Itachi & Kisame Vs Orichimaru & Jiraiya!!?

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Restrict boss summons/frog song and give team 2 less intel to make it a fairer fight. Ignoring the oblivious posters in this thread, the sheer barrage and scale of the techniques dished out by team 2 are far too much for team 1 to handle especially when bloodlusted. Pretty hard stomp as of right now
 

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Restrict boss summons/frog song and give team 2 less intel to make it a fairer fight. Ignoring the oblivious posters in this thread, the sheer barrage and scale of the techniques dished out by team 2 are far too much for team 1 to handle especially when bloodlusted. Pretty hard stomp as of right now
Please explain these large scale barrage techs you claims team 2 has.
 

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Please explain these large scale barrage techs you claims team 2 has.
This is why I said "ignoring the oblivious posters in this thread", you can read pretty much anything Jiraiya or Orochimaru has ever done to find them, so you shouldn't need me.

Though burden of proof is on me anyway so I guess I'll do it for you. A couple off the top of my head, every boss summon ever: Bunta, Hiro, Ken, Yatai Kuzushi. Manda, Goemon, Yomi Numa, Jiraiya Katons+ Fuuton Daitoppa combination, kage bunshins, Rashomon, odama rasengan and their variants, and I'm completely ignoring frog song and 2 800 year old elder perfect sages and the dozens of other jutsu they're capable of using.

Just because I throw around the name Bunta, Manda etc. so easily doesn't mean they're weak, in fact it just reinforces why it's so great. All of these things are huge obstacles for the other team to overcome and I only listed a few off the top of my head, to be able to throw around those names in a massive list of things just as threatening is amazing. The sole amount of power dished out amongst all of these high level techniques is far too much for these 2 guys to handle, it's on another level entirely to what they've fought before.

This fight is bloodlusted, if team 1 doesn't get fodderized right away they will be forced on the defensive, their arsenals are almost nothing before the other 2. If Itachi doesn't camp in susano'o he dies instantly he's way too frail to be out on this mass scale battlefield, and if he does camp in it then he'll die of exhaustion in no time when the sannin have all the time in the world to hold out when he's stuck inside. Luckily unlike the Sasuke fight, Orochimaru might actually decide to move around this time and Totsuka can only seal things by piercing them; the other team has literally no way to kill him off for good and Susano'o will be being juggled around by 4 massive boss summons the entire fight and more.

Like I said I just listed a couple of reasons off the top of my head without even thinking, and it's bloodlusted+ FULL INTEL of all things. They aren't winning, it's a terrible stomp in the Sannin's favor and in all honesty it's probably not healthy to try and convince yourself otherwise but I guess I can't stop you.

Probably longer than it needed to be but eh, you wanted an explanation so here it is. Now I'm more interested on support for your claims of how they would stand a chance, but if you're not going to be civil or are going to reply with stupid stuff because you like Itachi or something just don't bother. Try to be logical and a good discussion can happen, I believe in you young debater.
 
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