Itachi made Sasuke stronger with EMS upgrade

[Mellanoma]

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I'm not sure why people choose to deny this statement/manga fact from Sasuke but the truth is:
Sasuke taking Itachi's eyes also further enhanced his Chakra potency and his ability to unlock EMS abilities.

The Proof of this is clearly apparent in the manga.

An MS user has some extreme drawbacks to their abilities:

1) Blindness

2) Pain from Susanoo:

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3) Eye Strain from using each eye's special ability.


Now while most will say "EMS simply removes these drawbacks" people also forget that with these enhanced abilities comes bigger chakra/potency requirements to use these abilities.

For Example:

EMS gives Perfect Susanoo and Legged Susanoo. We can all agree that these abilities require MORE chakra or more powerful chakra to create in comparison to MS susanoo.

With this fact alone to say that Itachi didnt make Sasuke stronger is to accept the fact that Sasuke had PS creation level chakra while had MS which we all know is a lie.

Also in comparison to EMS vs MS:

To accept that Itachi didn't make Sasuke stronger would be someone accepting that EMS Sasuke and MS Sasuke are equal in terms of physical prowess. Which based on manga is absolutely incorrect.

So with this said. Accept that Yes, Itachi made Sasuke more powerful and not just better eyes.

Another point:

The Sharingan is a reflection of the power. This means that Itachi's power and Sasuke's power combine to create the new reflection which we consider EMS

 

[Clown World]

Well its safe to assume sasuke got some of itachis personal chakra therefore its true, since itachis >>> sauces.

 

[DrProof]

Itachi's power is the real reason Sasuke is so OP.

 

[ReBoot]

Pain from Susanoo seems to me only on the strength of the body and not from the eyes

 

[SeveN797]

There are no any "EMS abilities" all those are MS abilities.

EMS :
removes negative side-effects
grants stronger chakra
grants bigger reserves
enhances further precog

That's about it. And Sasuke's statement is false, either Kishi intended to give him Itachi's powers in the beginning(tsukuyomi/yata/totsuka) while writing this line and then abandon this idea, or he just meant only chakra right from the beginning.

 

[Mellanoma]

There are no any "EMS abilities" all those are MS abilities.

EMS :
removes negative side-effects
grants stronger chakra
grants bigger reserves
enhances further precog

That's about it. And Sasuke's statement is false, either Kishi intended to give him Itachi's powers in the beginning(tsukuyomi/yata/totsuka) while writing this line and then abandon this idea, or he just meant only chakra right from the beginning.

What?

His Power doesn't have to mean abilities.

Another point of this is Kakashi receiving Obito's Eye and powers. It further enhanced his capabilities as well.
KAkashi receiving the eye alone would never have allowed him the ability to use his abilities.

Sasuke required Itachi's power(Chakra,attributes) to enhance himself. The eyes are nothing more than a reflection of this enhancement.

 

[SeveN797]

What?

His Power doesn't have to mean abilities.

Another point of this is Kakashi receiving Obito's Eye and powers. It further enhanced his capabilities as well.
KAkashi receiving the eye alone would never have allowed him the ability to use his abilities.

Sasuke required Itachi's power(Chakra,attributes) to enhance himself. The eyes are nothing more than a reflection of this enhancement.

Yes it's just an upgrade to his chakra. The actual abilities aren't being transferred.

 

[Mellanoma]

Yes it's just an upgrade to his chakra. The actual abilities aren't being transferred.

by enhancing his chakra which is a mix of spirit and stamina. This means he was overall boosted in power correct?

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Itachi save Sasuke from becoming blind fodder.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Itachi's eyes cured Sasuke of blindness and side effects who denied this ? That itself is a power up of sorts.
The denial is on actual power ups like Itachi's jutsu which Sasuke should be able to use like Kakashi uses Obito's mangekyo techs etc. This was largely restricted for plot protection of the others with sword of solo, shield, Tsukuyomi and no side effects it'd be overkill for Naruto.

 

[FuriouslAngel]

Sasuke still doesnt have Totsuka Blade/Yata Mirror

 

[Mellanoma]

Itachi's eyes cured Sasuke of blindness and side effects who denied this ? That itself is a power up of sorts.
The denial is on actual power ups like Itachi's jutsu which Sasuke should be able to use like Kakashi uses Obito's mangekyo techs etc. This was largely restricted for plot protection of the others with sword of solo, shield, Tsukuyomi and no side effects it'd be overkill for Naruto.

Sasuke still doesnt have Totsuka Blade/Yata Mirror

The common misconception is that people are thinking powers = abilities.

They are not the same thing. Powers could simply mean his strength or chakra

 

[SeveN797]

by enhancing his chakra which is a mix of spirit and stamina. This means he was overall boosted in power correct?

Yes he was, it's just that EMS is boosting your existing powers, rather then adding something new. EMS Sasuke is still using the same techniques, but he can use them more proficient now, they are less taxing etc.

 

[FuriouslAngel]

The common misconception is that people are thinking powers = abilities.

They are not the same thing. Powers could simply mean his strength or chakra

Sasuke should have Totsuka/Yata - if your talking about upgrading EMS , excluding blindess/pain

 

[Nick01]

Itachi save Sasuke from becoming blind fodder.

Pretty much.

Itachi's eyes cured Sasuke of blindness and side effects who denied this ? That itself is a power up of sorts.
The denial is on actual power ups like Itachi's jutsu which Sasuke should be able to use like Kakashi uses Obito's mangekyo techs etc. This was largely restricted for plot protection of the others with sword of solo, shield, Tsukuyomi and no side effects it'd be overkill for Naruto.

Not really.

Naruto merely fought to match in Vote 2, not to kill nor win. While Sasuke did. Clearly he, among others, were the ones who need/needed plot protection.

 

[Amenotejikara]

Grants stronger chakra meaning his current arsenal becomes deadlier regardless if it's eye related tech or not.

 

[Jay SixPaths13]

Pretty much.




Not really.

Naruto merely fought to match in Vote 2, not to kill nor win. While Sasuke did. Clearly he, among others, were the ones who need/needed plot protection.

Lol dude shut up w that bs . If Naruto didnt fight to win then wtf was he fighting for ? To lose ? You Naruto fanboys sicken me. Naruto knew that he had to fight seriously in order to keep up and get to Sasuke but its like you Naruto fanboys keep on denying this fact.

 

[Nick01]

Lol dude shut up w that bs . If Naruto didnt fight to win then wtf was he fighting for ? To lose ? You Naruto fanboys sicken me. Naruto knew that he had to fight seriously in order to keep up and get to Sasuke but its like you Naruto fanboys keep on denying this fact.

You serious? :lol
He didn't want to beat Sasuke nor did he want to kill him. Naruto made this clear. It's not that hard to comprehend.
Clearly he didn't want to die, so he did what he could so that wouldn't happen. I'm not saying he took Sasuke lightly either. He did what he could do so he himself and Sasuke wouldn't die. Read the Manga. It's all there.
Maybe one of these days I'll make a thread to shut down all of you naysayers once and for all, proving my statement right that
"Naruto fought to match, not to win nor kill". But knowing how some people are, they'll stick to their delusion. Even Sasuke noted Naruto to be on the defensive for the first half of the fight.
Like I said, read the Manga. It's all there.

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

You serious? :lol
He didn't want to beat Sasuke nor did he want to kill him. Naruto made this clear. It's not that hard to comprehend.
Clearly he didn't want to die, so he did what he could so that wouldn't happen. I'm not saying he took Sasuke lightly either. He did what he could do so he himself and Sasuke wouldn't die. Read the Manga. It's all there.
Maybe one of these days I'll make a thread to shut down all of you naysayers once and for all, proving my statement right that
"Naruto fought to match, not to win nor kill". But knowing how some people are, they'll stick to their delusion. Even Sasuke noted Naruto to be on the defensive for the first half of the fight.
Like I said, read the Manga. It's all there.

Even so Sasuke hadn't mastered his rinnegan back then and you do know sasuke could simply absorb his spirit with rinnesharingan jutsu right?And he also could use kirin which could kill naruto since it's a spirit attack like naruto's kyuubi cloak.

 

[Brady]

Well its safe to assume sasuke got some of itachis personal chakra therefore its true, since itachis >>> sauces.

I've tried very hard to escape Nathan Damigo and you bring him here? Hell man..