[Theory] Itachi is stronger than Nagato

[Turson]

Tsukiyomi is useless against Nagatos six paths, it wont affect Nagato. Normal genjutsu is useless, becuase if Itachi will trap one path in it Nagato will know that from the very start, seeing how vision coming from that path will differ from others. Amatersu can be absorbed, vanquished with Shinra Tensei or pulled out with Bansho Tenin. Susanoo can be absorbed, or trapped in Chibaku Tensei. Nagato has counter for every one of Itachis techniques.

 

[arv993]

i know wut u mean he couldnt dodge that bc he was busy with naruto and killer bee if nagato didnt have kb than it would b a different story o and naruto to

dude but is also a different story with the sword that extends the range, first of all nagato has not shown anything against it that even if he dodges it and if he did it would be very close and would affect him hurt his arms and injure him especially since the sword has a much longer range than just the hands. Dude and nagato is not that fast and even in the manga the sword of totsuka got him in a sec nagato can't escape and would be hit in or 2 tries.

 

[arv993]

lol what are you talking about. nagato's arm was caught by the susanoo arm.

if you read carefully the manga or look at it here:

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it clearly shows itachi grab naruto with the arms of susanoo and one arm of nagato got caught on it.. not shockwave or anything lol. dude you're exaggerating things clearly you see things as an itachi fanboy/nagato hater.

you dumbass need to stop saying this non sense.

itachi can't take 2 jinchuurikis alone. but nagato did with ease. that alone can prove how superior nagato is compare to itachi.

nagato got hurt from u can see in the page how his whole body was slowed down and weakened. Read the next page yes itachi grabbed naruto and bee but nagato just got hurt by itachi hitting nagato very close but his whole body was affected by it.

 

[raxy]

I would say Nagato = Itachi, I dont see anyone weaker than the other.

 

[arv993]

Tsukiyomi is useless against Nagatos six paths, it wont affect Nagato. Normal genjutsu is useless, becuase if Itachi will trap one path in it Nagato will know that from the very start, seeing how vision coming from that path will differ from others. Amatersu can be absorbed, vanquished with Shinra Tensei or pulled out with Bansho Tenin. Susanoo can be absorbed, or trapped in Chibaku Tensei. Nagato has counter for every one of Itachis techniques.

We don't kno if genjutsu works or not especially on the lvl of tsukiyomi won't work or not when every1 is in body like how nagato was. sussano can be absorbed but has to be in close range and if nagato comes in close range he is dead becus of sword of totsuka, and chibaku tensei is a slow attack compared to the sword of totsuka which itachi can get him with if gets close enough, and if everything else fails itachi can even use 1 izangi and sacrifice one eye and make evrything a dream and finish off nagato but that is like a last resort.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

Itachi is greater than Nagato 4 d following reasons;
1. Tsukuyomi- Itachi's strength is genjutsu, Nagato's weakness is genjutsu. Since Jiraiya got him with genjutsu I'm sure Itachi wud easily get him since he has d strongest genjutsu in d narutoverse. D reason why Itachi didn't bother in using Tsukuyomi is cos there's no point in wasting ur chakra on someone who cannot die.

2. Amateratsu- As seen in d last chapter Itachi already burned Nagato's hands b4 he cud do anything 2 counter it but due 2 d fact dat Nagato is an Edo Tensei it cud not destroy his hands so it regenerated back so he cud repelled it.

3. Totsuka Blade- Seals Nagato's soul. Many ppl say Itachi sealed Nagato but didn't kill him. Pls can u kill an Edo Tensei? Itachi knew d only way 2 kill him was by sealing him so dat's why he did.

4. Yata Mirror- It DEFLECTS ALL THINGS including Shinra Tensei.

5. Yasaka's Magatama- Itachi's strongest long range attack was capable of destroying Chikudan Tensei. 1 or 3 Yasaka's Magatamas wud destroy Chikudan Tensei. D reason why Itachi told all of them 2 contribute was due 2 d fact dat he was saving his chakra 4 future battles in d war. What if d person controllin Nagato sends someone stronger than Nagato 2 fight him immediately afta dis fight? Itachi is smart. He thought far ahead.

6. Smartness- I don't think anyone, even d most biased Nagato fan in Naruto wud oppose 2 d fact dat Itachi is smarter than Nagato

Pls if u wanna post in favor of Nagato only post so as 2 counter ALL my facts

1.thats a stupid execuse if he could of caught nagato in genjutsu ,he would of like in all his battles hes ever had he uses genjutsu first because then Nagato would be easy to just stab the reason he didnt use it is because its most likely ineffective
2.Like someone already said there are numerous ways to get rid of amateseru asorbed and shinra tensei the best options
3.bringing up edo tensei abilty is silly seeing as itachi is under its effects too, this magical blade isnt as fast as you make out in the manga certainly not as fast as Nagato dodging the 9 tails besides all the times he stabbed people with it they have been standing still lol
4.deflects things but divine attraction pulling him towards Nagato and asorbing his susanoo is a win for Nagato
5.Ok so if he didnt need help why would he ask for help ,if he could destroy it by himself as seen in the battle with the 9 tails very powerful attacks attacking by themselves is not enough to destroy it and the celestial sphere is much stronger .
6.like in a previous post how can you say that did they have an IQ test? ill humour you and say that he is.

dude but is also a different story with the sword that extends the range, first of all nagato has not shown anything against it that even if he dodges it and if he did it would be very close and would affect him hurt his arms and injure him especially since the sword has a much longer range than just the hands. Dude and nagato is not that fast and even in the manga the sword of totsuka got him in a sec nagato can't escape and would be hit in or 2 tries.

This sword is the only real thing that is effective but how can you say nagato cant dodge a sword ? this sword has sealed two people standing still and in the anime it didnt look fast he went back and when stabbed orichimaro wasnt instant like your making out.

 

[khaydz5]

nagato got hurt from u can see in the page how his whole body was slowed down and weakened. Read the next page yes itachi grabbed naruto and bee but nagato just got hurt by itachi hitting nagato very close but his whole body was affected by it.

are you on drugs?
what you say is FAAR from what i quoted. i just prove to you that its not the "shockwave" that cut the arm of nagato, its the actual arm of the susanoo that cuts it to make nagato release naruto..sheesh..

nagato can't get hurt coz he's a zombie. nagato can't get weakened by that coz it'll just regenerate.duh!

 

[arv993]

are you on drugs?
what you say is FAAR from what i quoted. i just prove to you that its not the "shockwave" that cut the arm of nagato, its the actual arm of the susanoo that cuts it to make nagato release naruto..sheesh..

nagato can't get hurt coz he's a zombie. nagato can't get weakened by that coz it'll just regenerate.duh!

i am sorry i didn't mean to exagerate and say shockwave but being close to it hurt nagato was clearly hurt and slowed down in the next page, my point is nagato would get hurt fairly hurt and not regenerate that fast if he is not an edo tensei zombie.

 

[arv993]

1.thats a stupid execuse if he could of caught nagato in genjutsu ,he would of like in all his battles hes ever had he uses genjutsu first because then Nagato would be easy to just stab the reason he didnt use it is because its most likely ineffective
2.Like someone already said there are numerous ways to get rid of amateseru asorbed and shinra tensei the best options
3.bringing up edo tensei abilty is silly seeing as itachi is under its effects too, this magical blade isnt as fast as you make out in the manga certainly not as fast as Nagato dodging the 9 tails besides all the times he stabbed people with it they have been standing still lol
4.deflects things but divine attraction pulling him towards Nagato and asorbing his susanoo is a win for Nagato
5.Ok so if he didnt need help why would he ask for help ,if he could destroy it by himself as seen in the battle with the 9 tails very powerful attacks attacking by themselves is not enough to destroy it and the celestial sphere is much stronger .
6.like in a previous post how can you say that did they have an IQ test? ill humour you and say that he is.


This sword is the only real thing that is effective but how can you say nagato cant dodge a sword ? this sword has sealed two people standing still and in the anime it didnt look fast he went back and when stabbed orichimaro wasnt instant like your making out.

he caught him in between oro's next word oro did not even notice it and it did get nagato very fast in the manga.
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b4 he even noticed it the sword got him dude the sword is pretty fast and seems to extend also.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

he caught him in between oro's next word oro did not even notice it and it did get nagato very fast in the manga.
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b4 he even noticed it the sword got him dude the sword is pretty fast and seems to extend also.

how can you tell if its fast in the manga?11:57 he stabbed him while he was talking you can clearly see susanoo putting its sword back and then stabbing thats your definition of speed ?

 

[ssDeadly]

the truth is none of the Nagato wankers have explained why tsukuyomi is ineffective.

in a reall non edo tensie fight tsukuyomi can 1 shot nagato

 

[ssDeadly]

how can you tell if its fast in the manga?11:57 he stabbed him while he was talking you can clearly see susanoo putting its sword back and then stabbing thats your definition of speed ?

omg omg omg

i really do hope you relise manga is read backwards. not forwards like your normal american comic book

if you don't i have some bad news for you

 

[khaydz5]

i am sorry i didn't mean to exagerate and say shockwave but being close to it hurt nagato was clearly hurt and slowed down in the next page, my point is nagato would get hurt fairly hurt and not regenerate that fast if he is not an edo tensei zombie.

he would not get hit by that in the first place if he is not in edo tensei.. specially 1vs1

 

[arv993]

how can you tell if its fast in the manga?11:57 he stabbed him while he was talking you can clearly see susanoo putting its sword back and then stabbing thats your definition of speed ?

oro did not even notice it that should tell u its speed watch it clearly he is talking and as soon as oro mentions sasuke, Itachi immediately gets him without him not even noticing which shows that its fast and the same thing happens in the manga look nagato was standing there and right below he gets hit he had no time to react, it tells u his speed. nagato himself did not dodge it at that speed what more do u want to show that nagato can't dodge it.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

omg omg omg

i really do hope you relise manga is read backwards. not forwards like your normal american comic book

if you don't i have some bad news for you

naruto shippuden episode 138 11:57
its unlikely its effective because itachi would of used it first like he does in every fight + the rinnegan is the strongest dojustu so its much more likely thats its ineffective

 

[arv993]

he would not get hit by that in the first place if he is not in edo tensei.. specially 1vs1

yea he would nagato is not really that fast.

 

[ssDeadly]

naruto shippuden episode 138 11:57
its unlikely its effective because itachi would of used it first like he does in every fight + the rinnegan is the strongest dojustu so its much more likely thats its ineffective

its never been stated that genjutsu is not effective against rinnegan. infact it was said pain's weakness is genjutsu.

please don't make up facts people won't take you srsly also you didn't evan know that manga is read backwards. wow

 

[arv993]

naruto shippuden episode 138 11:57
its unlikely its effective because itachi would of used it first like he does in every fight + the rinnegan is the strongest dojustu so its much more likely thats its ineffective

itachi did not have a fully formed susano in the beginning he had to go help naruto and bee right there on the spot or else they would not be here.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

oro did not even notice it that should tell u its speed watch it clearly he is talking and as soon as oro mentions sasuke, Itachi immediately gets him without him not even noticing which shows that its fast and the same thing happens in the manga look nagato was standing there and right below he gets hit he had no time to react, it tells u his speed. nagato himself did not dodge it at that speed what more do u want to show that nagato can't dodge it.

im going to break it down
itachi open his eyes
Susanoo activates
the sword goes back
the sword goes through the air
the sword hits him and you forgot the part where he says you think a small cut could kill him clearly meaning that he didnt bother trying to get out of the way just face it your sword is not as fast as your making it out your over hyping it like itachi.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

its never been stated that genjutsu is not effective against rinnegan. infact it was said pain's weakness is genjutsu.

please don't make up facts people won't take you srsly also you didn't evan know that manga is read backwards. wow

read my post i was talking about the anime stop talking rubbish yeah it was stated genjustu was his weakness but they used sound genjutsu and it worked on 1 out of 3 of the paths