[VS] Itachi, Kisame, Deidara, Sasori vs Sannin and old Hiruzen

[pateuvasiliu]

Thanks for proving my point for me. Still requires the FTG formula which means he can only warp something to a location with another FTG formula.

Show me a scan proving Minato had a ftg formula where he ported the bijuudama.

Until then, he can send them where he pleases.

Lmao. Doubt you can comprehend, but... I don't know, maybe you should try reading the manga some time?

That's not the manga, that's the databook and it's outdated, unless you think that Yata Mirror can block the Juubidama or Shinsusenju, case in which lol at you fanboy.

One moment, as I reread the OP in search of where it states Minato has prep time. Aww, can't find it.

Tsunade already has the formula on her. Tagging Oro and Jiraiya would take a second.

 

[Bijuu13]

Team two stomps after logically evaluating what would happen to team one .. Edo for the freaking win

Oh and Forbidden Technique, you lose

 

[Red Slayer]

team mid diff wins. Oro summons edos end of story.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Team 2.
The sannins have some of the best team work since they use to be a team + hiruzen their sensei.
Edo hashi , tobirama and Mina to would make it an easy fight. Orochimaru simply tags them so that they'll listen. But he doesn't need to. Hashi would fight because tsunade and hiruzen are in danger. He won't disobey Oro and let his grand daughter die

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Oro doesn't have Hashirama.

If he did Hashi would solo, lol.

wait.

But he doesn't need to. Hashi would fight because tsunade and hiruzen are in danger. He won't disobey Oro and let his grand daughter die

You're actually right.

Oro cannot control Hashirama, but he doesn't have to. He can summon Hashirama.

GG.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Show me a scan proving Minato had a ftg formula where he ported the bijuudama.

Until then, he can send them where he pleases.

So just like his ordinary FTG which revolves around teleporting to places which only have the FTG formula, he has to use the same formula to send objects with the space-time barrier, only this time to any location he desires? Despite it being nearly the same jutsu? Sure, the logic is definitely there. :|

That's not the manga, that's the databook and it's outdated, unless you think that Yata Mirror can block the Juubidama or Shinsusenju, case in which lol at you fanboy.

Another very logical argument. So despite the databook being 100% correct about the Totsuka Blade, it isn't correct about Yata Mirror because it hasn't had the chance to show any impressive feats in the manga? Is that really all you got?

This is taken straight from the manga. If you can read, it states the jutsu absorbs chakra.

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This is another manga page. It clearly states it's a super-natural item. Not chakra.

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Therefore, GSB is not getting past it.

Tsunade already has the formula on her. Tagging Oro and Jiraiya would take a second.

Okay and? He still isn't teleporting them out of the battlefield like you said in your last post. There are only 5 people he can teleport or teleport to, which means only 5 possible spots he can teleport within the battlefield. While facing 4 opponents, that isn't a great number.

Team two stomps after logically evaluating what would happen to team one .. Edo for the freaking win

Oh and Forbidden Technique, you lose

That's an awesome argument you got there. While I will admit they lose with the help of Hashirama if he were to get summoned and come to the aid of Tsunade and Tobirama, however without him they don't stand a chance.

 

[theTobiramaSenju]

Team akatsuki stomps.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

So just like his ordinary FTG which revolves around teleporting to places which only have the FTG formula, he has to use the same formula to send objects with the space-time barrier, only this time to any location he desires? Despite it being nearly the same jutsu? Sure, the logic is definitely there.

FTG and S/T barrier aren't the same jutsu. He only needs a marking for the S/T barrier, he doesn't need a marking for its destination. He could send any jutsu back at team 1.

Another very logical argument. So despite the databook being 100% correct about the Totsuka Blade, it isn't correct about Yata Mirror because it hasn't had the chance to show any impressive feats in the manga? Is that really all you got?

This is taken straight from the manga. If you can read, it states the jutsu absorbs chakra. This is another manga page. It clearly states it's a super-natural item. Not chakra.

Item or not, it is wielded by Susanoo which will get eaten by GSB.

Okay and? He still isn't teleporting them out of the battlefield like you said in your last post. There are only 5 people he can teleport or teleport to, which means only 5 possible spots he can teleport within the battlefield. While facing 4 opponents, that isn't a great number.

Uhm, no?

He can mark Jiraiya, Oro, Edo Hiruzen, Edo Tobirama, Gamabunta, Gamaken, Gamahiro, Ma, Pa, Katsuya and literally every object he touches.

Trees, rocks. Hell, he can tag Sasori's puppets for all I care.

Bottom line is the 3 edos cannot be killed. Itachi lacks the stamina to keep Final Susanoo on long enough to seal all of them.

Team 2 wins, even without Hashirama.

 

[Shura]

C4 solos..

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

I truly believed team 1 would win mid diff until someone metioned Hashirama
Oro summoning Hashi at full power (he doesn't have to be a controllable weak version since he's gonna join his granddaughter's / student's team) would be a problem for team 1

 

[pateuvasiliu]

A problem?

Hashi would solo with no trouble.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

A problem?

Hashi would solo with no trouble.

Hashi can't counter tsukuyomi
or Itachi can just genjutsu the summoner and force him to end ET and then it will be old Hiruzen + students again and Itachi + Sasori will be enough to rape

 

[Shura]

Hashi can't counter tsukuyomi
or Itachi can just genjutsu the summoner and force him to end ET and then it will be old Hiruzen + students again and Itachi + Sasori will be enough to rape

Sasori and Itachi are almost unbeatable together. Look up and you'll get caught in a Genjutsu. Look down and you won't be able to see Sasori's fingers/puppets/Iron Sand and will get poisoned.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

FTG and S/T barrier aren't the same jutsu. He only needs a marking for the S/T barrier, he doesn't need a marking for its destination. He could send any jutsu back at team 1.

Such baseless assumptions. FTG is a S/T ninjutsu. So yes, they are nearly the same and work the same. Bold makes no sense. Explain to me why can't he just teleport to any location he wishes then? Since they require the same FTG formula.

Item or not, it is wielded by Susanoo which will get eaten by GSB.

Did you not read where it says Daikodan only absorbs chakra? Is the yata mirror made out of chakra? Daikodan isn't getting past the Yata Mirror, so it's not eating the Susano'o. Like how retarded can someone be to not grasp this.

Uhm, no?

He can mark Jiraiya, Oro, Edo Hiruzen, Edo Tobirama, Gamabunta, Gamaken, Gamahiro, Ma, Pa, Katsuya and literally every object he touches.

Trees, rocks. Hell, he can tag Sasori's puppets for all I care.

Bottom line is the 3 edos cannot be killed. Itachi lacks the stamina to keep Final Susanoo on long enough to seal all of them.

Team 2 wins, even without Hashirama.

The terrain will be covered with water as Kisame can dispel his giant lake. This limits Minato to only being able to tag his teammates. Jiraiya, all summons, Tsunade, and Hiruzen all can get one shotted by Amaterasu. Which limits Minato to a even fewer selection. And I haven't even addressed Deidara and Sasori, lmao this fight won't even be raised to high-difficulty.

Without including Hashirama, the only edos here are near featless Tobirama and Minato. OP states Hiruzen is alive, and will get stomped effortlessly.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Sasori and Itachi are almost unbeatable together. Look up and you'll get caught in a Genjutsu. Look down and you won't be able to see Sasori's fingers/puppets/Iron Sand and will get poisoned.

I totally agree
Akatsukis have very different fighting styles while the sannin are basically summoning spammers with average speed
the fight would look like this:
giant summonings get hit by amaterasu because they are very big => easy to hit
everyone who's not immortal (Hiruzen Tsunade Jiraiya) gets killed by poison
Orochimaru summons Hashirama
Akatsuki members tell Hashi Oro killed Tsunade
Hashi gets angry and solos Oro

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Hashi can't counter tsukuyomi

Tell me you are joking because by that logic Itachi > Hashirama and I swear to God if you actually believe that I will have a new signature soon enough.

Is the yata mirror made out of chakra?

Yes. It is a spiritual weapon. Spiritual =/= Physical.

Everything which isn't Physical is Chakra. Dan's ghost form is chakra, for example.

 

[Shura]

I totally agree
Akatsukis have very different fighting styles while the sannin are basically summoning spammers with average speed
the fight would look like this:
giant summonings get hit by amaterasu because they are very big => easy to hit
everyone who's not immortal (Hiruzen Tsunade Jiraiya) gets killed by poison
Orochimaru summons Hashirama
Akatsuki members tell Hashi Oro killed Tsunade
Hashi gets angry and solos Oro

Lol yeah. Hashi can be captured in Itachi's Genjutsu and then pierced by Totsuka while Sasori just takes care of the summonings and the sannin with poison. If needed, Itachi can just pierce the summoning with Totsuka. Deidara and Kisame can just watch and have a cup of tea.

 

[RicardoA]

*Oro summons Hashi*, *Hashi see dem bad guys tryna touch his grandaughter*, *team 1 is murdered* :|
It doesn't matter if he can't control Hashi if Hashi chooses his side.

 

[Shura]

*Oro summons Hashi*, *Hashi see dem bad guys tryna touch his grandaughter*, *team 2 is murdered* :|
It doesn't matter if he can't control Hashi if Hashi chooses his side.

However, what if Itachi stabs the coffin with Totsuka?
Kisame and Dei aren't needed. Itachi and Sasori take care of them.

 

[RicardoA]

However, what if Itachi stabs the coffin with Totsuka?
Kisame and Dei aren't needed. Itachi and Sasori take care of them.

Summoning the coffins takes 2 seconds. The next 2 seconds they're conscious.
Team 2 has a lot of summons and also decent firepower, i find that very unlikely.