Itachi, Minato & Nagato vs. Madara (EMS), Hashirama & Jiraiya

[iknowwhotobiis]

itachi beat madara minato beat jiraiya and nagato beat hashi

lol wtf this kid again

 

[kellzfresh]

Nagato > Hashirama
Minato >> Jiraiya
EMS Madara > itachi

Nagato and minato vs EMS madara

Team 1 wins :scorps:

 

[Unorthodox]

Itachi

Madara has rivaled Hashirama and Madara is Superior than Itachi because of skill, abilities, and experience so how would Itachi fair against each opponent. Jiraiya with his skills, abilities and experience is questionable and could possibly stalemate at best.

Minato

Speeds does not always wins battles. Being said, each one opponent has a counter to his speed such as Hashirama's Mokuton Creation, Madara's Sharingan (Skills and Abilities), and Jiraiya's Knowledge on Minato's FTG. With the shared information and teamwork, the opponent could win the battle.

Nagato

His power is consider close to that of the Sage than anyone in Naruto. However, with the skilled, abilities, and experience shown and combine by the opponent, Nagato has no choice, but to co-operate with his team and/or lessen his range to prevent damage or harm onto his teammates.

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On-Topic:

I seem biased by only focusing on one group weakness and the other advantages, but I look at the skills, abilities, and experience, mostly experience, of each to determine the battle because, truly, their can be any winner as the battle can go either-way. It all depends on, Who can make the first move, wins the battle. Especially, in this battle.

when does exp every determins a battle? and he said ems madara not edo madara it will be 1v1v1vv1v1 so nagato will have his own free space and that case moku would put his team to sleep then your bias stop lieng

 

[Unorthodox]

lol wtf this kid again

you stay on my stick

Nagato > Hashirama
Minato >> Jiraiya
EMS Madara > itachi

Nagato and minato vs EMS madara

Team 1 wins :scorps:

from what we seen itachi>ems madara just because he has ems dont automatically means he wins he has only shown susanoo and incomplete fourm at that

 

[iknowwhotobiis]

So many people use this crappy argument, i'm going to stop responding to it. Feats > Hype. Nagato didn't lose to sm Naruto and his army of frogs, the fact that he had him pinned and lectured him about peace is enough to clearly show superiority with just the paths. Experience means shit since both teams have a tonne. More chakra? have you seen how much Nagato has.

Don't start on people not being smart enough when your argument is crap itself.

r u retarded? hashi has no feats trololol nice try. He founded the first shinobi village, leader of the strongest clan during an era of constant war. Beat madara+ kyuubi WTF--- just because kishi didnt show hashi true strength u r giving those lowbies the upper hand wp sir. Wait 20 more chapters u will come back and say hashi > so6p adohias

@unorthodox u r just a bad troll or u suffer from downsyndrome. I am still debating which one it is.

 

[jacobkp12]

you just lied right there ems madara would have lost to naruto and garra in the 1st 5 minutes and hes the strongest on the planet rinnegan saved him twice and nagato has a counter for all hashi moves name one things he could do to hurt nagato and currection nagato could have killed naruto and bee naruto and kurama beat nagatos path cause sage mode would have stayed pinned down

my point is you base everything on move move moves this is not chess! if thats the case then naruto should of never beat gaara because if lee was so fast that even he couldnt kill gaara what would make u think naruto could? but in the end naruto won soo dont base ur judgement on moves and da only reason why pain killed so much is coz no1 knew his secret once they did naruto won. and name me all of hashi's moves coz u've clearly seen all of them obviously (!)....u clearly cant coz it hasnt been in the manga or anime

 

[Unorthodox]

r u retarded? hashi has no feats trololol nice try. He founded the first shinobi village, leader of the strongest clan during an era of constant war. Beat madara+ kyuubi WTF--- just because kishi didnt show hashi true strength u r giving those lowbies the upper hand wp sir. Wait 20 more chapters u will come back and say hashi > so6p adohias

@unorthodox u r just a bad troll or u suffer from downsyndrome. I am still debating which one it is.

no hahsi dont have feats i no hes your favorite character everytime you back him up you use madara and kurama this not that A B C logic beating madara and sealing kurama are his hype he has no feats he got owned by the 3rd as an edo and who says tobirama wasit there when he fought madara?

my point is you base everything on move move moves this is not chess! if thats the case then naruto should of never beat gaara because if lee was so fast that even he couldnt kill gaara what would make u think naruto could? but in the end naruto won soo dont base ur judgement on moves and da only reason why pain killed so much is coz no1 knew his secret once they did naruto won. and name me all of hashi's moves coz u've clearly seen all of them obviously (!)....u clearly cant coz it hasnt been in the manga or anime

no because naruto naruto clones went under ground and bust garra and when he fought garra and them trees he had no sand protectin him because he was turning into the 1 tails naruto is the perfect match for garra like nagato and tobi are for hashi

 

[Midday]

r u retarded? hashi has no feats trololol nice try. He founded the first shinobi village, leader of the strongest clan during an era of constant war. Beat madara+ kyuubi WTF--- just because kishi didnt show hashi true strength u r giving those lowbies the upper hand wp sir. Wait 20 more chapters u will come back and say hashi > so6p adohias

@unorthodox u r just a bad troll or u suffer from downsyndrome. I am still debating which one it is.

Founding a village has what to do with taking out Nagato? It also happened to be the same village he took out in 1 attack. Strongest clan back then if you want to go down that route, Nagato was the leader of the Akatsuki, which was the strongest organisation in the world with just 10 people and now the 5 nations are going up against the leftovers. I'm sure Nagato can take Madara + kyuubi as well, but it's not relevant because being able to take out those two is a different story than taking out a rinnengan user. You've also failed to differentiate between feats and hype.

20 more chapters is another cop out we're discussing right now not in 20 chapters time. Also stop calling people down-syndromes and retards it's just making you look like an idiot whose lost his arguement. :flaw:

 

[Unorthodox]

Founding a village has what to do with taking out Nagato? Strongest clan back then, Nagato was the leader of the Akatsuki, which was the strongest organisation in the world with just 10 people and now the 5 nations are going up against the leftovers. I'm sure Nagato can take Madara + kyuubi as well, but it's not relevant because being able to take out those two is a different story than taking out a rinnengan user. You've also failed to differentiate between feats and hype.

20 more chapters is another cop out we're discussing right now not in 20 chapters time. Also stop calling people down-syndromes and retards it's just making you look like an idiot whose lost his arguement. :flaw:

rep x10 and down syndrome no im unorthodox my name explains it all

 

[iknowwhotobiis]

Founding a village has what to do with taking out Nagato? Strongest clan back then, Nagato was the leader of the Akatsuki, which was the strongest organisation in the world with just 10 people and now the 5 nations are going up against the leftovers. I'm sure Nagato can take Madara + kyuubi as well, but it's not relevant because being able to take out those two is a different story than taking out a rinnengan user. You've also failed to differentiate between feats and hype.

20 more chapters is another cop out we're discussing right now not in 20 chapters time. Also stop calling people down-syndromes and retards it's just making you look like an idiot whose lost his arguement. :flaw:

yoo fun fact nagato was not the leader but tobi... another thing so u base ur knowledge in what has been given and not hinted wp. with that narrow logic u r going far hahaha. For the last point, it wasnt directed to you why r u interfering?! are you an idiot or ds?! did i offend u by mistake sorry man

 

[MasterofSenjutsu]

I will say Itachi, Minato, and Nagato. Basically, I would give this there because of Nagato's rinnegan.

Founding a village has what to do with taking out Nagato? Strongest clan back then, Nagato was the leader of the Akatsuki, which was the strongest organisation in the world with just 10 people and now the 5 nations are going up against the leftovers. I'm sure Nagato can take Madara + kyuubi as well, but it's not relevant because being able to take out those two is a different story than taking out a rinnengan user. You've also failed to differentiate between feats and hype.

20 more chapters is another cop out we're discussing right now not in 20 chapters time. Also stop calling people down-syndromes and retards it's just making you look like an idiot whose lost his arguement. :flaw:

I agree with the last part of this. It's not nice to call people down-syndrome. It's rude, and stereotypical.

 

[9Bijuu]

Nagato was destroying two jinks and Itachi, no doubt he could take Hashi. Minato would fight J-man, Jiraiya's not known for speed and his defensive techniques wouldn't active quickly enough to deal with Minato's fighting style although it could end in a tie and Minato won't have an easy fight. Itachi and Madara would most likely be fairly equal, possibly more into Madara's favor, but once Minato / Nagato are done they can finish off Madara with relative ease. I'm going with team Nagato with possibly one death and all fairly injured.

 

[blazekev90]

Founding a village has what to do with taking out Nagato? It also happened to be the same village he took out in 1 attack. Strongest clan back then if you want to go down that route, Nagato was the leader of the Akatsuki, which was the strongest organisation in the world with just 10 people and now the 5 nations are going up against the leftovers. I'm sure Nagato can take Madara + kyuubi as well, but it's not relevant because being able to take out those two is a different story than taking out a rinnengan user. You've also failed to differentiate between feats and hype.

20 more chapters is another cop out we're discussing right now not in 20 chapters time. Also stop calling people down-syndromes and retards it's just making you look like an idiot whose lost his arguement. :flaw:

exactly how would Nagato defend against total darkness justu, which is a genjustu the effects ones vision? Also, dont forget the 1st Hokages wood element alone can surpress ones chakra and its a combo of water and earth release.

not to mention healing ability w/o hand signs

 

[Midday]

yoo fun fact nagato was not the leader but tobi... another thing so u base ur knowledge in what has been given and not hinted wp. with that narrow logic u r going far hahaha. For the last point, it wasnt directed to you why r u interfering?! are you an idiot or ds?! did i offend u by mistake sorry man

Erm he was the leader... Tobi was the guy who helped in the background and took over when Nagato defected. You've got a short memory the first line in your post called me a retard, not that I care what you think. But get back on topic or have you got nothing else to say.

exactly how would Nagato defend against total darkness justu, which is a genjustu the effects ones vision? Also, dont forget the 1st Hokages wood element alone can surpress ones chakra and its a combo of water and earth release.

not to mention healing ability w/o hand signs

The first can't suppress anyones chakra just tailed beasts. Nagato could always use summons/paths which have a linked vision so it doesn't matter if one can't see, it's also unlikely that all of them would get caught in that short range genjutsu not to mention he has team mates to get him out of genjutsu.

 

[Blaze Release]

DRAW.

This is very, very even fight because the strongest on team 1 is nagato and the strongest on team 2 is hashirama. The weakest on team 1 is minato, whilst the weakest on team 2 is jiraiya. From what we have seen from itachi and ems madara, feat goes to itachi whilst hype goes to madara. Dont even know whether madara has izanagi or izanami

Imo; Nagato > Hashirama stupidly high difficulty
Itachi = Ems madara (both die)
Minato =/> Jiraiya with stupidly high difficulty

Might give the slight advantage to team 1

 

[MasterofSenjutsu]

exactly how would Nagato defend against total darkness justu, which is a genjustu the effects ones vision? Also, dont forget the 1st Hokages wood element alone can surpress ones chakra and its a combo of water and earth release.

not to mention healing ability w/o hand signs

Two things wrong with that statement. Itachi is on their team, he can disrupt the genjutsu on Nagato. And Hash's mokuton does not suppress a person's chakra, it suppresses the bijuu's chakra.

 

[Gama Dai Sennin]

Jiraiya owns all!!

 

[jacobkp12]

no hahsi dont have feats i no hes your favorite character everytime you back him up you use madara and kurama this not that A B C logic beating madara and sealing kurama are his hype he has no feats he got owned by the 3rd as an edo and who says tobirama wasit there when he fought madara?


no because naruto naruto clones went under ground and bust garra and when he fought garra and them trees he had no sand protectin him because he was turning into the 1 tails naruto is the perfect match for garra like nagato and tobi are for hashi

wow when did naruto's clones go underground?? what u talking bout ? :/:sy:

 

[blazekev90]

Two things wrong with that statement. Itachi is on their team, he can disrupt the genjutsu on Nagato. And Hash's mokuton does not suppress a person's chakra, it suppresses the bijuu's chakra.

1) we were just discussing 1st Hokage and Nagato, and if they are catch no way to stop it.

2) yatamo was surpressing Kisame's chakra, the only way he broke free was from raw strength.

 

[Unorthodox]

team nagato wins