Itachi, Minato & Nagato vs. Madara (EMS), Hashirama & Jiraiya

[teetooktier]

In the end i think team madara has just too much chakra and defensive skills.

Like I said in my post, defense isn't very useful against team Itachi. Hashirama's healing thing is useless against Totsuka sword and Nagato's soul grab, I'm not sure what defenses Jiraiya has aside from sensing in sage mode, but again team Itachi has powerful disables like Bansho pull and Tsukoyomi, and the ability to instantly take Jiraiya out once he's occupied. The only defense that deserves consideration is Madara's Susano'o, and team Itachi can instantly get behind the shield with FTG, and the soul dragon might be able to do it too. If I was arguing for team Hashirama, I wouldn't do it based on defense.

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

ems madara>itachi
hashirama>minato
nagato>jiraiya
odds are in team 2 favor.

 

[hanothemano]

Like I said in my post, defense isn't very useful against team Itachi. Hashirama's healing thing is useless against Totsuka sword and Nagato's soul grab

I agree that itachi's sword would pose a huge threat because once hit your K.O xd

However how long can itachi keep his susanoo up for? Maybe a few minutes at best; madara can keep his going all day long. I dont know if the sword can pierce through susanoo but assuming it can't (both techniques cancel each other) itachi wont win.

For nagato's soul steal to work he must be up real close, if minato can transport inside susanoo then they probably might win

Oh and genjutsu is a weakness of the rinnegan so nagato would have a hard time facing hashi with his darkness technique

 

[home]

hashirama>nagato
madara>itachi
minato>jman

so in the end we are left with hashirama and madara vs minato

team hashirama takes this mid diff

 

[teetooktier]

I agree that itachi's sword would pose a huge threat because once hit your K.O xd

However how long can itachi keep his susanoo up for? Maybe a few minutes at best; madara can keep his going all day long. I dont know if the sword can pierce through susanoo but assuming it can't (both techniques cancel each other) itachi wont win.

For nagato's soul steal to work he must be up real close, if minato can transport inside susanoo then they probably might win

Oh and genjutsu is a weakness of the rinnegan so nagato would have a hard time facing hashi with his darkness technique

This is more along the lines of what I was thinking of, the weakness of team Itachi etc. Props.

 

[Bogard]

Oh and genjutsu is a weakness of the rinnegan so nagato would have a hard time facing hashi with his darkness technique

Where have you seen that genjutsu is Rinnengan weakness?? Rinnengan is an evolution from EMS, so it can't be weak against genjutsus.
Nagato was even able to cast a genjutsu in an entire village without that they even know about it.

 

[arv993]

madara during his time with ems also had ninetails as a summon. so if we take that into account they win with mid diff. IF not its toss up slightly favoring team hashi

 

[GokuKage]

Obviously team Hashirama
...are you kidding me theres no debate about it...the 2 strongest ninja teamed up WITH JIRAYA? what...its game over!

 

[Uzusenchi]

Just tell me something. Why the hell does everyone keep bringing Kurama into this. Everyone's considering him being pulled out of Naruto or something? Assuming that he just has Kurama for some reason... is akward. Also since when could Jiraiya beat Minato? First off if Minato takes down Ma and Pa than its over. Jiraiya needs them to be in sage mode cause he can't gather natural energy while fighting. Without sage mode he doesn't even deserve to be in this thread. Itachi takes out bringer of darkness on anyone who gets caught in it even himself because he is the best genjutsu use in the fight. Nagato had yin and yang element plus all 5 reg. elements plus yin-yang combined element.

Oh and for the record, there will be no soloing from either side. No ninja in this thread from either team can take on the three from the other team alone.

 

[iCuRiddY]

Why is everyone matching them up 1v1????? I thought it was a team battle, not 1v1.....
That being said, seriously this should not be a debate. The two greatest ninjas on the same team would defeat anybody. Look at Edo madara now... He has hashiramas powers so u can kind of see how a team of hashi and madara would look like... Unstoppable Seriously people, its already been stated in the manga over and over again who the strongest shinobis outside of the sage were... And that's Hashirama and madara.... Unless u guys think the creator of the manga itself is wrong.... SMH

 

[arv993]

Just tell me something. Why the hell does everyone keep bringing Kurama into this. Everyone's considering him being pulled out of Naruto or something? Assuming that he just has Kurama for some reason... is akward. Also since when could Jiraiya beat Minato? First off if Minato takes down Ma and Pa than its over. Jiraiya needs them to be in sage mode cause he can't gather natural energy while fighting. Without sage mode he doesn't even deserve to be in this thread. Itachi takes out bringer of darkness on anyone who gets caught in it even himself because he is the best genjutsu use in the fight. Nagato had yin and yang element plus all 5 reg. elements plus yin-yang combined element.

Oh and for the record, there will be no soloing from either side. No ninja in this thread from either team can take on the three from the other team alone.

this is a VS thread we are looking at what abilities they had at some point. according to ur logic we cant include hashi, minato, nagato since they are all dead and gone from the present manga. madara used kuruma as a summon b4 it used to be his power since he was controlling the tailed beast. So dont bring up arguments like that. Also madara has rinnegan now but that is not included since this was the time he did not have it and only had ems so this is referring to his older days where he did have kuruma under his control.

 

[arv993]

Why is everyone matching them up 1v1????? I thought it was a team battle, not 1v1.....
That being said, seriously this should not be a debate. The two greatest ninjas on the same team would defeat anybody. Look at Edo madara now... He has hashiramas powers so u can kind of see how a team of hashi and madara would look like... Unstoppable Seriously people, its already been stated in the manga over and over again who the strongest shinobis outside of the sage were... And that's Hashirama and madara.... Unless u guys think the creator of the manga itself is wrong.... SMH

its ems madara lol not rinnegan

 

[XxNaruto10xX]

I say draw

 

[iCuRiddY]

its ems madara lol not rinnegan

I know its ems madara.... im just giving you an example of what a team of madara and hashirama might look like if they fought on the same side... Seeing as how Edo madara has both his own and hashiramas powers it would be similar watching madara and hashirama use their powers in unison to beat the other team... You get it???:shrug:

 

[arv993]

I know its ems madara.... im just giving you an example of what a team of madara and hashirama might look like if they fought on the same side... Seeing as how Edo madara has both his own and hashiramas powers it would be similar watching madara and hashirama use their powers in unison to beat the other team... You get it???:shrug:

ok i see where u r going with it but madara had something more which was the rinnegan but regardless i think they would win with high difficulty and with kuruma mid diff

 

[iCuRiddY]

ok i see where u r going with it but madara had something more which was the rinnegan but regardless i think they would win with high difficulty and with kuruma mid diff

Yea i agree with you, which is why I didn't mention any rineggan techniques. Hashiramas team with mid difficulty. I agree with u 100%

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

ehhh i'd say team 2. Nagato is by far team 1's strongest player and i feel that he's the only one in the same league as EMS Madara and Hashirama. Not that Minato and Itachi are weak, they are strong, but i just cant see them winning this battle. Madara and Hashirama are supposed to be the 2 strongest ninja ever, and them on a team would be pretty damn hard to beat. Adding jiraiya into the equation really seals the deal. If it was just hashi and EMS madara they might have chance since they'd have 1 extra, but jiraiya puts them ahead IMO.

 

[Bloody Temari]

I think Jiraya and Minato are somewhat equal.
I think Madara is slightly more powerful than Itachi
Hashirama versus Nagato... I vote for Hashirama (we know only few things about him but he has won Madara + Kurama so he propably is badass)

 

[uchiha goku]

Ahaha so much fail in one post.

Wat ? U think with that greeney bar long u think u have a PHD in naruto ?? U geeks overate nagato so much yet he lost 2 times ( to sm naruto and itachi )
now dont give me that bullshit that he was capturing nine tails not killing. If he is so godlike why the fuk he did nt capture it.
You nagato geeks keep suckng nagato's rusty old balls.

 

[tntempty]

Hashirama and EMS Madara already pawns, why add Jiraiya?