[Theory] Itachi is stronger than Nagato

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kadowade

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Amateseru is ineffective vs Nagato his shinra tensei can get the flames of him he can also revive himself with his path
Tysukami is ineffective agsainst rinnegan as it is a higher dojutsu if it was effective itachi would of used it in the manga first vs him
Susanno can be beaten easily if Nagato used divine attraction which the mirror couldnt defelect seeing as its pulling and then letting his deva path absorb the susanoos chakra and a healthy nagato can dodge the sword seeing as he could outrun the 9 tails with a dead body.This susanoo takes a lot of effort to use if Nagato kept out of his swords reach using his natural speed or flying.Itachi would run out of chakra and die.
Celestial sphere how would itachi survive by himself if he needed 3 people to fire at the same time with there most powerful moves to destroy it so how could he by himself? if you cant see how Nagato is so much stronger then itachi then your as hopeless as the other itachi fanboys.

Amaterasu is effective against nagato, cuz when itachi used it Nagato had no time to react to it ,therefore Nagato got burned and because of Edo Tensei he Regenerated So he can use Shinra Tensei to repel the flames.

So if it wasent for Edo Tensei he wouldve lost his arms permenantly and wouldn't had of been able to use Any Jutsu that require him to press his hands together (Such as Chibaku Tensei)

Sorry but you sound dumb as FK saying that "Itachi's Tsukiyomi dosent work Just Because he Didn't Use It". Pain Didn't Use Chibaku Tensei On Konohamaru..did he...It must've Not had of worked on Konohamaru. See How Stupid that sounds. Itachi didnt HAVE to use it if he aint want to.
ANyway it wouldn't kill him Because He was A Edo Tensei, They cant die. So thats why itachi was smart enough to "SEAL HIM" instead of Tortureing him until death.

And dosent matter if nagato can Fly because the Totsuku Blade Extends in various lengths, and pain rises in the air Slow from what we've seen.

And if Nagato chooses to run like you said, Itachi would just preserve his chakra or course and Deactivate Susano'o, If nagato Gonna Run.

And all itachi had to do is Amaterasu The Black sphere and it will Disenegrate.
Or He couldve did it himself By just using 3 Or more Yasaka No Matagam's BUT there was 2 Perfectly controlled Jinchurki Standing right next to him.....Even i would use them, Its called common sense, if you have two jinchurki doing nothing standing right "there" It only makes sense to use them just incase. And Itachi is a very cautious person and Never underestimates his opponent, so using a Jinchuriki was to Make sure it's destroyed Since NO ONE knows the extent of that black sphere's Endurance. Better Safe, than sorry. So itachi was just Being efficent.

But all itachi needs is Genjutsu really, since it dosent say Rinnegan is resistant to Genjutsu and obviously its not since jiraiya got him. Yet people STILL deny it, and its been proven. The rinnegan dosent make the user resistant to GEnjutsu, All it does it gives the user Ninjutsu power such as Shinra Tensei and Paths and etc. IT has no ocular Genjutsu like the Sharingan Does.
 
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not really like i said nagato would simply stay away but anyway sasuke did manage to hurt pin down itachi with the force of the lighting



yea i know that i was just saying i dont insult ppl wen i argue



lol that was not ment for myself wtf lol

nagato can just stay away but don't u kno itachi can also go closer to him its not really hard.
 

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yea but that doesn't protect him from a spirtual sword which is fast and can break defenses like doton. this just has to pierce him.

faster then the 9 tails? anyway this is all a matter of opinion but i think you could acknowledge that nagato has a better chance i can see how itachi would win but Nagato is too strong any tech would be a problem for itachi and the only thing that Nagato hasnt got a counter for is a sword that he could dodge may i point out that the last 2 people itachi sealed were standing still and tysukami is obviously debatable but like i said wouldnt he have used it first if he thought it would of worked if you look at all the fights itachi has been in he always casts genjutsu first so why didnt he vs the strongest person hes ever faced? because its ineffective vs a higher dojustu
 

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i dont need to read that bc i am well are of wut u r saying i am only saying sasuke pinned down itachi with the full force of kirin its all im saying

well it was not a fully formed susano and even u kno that
 

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faster then the 9 tails? anyway this is all a matter of opinion but i think you could acknowledge that nagato has a better chance i can see how itachi would win but Nagato is too strong any tech would be a problem for itachi and the only thing that Nagato hasnt got a counter for is a sword that he could dodge may i point out that the last 2 people itachi sealed were standing still and tysukami is obviously debatable but like i said wouldnt he have used it first if he thought it would of worked if you look at all the fights itachi has been in he always casts genjutsu first so why didnt he vs the strongest person hes ever faced? because its ineffective vs a higher dojustu

the nine tails did not directly attack him it was just a blast which can be blocked with such defense but this attack is a direct precise pierce from the sword which can easily go through the defense.
 

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well it was not a fully formed susano and even u kno that

oh i know that i am just saying the force that the kirin had pinned own itachi but i think even in full form susano it would still pin down itachi even a little like up to his knees at least
 

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nagato would only simply move farther away from itachi until the 5 seconds r up

its not that simple look at the size of the sword nagato has no speed feats that make him run away that speed.
 

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the nine tails did not directly attack him it was just a blast which can be blocked with such defense but this attack is a direct precise pierce from the sword which can easily go through the defense.

no he pretty much did attack pein and shenri tensei didn't work on the nine tails
 

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its not that simple look at the size of the sword nagato has no speed feats that make him run away that speed.

neither does itachi susano is a little slow nagato has the advantage on moving away from susano faster until susano drains out
 

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oh i know that i am just saying the force that the kirin had pinned own itachi but i think even in full form susano it would still pin down itachi even a little like up to his knees at least

I dont even think he used the Yata Mirror, since it wasent out at 1st. It hit the top of The Susano'o head, and it wasent even the complete form. it was the 1st form, If he uses the Yata Mirror it wouldve Repeled it.

Itachi can Summon Susano'o VERY fast but it takes a few seconds to summon Yata Mirror
 

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neither does itachi susano is a little slow nagato has the advantage on moving away from susano faster until susano drains out

yes this is what i mean on paper Nagato is stronger but Itachi is apparently smarter and ill just go along with that but that makes it sound like Nagato is stupid hes been running a criminal organization for many years without getting caught so hes obviously not dumb :)
 

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I dont even think he used the Yata Mirror, since it wasent out at 1st. It hit the top of The Susano'o head, and it wasent even the complete form. it was the 1st form, If he uses the Yata Mirror it wouldve Repeled it.

Itachi can Summon Susano'o VERY fast but it takes a few seconds to summon Yata Mirror

naw i think it would still do some damage to itachi if not susano bc of the force of kirin but thats just me
 

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oh i know that i am just saying the force that the kirin had pinned own itachi but i think even in full form susano it would still pin down itachi even a little like up to his knees at least

ok that makes sense i thought u meant that he would fall to the ground completely.
 

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yes this is what i mean on paper Nagato is stronger but Itachi is apparently smarter and ill just go along with that but that makes it sound like Nagato is stupid hes been running a criminal organization for many years without getting caught so hes obviously not dumb :)

yea i know i agree neither itachi nor nagato is dumb
 

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naw i think it would still do some damage to itachi if not susano bc of the force of kirin but thats just me

In his complete form i think it would do nothing since an Extra Armor is PLaced around it.

1st stage survived Kirin, 2nd Stage has the Yata Mirror which wouldve Repeled the lightnening back. 3rd stage is the Extra Armor around it

Although it might budge Susano'o though but it shouldnt knock it down or anything
 

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neither does itachi susano is a little slow nagato has the advantage on moving away from susano faster until susano drains out

but how would he dodge the sword u r forgetting that he hasn't shown much speed feats. and itachi is not that slow when he is in susano he saved naruto and bee pretty fast. If nagato tries to escape itachi wud try to get him with the sword and nagato is not really fast.
 

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yes this is what i mean on paper Nagato is stronger but Itachi is apparently smarter and ill just go along with that but that makes it sound like Nagato is stupid hes been running a criminal organization for many years without getting caught so hes obviously not dumb :)

Lol its just that everyone who tried wasent strong enough to stop him.
Plus he had madara Behind the scenes.
 
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