of helped Kakashi out. xD

 

[Kαmi]

People always go straight to MS techniques for both characters :'(

OT: I'd say Itachi wins, mid-high diff.

 

[Bogard]

don't go there. I'm a Kakashi fan and I don't think that. Kamui puts Kakshi close to Itachi, but Itachi is a genjutsu master. Kakashi would loose to this in the end.

No normal genjutsu is going to work against Kakashi besides tsukuyomi because he is also a Sharingan user who was capable to compete with a Perfect Jinchuriki controller in the genjutsu department. Even tsukuyomi is now doubtful to work now that he masters MS when he already smh resisted to it even without MS before collapsing