[Theory] Itachi is stronger than Nagato

[PositiveEmotions]

yes i agree we clearly gonna keep discussing on the abilities of itachi and nagato and we will never get anywhere lol

 

[PEIN is the answer]

Yes but 100% v 100% = nagato victorious if rinnengan does have counter to visual genjustu which is very very very Lilkly. One question also why doesn't madara have susano if he so bad ass

 

[PEIN is the answer]

ok i see ur point u want to make it more even on both sides so that it is a good debate, i agree otherwise itachi might have the win a bit easier. But i don't get how u see that six tails naruto who was going insane and who just goes on a rampage is as smart as a regular shinobi.

Like I said he is an instinctive killer and powerful creature he has pure fight logic the will to kill it's all he knows in six tails so yes his ability to use attacks and react to things means it is very intelligent in battle it can't take test or communicate or really do anything but kill and it's pretty good at it

 

[arv993]

Yes but 100% v 100% = nagato victorious if rinnengan does have counter to visual genjustu which is very very very Lilkly. One question also why doesn't madara have susano if he so bad ass

Like I said he is an instinctive killer and powerful creature he has pure fight logic the will to kill it's all he knows in six tails so yes his ability to use attacks and react to things means it is very intelligent in battle it can't take test or communicate or really do anything but kill and it's pretty good at it

we have no proof he has counter to visual genjutsu but that does not matter cos we have no proof. but KA would work on him very likely. We don't kno if madra has it or not his powers really are a big mystery.

instinctive killer is different from analyzing the situation and finding counters to it like regular shinobi would try to do. If the creature was so smart it would have tried to attack the user of chibaku tensei but instead was just going on a ramapage and not pin pointing its attacks on tendo pain..

 

[Uzumaki Sasuke]

Pls b4 we end dis thread I wud like 2 pose dis question. If d Rinnegan is immune 2 visual genjutsu what do u say about Finger genjutsu? Ass genjutsu, Mouth Genjutsu, or even Feet genjutsu? Please I wud really like 2 know. Who wud have thought dis thread wud have reached over 1000 posts

 

[ackeem1992]

here my though

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[Izanami]

we have no proof he has counter to visual genjutsu but that does not matter cos we have no proof. but KA would work on him very likely. We don't kno if madra has it or not his powers really are a big mystery.

instinctive killer is different from analyzing the situation and finding counters to it like regular shinobi would try to do. If the creature was so smart it would have tried to attack the user of chibaku tensei but instead was just going on a ramapage and not pin pointing its attacks on tendo pain..

Your saying he could use Koto Amatasaki on him ? you stupid? He couldnt use it on sasuke when he was alive and itachi just used it on himself +its not his own jutsu listen you need to leave your own itachi over hyped views to yourself anyone with commone sense can tell Nagato is on a different level look at all the posts reflect come from an unbiased stand point and Know pain

Pls b4 we end dis thread I wud like 2 pose dis question. If d Rinnegan is immune 2 visual genjutsu what do u say about Finger genjutsu? Ass genjutsu, Mouth Genjutsu, or even Feet genjutsu? Please I wud really like 2 know. Who wud have thought dis thread wud have reached over 1000 posts

Even if it is not immune to visual genjustu which is more likely then not his paths inside his body would disturb his chakra and break him out.Nagato is the strongest character we ever seen featured in the manga kishi had to put major handicaps on him and have him controlled to be beaten by top 5 ninja come on dude snap out of this.

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[arv993]

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dude u make some good points but this is a pure 1v1 fight we are talking about, u can see with ease how itachi blinded his other sights and got him with the sword of totsuka. In a 1v1 battle for someone like nagato who has limited movement to pull off the chibaku tensei is dangerous and can easily be hit by the sword, magatama or any other attack, and don't forget that bee and naruto were at forst only hindrances and had to be saved by itachi which allowed nagato to pull of the chibaku tensei and also edo tensei helped him out twice by regenerating him without which he would not be able to most of his techs. in a 1v1 battle i say itachi has the advantage due to his simply faster attacks, intelligence he used to blind nagato's other sights and he has the advantage in speed and movement. nagato is very strong and i agree he has good chances to win but in a 1v1 i see itachi having the better chances just by seeing his use of his techs and intelligence.

 

[arv993]

Your saying he could use Koto Amatasaki on him ? you stupid? He couldnt use it on sasuke when he was alive and itachi just used it on himself +its not his own jutsu listen you need to leave your own itachi over hyped views to yourself anyone with commone sense can tell Nagato is on a different level look at all the posts reflect come from an unbiased stand point and Know pain


Even if it is not immune to visual genjustu which is more likely then not his paths inside his body would disturb his chakra and break him out.Nagato is the strongest character we ever seen featured in the manga kishi had to put major handicaps on him and have him controlled to be beaten by top 5 ninja come on dude snap out of this.

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u r dumb read the previous posts pls the ppl were giving nagato powetrs he had lost so i was doing the same to itachi.

a different source of chakra has to break him out his own paths(his own chakra) cannot break him out of it. ,mobility is his weakness it is not a handicap ppl can say the same about itachi's disease. Stop being such a fanboy dude he has weak mobility that is just part of the story. And nagato is not the strongest character in the series neither is itachi. PPl like madara, minato, naruto(eventually) and sasuke with ems(we have to see ore of his powers but very likely) can beat them.

 

[Izanami]

u r dumb read the previous posts pls the ppl were giving nagato powetrs he had lost so i was doing the same to itachi.

a different source of chakra has to break him out his own paths(his own chakra) cannot break him out of it. ,mobility is his weakness it is not a handicap ppl can say the same about itachi's disease. Stop being such a fanboy dude he has weak mobility that is just part of the story. And nagato is not the strongest character in the series neither is itachi. PPl like madara, minato, naruto(eventually) and sasuke with ems(we have to see ore of his powers but very likely) can beat them.

No you have to disturb your own chakra mobilty is not his weakness it is a injury the truth is you cant admit a healthy Nagato v itachi is like a Lion vs Cat .The Cat may be smarter but its cant hurt the lion badly and it cant outlast the Lion either.nagato is 100% the strongest character like i said look past your own bias and read the manga i was a big itachi fan before this but this has got riddiclous

 

[arv993]

No you have to disturb your own chakra mobilty is not his weakness it is a injury the truth is you cant admit a healthy Nagato v itachi is like a Lion vs Cat .The Cat may be smarter but its cant hurt the lion badly and it cant outlast the Lion either.nagato is 100% the strongest character like i said look past your own bias and read the manga i was a big itachi fan before this but this has got riddiclous

dude wow u now use pointless comparisons seriously i kno nagato has good chances to win he is powerful but itachi's chances are better. And look past ur bias dude nagato is not the strongest charcter others can beat him especially ppl like minato and madara. I kno itachi well and not a fanboy like u i kno he cannot beat ppl like minato and madara but i can see him beat nagato. nagato is not a god he has weaknesses he has bad mobility and to characters like itachi can easily blind his other eyes and get him with sword with high difficulty.

 

[ackeem1992]

dude u make some good points but this is a pure 1v1 fight we are talking about, u can see with ease how itachi blinded his other sights and got him with the sword of totsuka. In a 1v1 battle for someone like nagato who has limited movement to pull off the chibaku tensei is dangerous and can easily be hit by the sword, magatama or any other attack, and don't forget that bee and naruto were at forst only hindrances and had to be saved by itachi which allowed nagato to pull of the chibaku tensei and also edo tensei helped him out twice by regenerating him without which he would not be able to most of his techs. in a 1v1 battle i say itachi has the advantage due to his simply faster attacks, intelligence he used to blind nagato's other sights and he has the advantage in speed and movement. nagato is very strong and i agree he has good chances to win but in a 1v1 i see itachi having the better chances just by seeing his use of his techs and intelligence.

well of course he's going to have an advantage nagato is partially cripple, in a 1v1 nagato wouldn't even have to use chibaku tensei, and note nagato was fighting 3 guys in a 1v1 all focus would be on itachi, thus the probability of catching nagato off guard with with totsuka is going to be very low. what faster attacks your talking about? amaterasu was repel with shinra, magatama would be absorbed by preta's ability. the only advantage itachi has is to run away as he please, unlike nagato who lacks mobility.

 

[arv993]

well of course he's going to have an advantage nagato is partially cripple, in a 1v1 nagato wouldn't even have to use chibaku tensei, and note nagato was fighting 3 guys in a 1v1 all focus would be on itachi, thus the probability of catching nagato off guard with with totsuka is going to be very low. what faster attacks your talking about? amaterasu was repel with shinra, magatama would be absorbed by preta's ability. the only advantage itachi has is to run away as he please, unlike nagato who lacks mobility.

yes he wud have complete focus on itachi but like i said he easily blinded his other sights leaving nagato not knowing where the attack is coming from and the sword of totsuka is fast as it got oro without him noticing and as it did to nagato. the probablity is not low but actually quite high, and shinra has a 5 sec limit which for ppl like itachi is big opening. itachi is just gonna run away come on be serious dude. Itachi has bad stamina and lower chakra too compared to nagato but ppl are not complaining about that nagato being cripple is part of the story just accept it.

 

[Uzumaki Sasuke]

well of course he's going to have an advantage nagato is partially cripple, in a 1v1 nagato wouldn't even have to use chibaku tensei, and note nagato was fighting 3 guys in a 1v1 all focus would be on itachi, thus the probability of catching nagato off guard with with totsuka is going to be very low. what faster attacks your talking about? amaterasu was repel with shinra, magatama would be absorbed by preta's ability. the only advantage itachi has is to run away as he please, unlike nagato who lacks mobility.

Itachi is greater than Nagato 4 d following reasons;
1. Tsukuyomi- Itachi's strength is genjutsu, Nagato's weakness is genjutsu. Since Jiraiya got him with genjutsu I'm sure Itachi wud easily get him since he has d strongest genjutsu in d narutoverse. D reason why Itachi didn't bother in using Tsukuyomi is cos there's no point in wasting ur chakra on someone who cannot die.

2. Amateratsu- As seen in d last chapter Itachi already burned Nagato's hands b4 he cud do anything 2 counter it but due 2 d fact dat Nagato is an Edo Tensei it cud not destroy his hands so it regenerated back so he cud repelled it.

3. Totsuka Blade- Seals Nagato's soul. Many ppl say Itachi sealed Nagato but didn't kill him. Pls can u kill an Edo Tensei? Itachi knew d only way 2 kill him was by sealing him so dat's why he did.

4. Yata Mirror- It DEFLECTS ALL THINGS including Shinra Tensei.

5. Yasaka's Magatama- Itachi's strongest long range attack was capable of destroying Chikudan Tensei. 1 or 3 Yasaka's Magatamas wud destroy Chikudan Tensei. D reason why Itachi told all of them 2 contribute was due 2 d fact dat he was saving his chakra 4 future battles in d war. What if d person controllin Nagato sends someone stronger than Nagato 2 fight him immediately afta dis fight? Itachi is smart. He thought far ahead.

6. Smartness- I don't think anyone, even d most biased Nagato fan in Naruto wud oppose 2 d fact dat Itachi is smarter than Nagato

Pls if u wanna post in favor of Nagato only post so as 2 counter ALL my facts.

 

[Renon]

lol @ this thread.. how hard is it to understand 3 vs 1 does not dictate as Itachi being stronger than Nagato.. with that logic that some of you are using Ill go ahead and say Sasuke is stronger than Itachi, Nagato and Jiraiya.

Here are my reasons Obviously Itachi should have never been sick in the first place it obviously hindered his thinking abilities for letting Sasuke kill him. So for all you Sasuke fan boys your little man is now champion of the Naruto Universe yay!

 

[PEIN is the answer]

Itachi is greater than Nagato 4 d following reasons;
1. Tsukuyomi- Itachi's strength is genjutsu, Nagato's weakness is genjutsu. Since Jiraiya got him with genjutsu I'm sure Itachi wud easily get him since he has d strongest genjutsu in d narutoverse. D reason why Itachi didn't bother in using Tsukuyomi is cos there's no point in wasting ur chakra on someone who cannot die.

2. Amateratsu- As seen in d last chapter Itachi already burned Nagato's hands b4 he cud do anything 2 counter it but due 2 d fact dat Nagato is an Edo Tensei it cud not destroy his hands so it regenerated back so he cud repelled it.

3. Totsuka Blade- Seals Nagato's soul. Many ppl say Itachi sealed Nagato but didn't kill him. Pls can u kill an Edo Tensei? Itachi knew d only way 2 kill him was by sealing him so dat's why he did.

4. Yata Mirror- It DEFLECTS ALL THINGS including Shinra Tensei.

5. Yasaka's Magatama- Itachi's strongest long range attack was capable of destroying Chikudan Tensei. 1 or 3 Yasaka's Magatamas wud destroy Chikudan Tensei. D reason why Itachi told all of them 2 contribute was due 2 d fact dat he was saving his chakra 4 future battles in d war. What if d person controllin Nagato sends someone stronger than Nagato 2 fight him immediately afta dis fight? Itachi is smart. He thought far ahead.

6. Smartness- I don't think anyone, even d most biased Nagato fan in Naruto wud oppose 2 d fact dat Itachi is smarter than Nagato

Pls if u wanna post in favor of Nagato only post so as 2 counter ALL my facts.

1. three paths of pein got caught in a senjustu sound based genjustu from two elder frogs you idiot not jaraiya and pein never expected that to happen cause jaraiya does no genjustu so you logic is so off. And people really think the rinnengan has no counter to visual ganjutsu it's the best dojustu and shenanigan came from rinnengan.

4. I am sick a yata mirror if it unstoppable then Itachi is strongest ever and no one can beat him that is not true.

5. You really think Itachis long range is as strong as bee transformation beast bomb you are high and think Itachi to be best ever even above sage of six paths

 

[Renon]

Itachi is greater than Nagato 4 d following reasons;
1. Tsukuyomi- Itachi's strength is genjutsu, Nagato's weakness is genjutsu. Since Jiraiya got him with genjutsu I'm sure Itachi wud easily get him since he has d strongest genjutsu in d narutoverse. D reason why Itachi didn't bother in using Tsukuyomi is cos there's no point in wasting ur chakra on someone who cannot die.

2. Amateratsu- As seen in d last chapter Itachi already burned Nagato's hands b4 he cud do anything 2 counter it but due 2 d fact dat Nagato is an Edo Tensei it cud not destroy his hands so it regenerated back so he cud repelled it.

3. Totsuka Blade- Seals Nagato's soul. Many ppl say Itachi sealed Nagato but didn't kill him. Pls can u kill an Edo Tensei? Itachi knew d only way 2 kill him was by sealing him so dat's why he did.

4. Yata Mirror- It DEFLECTS ALL THINGS including Shinra Tensei.

5. Yasaka's Magatama- Itachi's strongest long range attack was capable of destroying Chikudan Tensei. 1 or 3 Yasaka's Magatamas wud destroy Chikudan Tensei. D reason why Itachi told all of them 2 contribute was due 2 d fact dat he was saving his chakra 4 future battles in d war. What if d person controllin Nagato sends someone stronger than Nagato 2 fight him immediately afta dis fight? Itachi is smart. He thought far ahead.

6. Smartness- I don't think anyone, even d most biased Nagato fan in Naruto wud oppose 2 d fact dat Itachi is smarter than Nagato

Pls if u wanna post in favor of Nagato only post so as 2 counter ALL my facts.

1. Umm okay Nagato had the ability use any technique he wished. Nagato was shown to be adept at the use of genjutsu. He used it to install mental barriers and traps in his minions' minds to prevent others from accessing secret information. not sure how you can say that Nagato Weakness is genjustu but okay I guess you think just cause he was effected by Toad Confrontation Singing used by Fukasaku and Shima thats a weakness.. thats almost like saying because Sasuke got out of Itachi Genjustu that makes Itachi shitty at casting Genjustu.. again wrong.

2. Amateratsu umm okay so Itachi can burn someone hands yay.. your point? Nagato can bring people back from the dead.. okay so umm they both have diffrent abilities.

3. Nagato also has a similar ability if he wanted to use it.. lol Demonic Statue of the Outer Path o snap.. the ability removes the souls of any person it comes in contact with.

4. Okay.. so how long can he use this ability really? and for argument sake if they are both zombies why would it matter?

5. Okay I might have to look and see where Itachi said he was saving energy.. for a future fight but anyways seriously Nagato was still under Obito control.. not exactly an argument here besides the fact that it still took 3 ninja to stop Nagato attack sorry but there is no proof that Itachi could stop it himself just saying.

6. Itachi is smart duh but kinda funny how he overlooked that fact all the time he spent preparing for Sasuke battle that Madara still was able to influence Sasuke.. and he kinda failed in not knowing that Madara was able to extinguish Amateratsu.

It took the combined efforts of Naruto, B and Itachi to defeat Nagato.. Again this argument over this fight is not fair by any means of judging who is better than the other simple as that. It has been stated by many Even Mandara that Nagato is practically invincible just saying.

 

[ackeem1992]

1. three paths of pein got caught in a senjustu sound based genjustu from two elder frogs you idiot not jaraiya and pein never expected that to happen cause jaraiya does no genjustu so you logic is so off. And people really think the rinnengan has no counter to visual ganjutsu it's the best dojustu and shenanigan came from rinnengan.

4. I am sick a yata mirror if it unstoppable then Itachi is strongest ever and no one can beat him that is not true.

5. You really think Itachis long range is as strong as bee transformation beast bomb you are high and think Itachi to be best ever even above sage of six paths

lol don't even bother dude you and i know that itachi would get raped severely.

 

[Jupiter]

not again... :/

 

[arv993]

Itachi is greater than Nagato 4 d following reasons;
1. Tsukuyomi- Itachi's strength is genjutsu, Nagato's weakness is genjutsu. Since Jiraiya got him with genjutsu I'm sure Itachi wud easily get him since he has d strongest genjutsu in d narutoverse. D reason why Itachi didn't bother in using Tsukuyomi is cos there's no point in wasting ur chakra on someone who cannot die.

2. Amateratsu- As seen in d last chapter Itachi already burned Nagato's hands b4 he cud do anything 2 counter it but due 2 d fact dat Nagato is an Edo Tensei it cud not destroy his hands so it regenerated back so he cud repelled it.

3. Totsuka Blade- Seals Nagato's soul. Many ppl say Itachi sealed Nagato but didn't kill him. Pls can u kill an Edo Tensei? Itachi knew d only way 2 kill him was by sealing him so dat's why he did.

4. Yata Mirror- It DEFLECTS ALL THINGS including Shinra Tensei.

5. Yasaka's Magatama- Itachi's strongest long range attack was capable of destroying Chikudan Tensei. 1 or 3 Yasaka's Magatamas wud destroy Chikudan Tensei. D reason why Itachi told all of them 2 contribute was due 2 d fact dat he was saving his chakra 4 future battles in d war. What if d person controllin Nagato sends someone stronger than Nagato 2 fight him immediately afta dis fight? Itachi is smart. He thought far ahead.

6. Smartness- I don't think anyone, even d most biased Nagato fan in Naruto wud oppose 2 d fact dat Itachi is smarter than Nagato

Pls if u wanna post in favor of Nagato only post so as 2 counter ALL my facts.

dude u r right about most of the stuff said here and the reasons u mentioned are reasons why itachi has the better shot at winning than nagato. But we don't kno how strong yasaka is so don't speculate on it that much, it might work or it might not since we do not kno the extent of its powers. Obviously these fanboys are gonna come with a bs reason like mobility is gone so he is not 100% or nagato had an internal struggles with kabuto when itachi sealed him.