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I see what you're saying. Adding EMS and health to Itachi and his current feats easily puts him in top 5. I'm not sure if he would be stronger then EMS Madara though, but who knows.
Itachi is the BEST equipped Uchiha!!!!
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That's the point, I never said he was stronger but with the abilities he possesses I rank him above the others. Also, unless I see Madara use strategic moves and analysis a situation effortlessly I can't account his intelligence, which is an important factor for such a match-up
To be honest, I dont see how Madara could beat Itachi?
Even if they had full knowledge above each other, his perfect Susano´o couldnt do shit against the Yata Mirror. Neither any Katon jutsu or whatever. He also wont be able to reach Itachi.
Even the meteor wont do anything against the Yata Mirror.
Rinnegan wont be of any use either, Shinra Tensei gets repelled too and he cant absorb Susano´o because he would have to come closer and it would take some time, enough to get hit by the Totsuka Sword.
I only see "his" Mokuton beeing able to deal with Itachis Susano´o, rising it in the air or burrying it but the Totsuka Sword can just seal the entire forest. From the current techniques Madara showed I dont see him winning against Itachi.
However Madara doesnt know anything about Itachi but Itachi knows something about Madara (that hes very strong and a legend blabla) so to be on the safe side Itachi could just deceive Madara. He could fight him with his regular 3 Tomoe Sharingan, making Madara believe that hes just a lowskill Uchiha, he could get himself killed and use Izanagi to pop up from behind and quickly seal him with the Totsuka Sword (practically the same that Obito did to Konan). Madara in the meantime would let his defence down because who would expect Izanagi from a 3 Tomoe Sharingan?
It would come with a high price (1 eye) but it would be a 100% safe way to defeat Edo Madara.
I would tend to say that Obito could easily kill Itachi because of his S/T jutsu but Obito was afraid of fighting Itachi for years and stopped his plan until Itachi died, would he do that if he could kill him? IDK....
Even if they had full knowledge above each other, his perfect Susano´o couldnt do shit against the Yata Mirror. Neither any Katon jutsu or whatever. He also wont be able to reach Itachi.
Even the meteor wont do anything against the Yata Mirror.
Rinnegan wont be of any use either, Shinra Tensei gets repelled too and he cant absorb Susano´o because he would have to come closer and it would take some time, enough to get hit by the Totsuka Sword.
I only see "his" Mokuton beeing able to deal with Itachis Susano´o, rising it in the air or burrying it but the Totsuka Sword can just seal the entire forest. From the current techniques Madara showed I dont see him winning against Itachi.
However Madara doesnt know anything about Itachi but Itachi knows something about Madara (that hes very strong and a legend blabla) so to be on the safe side Itachi could just deceive Madara. He could fight him with his regular 3 Tomoe Sharingan, making Madara believe that hes just a lowskill Uchiha, he could get himself killed and use Izanagi to pop up from behind and quickly seal him with the Totsuka Sword (practically the same that Obito did to Konan). Madara in the meantime would let his defence down because who would expect Izanagi from a 3 Tomoe Sharingan?
It would come with a high price (1 eye) but it would be a 100% safe way to defeat Edo Madara.
I would tend to say that Obito could easily kill Itachi because of his S/T jutsu but Obito was afraid of fighting Itachi for years and stopped his plan until Itachi died, would he do that if he could kill him? IDK....
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Itachi can't beat Obito or Madara.
How is the Yata Mirror going to block a meteor from above when the mirror is in the front.
Since when could Totsuka seal a forest.
If he fights him with 3-Tomoe he will be murked instantly no-diff, and since when could Itachi use Izanagi.
He wasn't afraid of him, besides Obito defeats Itachi now, easily.
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This!!. There is clear distinction between talent and potential. In terms of talent DB, yes DB and manga both supports itachi being the most talented uchiha, with only shisui rivalling him. Even sasuke who has been acknowledged as a genius was not only envious of itachi's talent's, sasuke stood right beside itachi and kabuto hyped only him up.
In terms of potential, we have to take into consideration his illness which stunned his potential. Obito's doenst have this weakness but also has gained 6 bijuu's. Madara also has potential to get stronger for obvious reasons. Same can be said about sasuke. Talent goes to itachi whilst potential goes to the 3.
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Come on, Susano´o isnt that static
That thing has arms which it can use to point the Yata Mirror in the air towards the meteor.
From the Naruto-wikia:
"It is an ethereal weapon, with an enchanted blade capable of sealing anything it pierces."
Well a forest is "anything".
Thats the point, Madara will think that he just killed a noob Uchiha and let his defence down because theres no enemy around. He will be suprised if Itachi pops up up behind him with the help of Izanagi but by the time he realizes that he will already have the Totsuka Sword slammed in his body.
Itachi used Izanami and Izanami is the counter to Izanagi, you could call these both brothers so its only realistic if he also knows about Izanagi.
Like I said I would think that too because I dont see what Itachi could do against Obitos perfect S/T jutsu but why didnt Obito just kill Itachi? Instead he waited and stalled his plan for years, why would he do that if he would be sure to win a fight between them?
Erm... can the mirror not move?!
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shows that Itachi holds the mirror like a shield. Why couldn't he just put it above him to defend himself against the meteor? -.-Sword of Totsuka can seal anything it touches. It sealed Orochimaru's entire huge hydra snake form... why could it not suck in a forest?
Izanagi can be performed by ANY Uchiha with a powerful sharingan and has knowledge of the jutsu and how to do it... Don't you remember that the whole purpose of Izanami was to have a counter for Izanagi-abusing Uchihas. And that's probably why Itachi should refrain from using Izanagi at all... Madara can do it too and Izanami and probably to a better level.
3 tomoe Itachi still has a brain, you know, and isn't THAT weak. But Madara would probably rape him sideways anyway. The whole Izanagi trick isn't Itachi's style really anyway...
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Even then he would have to pierce the whole forest which is not going to happen before the forest overwhelms him, and he can Flower Tree World to put Itachi to sleep.Come on, Susano´o isnt that static
That thing has arms which it can use to point the Yata Mirror in the air towards the meteor.
From the Naruto-wikia:
"It is an ethereal weapon, with an enchanted blade capable of sealing anything it pierces."
Well a forest is "anything".
Thats the point, Madara will think that he just killed a noob Uchiha and let his defence down because theres no enemy around. He will be suprised if Itachi pops up up behind him with the help of Izanagi but by the time he realizes that he will already have the Totsuka Sword slammed in his body.
Itachi used Izanami and Izanami is the counter to Izanagi, you could call these both brothers so its only realistic if he also knows about Izanagi.
Like I said I would think that too because I dont see what Itachi could do against Obitos perfect S/T jutsu but why didnt Obito just kill Itachi? Instead he waited and stalled his plan for years, why would he do that if he would be sure to win a fight between them?
I guess it's sorta logical to believe he can use Izanagi, but Itachi would have to put up Susanoo, then attack Madara before he can even react which is very unlikely, by then Madara can block Totsuka with his own Susanoo.
Orochimaru is a living being, a forest is not, it is stated those who are sealed in Totsuka are trapped in a dream like Genjutsu for all eternity, so I assume that it can only seal living things.
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Mhm I dont think that Madara could do that.
Remember the Itachi vs. Sasuke fight and how Itachi blocked Kirin? Itachi activated his Susano´o after Sasuke fired Kirin at him and Zetsu stated that lightning reaches the ground in milliseconds.
Not to forget that Itachi would be behind Madara so he wont be able to see him, just feel his presence/chakra but that alone would easily take a few milliseconds.
However I agree that this kind of fighting isnt Itachi´s style and that it would come with a very high price, Madara would be the last enemy that he would beat. After that Itachi would get raped himself with only 1 eye, no more Susano´o and Amaterasu/Tsukuyomi.
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Best equipped I'd go with Madara by default because of Perfect Susano. Then Sasuke because his amaterasu techniques are the best of every uchiha, his susano is 2nd best after Madaras, he's got decent genjutsu, and he has awesome lightning techniques.
Itachi is right behind those 2 IMO in terms of equip. But he's probably at the top of all 3 in terms of skills and strategy.
Itachi is right behind those 2 IMO in terms of equip. But he's probably at the top of all 3 in terms of skills and strategy.
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