[Theory] Itachi is stronger than Nagato

[MuDfAcToRy25]

first the guy did not say anything about that he was just talking about how itachi is the best which i don't agree with actually. But so far what we have been debating was their current states and powers but you went back to him when he had mobility so i was just responding back to your action by saying he can use KA since he lost that too. Isn't this an all out fight i kno he is smart and would never use it but nagato and itachi would never fight in real life either they respect one and another but this is an all out fight and hypothetical ones where ppl are allowed to use any powers that they have to win and KA is one of them. yes he wud never use it but this is just a hypothetically win. And if u notice i don't usually say definitely(i do sometimes when some fanboys keep changing abilities like from pain to nagato whichever makes more suitable to them) but most likely i kno nagato has good chances to win against itachi but i think itachi's chances are better.

respect for saying that. Honestly the parameters of this battle have gotten waaaaaay blurred through this thread. But i think they would've fought when they were at their prime since Nagato wanted to make the tailed beast weapon which obviously posed a massive threat to konoha so itachi might've tried to stop him if he was at full strength. And you have to admit Itachi fanboys do the same: quoting weaknesses of the six paths of pain instead of focusing on just Nagato whenever it suits THEM.

And i just have to point out that i am not a Nagato fanboy, i counterpoint ANY statement that doesn't make sense no matter which one of them it gives an advantage to. I just hate it when people don't look at things closely enough to be logical.

 

[PEIN is the answer]

i never said that he does not have mobility issues he can move a little but cannot do more but he has all his powers to full extent and mobility is his weakness and itachi can beat him most likely, what do u want me to do about it is a weakness of nagato like how stamina is a weakness of itachi, you don't see me yelling at u for him having low stamina, all characters have some weaknesses, just deal with it.

Nagato at 100% is not slow and does not have a mobility problem that's what 100% means like I said before of corse itachi will win if nagato has handicaps yes the slow mobility is a handicap but on equal terms nagato would win. Cause we all seen itachi seal him that is a fact I do not deni but itachi is not stronger then nagato and would loose a one on one.

 

[ackeem1992]

it took arguably three of the strongest ninja's in the present manga to take down a partially cripple guy.

that is saying alot

 

[PEIN is the answer]

if u noticed that is not really the real ninetails but just a hybrid version where the ninetails was trying to take over dude it is not fully ninetails it self, the thing doesn't talk and screams at everything and blows up everything, you really think it is as smart as a regular shinobi. i am talking about the 6 tails pein fought, it had no sense of thought whatsoever.

Ya it's not social but you have to have intelligence to fight the hybrid which I know he was only 6tails has pure fight logic witch would match that of most shin obi so you are wrong

 

[PositiveEmotions]

dude pein didn't stand a chance against 6t he was even force to use the technique chibaku (idk how to tell spell it) tensie pein got beat up by the 6t and naruto is only a teenager and pein is an adult and itachi is allot smarter then all the shinobies shown in the manga accept shikamaru i think their about the same

 

[arv993]

respect for saying that. Honestly the parameters of this battle have gotten waaaaaay blurred through this thread. But i think they would've fought when they were at their prime since Nagato wanted to make the tailed beast weapon which obviously posed a massive threat to konoha so itachi might've tried to stop him if he was at full strength. And you have to admit Itachi fanboys do the same: quoting weaknesses of the six paths of pain instead of focusing on just Nagato whenever it suits THEM.

And i just have to point out that i am not a Nagato fanboy, i counterpoint ANY statement that doesn't make sense no matter which one of them it gives an advantage to. I just hate it when people don't look at things closely enough to be logical.

ok i also think u r not a fanboy but when u mentioned as he was back in akatsuki vs the itachi now i got very confused, i thought you were changing the conditions but actually there is no conditions by the maker so we all argued different things. but yea i admit there are some itachi fanboys who do that and never even change their opinions even if the facts are against it.

 

[PEIN is the answer]

first the guy did not say anything about that he was just talking about how itachi is the best which i don't agree with actually. But so far what we have been debating was their current states and powers but you went back to him when he had mobility so i was just responding back to your action by saying he can use KA since he lost that too. Isn't this an all out fight i kno he is smart and would never use it but nagato and itachi would never fight in real life either they respect one and another but this is an all out fight and hypothetical ones where ppl are allowed to use any powers that they have to win and KA is one of them. yes he wud never use it but this is just a hypothetically win. And if u notice i don't usually say definitely(i do sometimes when some fanboys keep changing abilities like from pain to nagato whichever makes more suitable to them) but most likely i kno nagato has good chances to win against itachi but i think itachi's chances are better.

Ok I agree a nagato that can't move or dodge will loose what a fun debate. Ok now it's pein kakashi and rakage fighting itachi who can't move and his eye power is really weak. Now pein is the best cause he delivered the final blow to kill itachi. That's my manga now every one knows who is better pein

Pein is nagato so plz no one say we are talking about nagato not pein

 

[arv993]

Ya it's not social but you have to have intelligence to fight the hybrid which I know he was only 6tails has pure fight logic witch would match that of most shin obi so you are wrong

seriously dude what the hell r u talkiing about just admit it dude what pein fought against is just not that smart i am not gonna hate on u, but just stop this dude it is insane to think when he was in that state he was actually logical like a human being.

 

[PositiveEmotions]

wow hello guys nagato was being controlled just imagine how that fight would be if nagato was free from edo tensei and was fighting on his own free will

 

[arv993]

Ok I agree a nagato that can't move or dodge will loose what a fun debate. Ok now it's pein kakashi and rakage fighting itachi who can't move and his eye power is really weak. Now pein is the best cause he delivered the final blow to kill itachi. That's my manga now every one knows who is better pein

Pein is nagato so plz no one say we are talking about nagato not pein

dude can u clarify pls idk what really ur point is

 

[PEIN is the answer]

dude pein didn't stand a chance against 6t he was even force to use the technique chibaku (idk how to tell spell it) tensie pein got beat up by the 6t and naruto is only a teenager and pein is an adult and itachi is allot smarter then all the shinobies shown in the manga accept shikamaru i think their about the same

Big difference when you fighting to kill and fighting to capture pein could have killed naruto many times but you can't have a drawn out battle against jinchurikki cause they have to much chakra. And pein only cast chibuk tensei to capture 6t not 8 t also big difference

 

[arv993]

Big difference when you fighting to kill and fighting to capture pein could have killed naruto many times but you can't have a drawn out battle against jinchurikki cause they have to much chakra. And pein only cast chibuk tensei to capture 6t not 8 t also big difference

i agree fighting to kill is different than fighting to capture but naruto did put up a pretty good fight.

 

[PEIN is the answer]

dude can u clarify pls idk what really ur point is

If it's at there current state itachi would win cause if you have low mobility against susano you can not win I agree with that but is it even a debate. What if itachi could not use susano would it be fare no it wouldn't

 

[PositiveEmotions]

Big difference when you fighting to kill and fighting to capture pein could have killed naruto many times but you can't have a drawn out battle against jinchurikki cause they have to much chakra. And pein only cast chibuk tensei to capture 6t not 8 t also big difference

either way he got beat up and naruto would of won regardless bc naruto is the major character is obvious he was gonna win dude both nagato and naruto never lost a battle so it goes to show naruto is probably can beat pein like nothing if naruto has control of his own chakra plus the kyuubis chakra

 

[PEIN is the answer]

i agree fighting to kill is different than fighting to capture but naruto did put up a pretty good fight.

Hence the name naruto shippuden he he

 

[PEIN is the answer]

either way he got beat up and naruto would of won regardless bc naruto is the major character is obvious he was gonna win dude both nagato and naruto never lost a battle so it goes to show naruto is probably can beat pein like nothing if naruto has control of his own chakra plus the kyuubis chakra

Not either way. But still I know it's called naruto I knew he would win and if anyone fight naruto for real it's over so naruto is the strongest

 

[arv993]

If it's at there current state itachi would win cause if you have low mobility against susano you can not win I agree with that but is it even a debate. What if itachi could not use susano would it be fare no it wouldn't

ok i see ur point u want to make it more even on both sides so that it is a good debate, i agree otherwise itachi might have the win a bit easier. But i don't get how u see that six tails naruto who was going insane and who just goes on a rampage is as smart as a regular shinobi.

 

[arv993]

Not either way. But still I know it's called naruto I knew he would win and if anyone fight naruto for real it's over so naruto is the strongest

watch him die at the end. no that would probably never happen he has to become hokage one day but i would seriously be surprised if he does die.

 

[PositiveEmotions]

how many times r we gonna discuss about who has the greater advantage on winning sheesh

 

[arv993]

how many times r we gonna discuss about who has the greater advantage on winning sheesh

yes i think we should end the thread with the verdict as it depends on the situation who would win.