Itachi is to OP
- Thread starter moise
- Start date
SilverSlick
Banned
- Nagato had his legs blown off. Yet with Asura Path, he was seen to have a mechanical body. Explain why he didn't simply resort to robotic legs.
- Nagato absorbed Killer B's chakra and regained a youthful look. Explain why he didn't simply absorb fodders' chakra in Amegakure.
- EMS Itachi could not reach Edo Madara's level.
Invsblphntm
Active member
I could make a better thread then this with Nagato, about 10x better to be precise.
By the way, with such an arsenal of one-hit kill jutsu... he only killed his family LOL
Plot-no-jutsu restricts a lot of characters, I don't see the big deal with Itachi "being held back" when just about every villain gets "held back".
By the way, with such an arsenal of one-hit kill jutsu... he only killed his family LOL
Plot-no-jutsu restricts a lot of characters, I don't see the big deal with Itachi "being held back" when just about every villain gets "held back".
From the Dark Spire
Active member
Come on you guys give Itachi some credit.....
Hah.... here's the thing, I get it, ok? It's like I've said before, Itachi has sacrified so much for our industry, you have to look at it from his point of view. He well deserves all of the power he gets, other than that, he has nothing... Other than Sasuke, he has no family, no clan. Itachi was a man of honor, and a future Naruto Hall of Famer.
Hah.... here's the thing, I get it, ok? It's like I've said before, Itachi has sacrified so much for our industry, you have to look at it from his point of view. He well deserves all of the power he gets, other than that, he has nothing... Other than Sasuke, he has no family, no clan. Itachi was a man of honor, and a future Naruto Hall of Famer.
monkeybundle
Banned
u guys r dumb, itachi didnt surpass nagato or Madara, he defeated nagato with B and NAruto's help, also Madara is out of the question, Madara has EMS+Rinnegan, first hokages cells, PERFECT SUSANOO, and wood clone jutsu, also itachi even said that if him and jiraiya fought, it would be a tie, nd thats before he knew about his sage mode
SilverSlick
Banned
True dat
iShodaime already said something about Nagato being restricted by plot in his post
Kishi is restricting Tobi as we speak. Kishi has found out that his S/T tech is just too OP, so he has kinda handicapped him by not letting him use Rinnegan techs.
rinnegan human puppet
Active member
The two people to me who has a chance of beating Edo Madara are, Minato (a sealing GOD, which just so happens to be Madaras only weakness. And it just so happens hes be able to get as close to you as he wants, and when he wants in literally an instant, *to plant a seal*) and Itachi( I mean haxxed Uchiha vs Haxxed Uchiha, they both have a chance at winning, its just who can use their powers more wisely, and Itachis shown rennigan is not a threat to him)
Itachi made Nagato look like an idiot...... Well to me at least...
Itachi also made Kabuto look like a weak confused, overly emotional psychopath..Take out Kabuto with one eye, his edos are gone and guess what Itachi still has one more eye left..LOL
Itachi had some random disease which was never elaborated on, Nagato got crippled thru Hanzo traps which effected his mobility, and Minato had nothing wrong matter of fact he died while succeeding, were as Itachi and Nagato both declared themselves as failures.
The difference with Itachi is he was yet to reach his peak IMO. I mean most shinobi reach their peaks around late 20s, or early 30s, both Nagato/Minato were most likely in their peaks, or beyond it. 2nd Mizukage/Deidara are also victims of this (dying young). Yet they proved to be formidable opponents.
Seeing Uchiha can gain EMS and Rinnegan. If Itachi was to gain that, yeah he would be pretty boss.
The difference with Itachi is he was yet to reach his peak IMO. I mean most shinobi reach their peaks around late 20s, or early 30s, both Nagato/Minato were most likely in their peaks, or beyond it. 2nd Mizukage/Deidara are also victims of this (dying young). Yet they proved to be formidable opponents.
Seeing Uchiha can gain EMS and Rinnegan. If Itachi was to gain that, yeah he would be pretty boss.
Q of the Sharingan
Active member
1. Probably chakra consumtion. It would also probably take away his concentration from other things when having to constantly maintain the legs functioning. This would mean that his other more damaging paths would be less effective. You saw how long it took him to pull out Naruto's soul when he had to use Preta Path to block a rasengan and then Asura Path to block Bee.
2. Killer Bee was in V2 state. That is an enormous amount of chakra that Nagato absorbed. Also it is possible that he utilized the yang half of the chakra he absorbed, the half that gives life like how Naruto's KCM made Yamato's wood grow leaves. If Preta Path nullifies chakra the way it is said in the DB then this is very plausible. Oh yea, Nagato wasn't a complete **** to his subjects.
3. He could have if EMS grants Perfect Susanoo (which I think it does) and he could still use his spirit weapons. That destructive power combined with Yata Mirror and a nonsick Itachi's chakra levels would make him literally unstoppable.
You just need to think a little bit. I can see that you love Nagato's character and you are upset at his disabilities and restrictions. Don't let that cloud your mind though. (assumption made because this is the second time you have defended/argued for Nagato)
Last edited:
- He only needs to use it while fighting. Nagato has the chakra reserves for such things, we saw this during Konoha's destruction.
- Perhaps, but that is merely speculation. And in all honesty, I do believe this is all on Kishimoto because Nagato's real strength would be wayyy beyond SM Naruto's level; He'd be much more caparable to Bijuu Mode Naruto. For a character such as Nagato to be at full strength, his introduction in the story would've needed to come at a much later date.
- lol no, I simply can't get into this, I find the idea far too ludicrous.
Not really, it's just that the entire manga is plot driven and threads such as this can't be restricted to one person. Heck, I even acknowledged that EMS Itachi would likely surpass EMS Madara.
Q of the Sharingan
Active member
1. You neglected to comment on the concentration aspect of using that path constantly.
2. The amount of chakra he absorbed isn't speculation. You overplay the potential of Nagato's abilities and also without thinking of any negative aspects that might be a factor. Nagato's paths defeated SM Naruto. He cannot go against Kurama or a BM Naruto with a fair chance of winning. It would be a struggle for survival for him.
3. It would be ridiculous. That is why Kishi didn't let it happen.
The entire manga is plot. The OP took away the random cause of death for Itachi. Nagato was injured in battle and suffered side effects from the extremely overpowered Gedo Mazo syncing soul dragon jutsu. It isn't that hard to just take away that single restriction from Itachi due to its random nature.
I feel like your joking....but just in case >_>
Itachi vs Nagato: Doesn't mean unlimited chakra still can't spam, so Nagato would win, hardly anything would change.
Itachi vs Danzo : Kotoamatsukami.
Itachi vs Jitaiya: you are correct sir
Itachi vs Kakashi: Kamui Maybe? porbabably not though....so you are correct sir.
Now on topic, yes Kishi had to kill him for many reasons.
