[Theory] Itachi is stronger than Nagato

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arv993

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lol you are not even giving valid evidences.. don't call someone a fanboy coz you'r one of them. you always fail to reason out anything you are saying.

i gave you some scenario to ponder but you ignore it coz you don't know what to say anymore and had to think an excuse on how to defend itachi. you're the one here who can't come up with counter arguments with sense.

what scenario(i will give u an answer) and i always gave valid reasons and links from the manga. You were also one of those kids who once told me to go look at the polls when i said madara wud beat nagato becus u could not come up with a valid answer. That is what true fanboyism is called.
 

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dude they r fanboys. ppl who provide valid evidence from the manga are called debaters but there those fanbboys of nagato who use polls to support their arguments when they cannot come up with counter arguments, or just say opinions and as if they are facts and some just state crap like rinnegan>sharingan

So far I think I'm the only debater on this thread, and I'm not a big fan of neither Itachi or Negato. They are both overhyped, but when someone goes overboard, I have to let them know, And you Itachi "fans" went overboard lol
 

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You also have to take into consideration that Nagato did not have his 6 dead bodies.
 

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So far I think I'm the only debater on this thread, and I'm not a big fan of neither Itachi or Negato. They are both overhyped, but when someone goes overboard, I have to let them know, And you Itachi "fans" went overboard lol

You don't Think the Nagato fans went a little overboard, by blurtting out "Rinnegan is resistant To Genjutsu" When that has already been proven by Jiraiya it's not. lol
 

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So far I think I'm the only debater on this thread, and I'm not a big fan of neither Itachi or Negato. They are both overhyped, but when someone goes overboard, I have to let them know, And you Itachi "fans" went overboard lol

overboard have u seen all the things some nagato fanboys say. When tthey can't provide valid reasons some of them list nagato's achievements which are totally irrelevant and some of them go tell to look at polls which are almost useless becus they vary so much and some ppl vote for who they like better. a good example would be when there was a thread "best akatsuki" and Itachi was no.1 by over like 30 votes its obviously not true and madra is clearly better than him, even Itachi in the manga states that. clearly u favor nagato over itachi cos i did not see u say anything to nagato fanboys who stated utter crap.
 
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Itachi's strong point is his genjutsu but rinnegan can see chakra to the highest degree, and so it would allow the user to know that they're under genjutsu, and therefore allowing them to break out of it quickly
 

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hey just because itachi shows new jutsu that mean he is stronger then nagato i dont think so.. itachi against nagato. itachi is in genin levelto nagato
 

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some of the reasons itachi can win are
1. We are not 100% sure if nagato is genjutsu immune so itachi's genjutsu might work and if it does then he wins but lets take that out of the equation for now but still a good possibility
2. he has susano with yata mirror(which blocks any attack as it is said in the manga) and sword of totsuka which almost make him invincible(said in the manga). His attacks from the sword are fast and even got nagato and is one hit seal. If nagato got close to absorb it he is pretty much sealed
3. he can stop any of the summons with amaterasu or seal them(shown in the manga)
4. and if all else fails he can use 1 izangi and turn everything into a dream and use that opening to seal nagato.
5.Itachi is one of the smartest ninja in the series and he can find the weaknesses of his opponents very fast as he showed us in the manga
 
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Itachi's strong point is his genjutsu but rinnegan can see chakra to the highest degree, and so it would allow the user to know that they're under genjutsu, and therefore allowing them to break out of it quickly

Seeing chakra dosent get you out of a Genjutsu. Nor do it makes the victim know their in A Genjutsu. Like you said Rinnegan, can "See Chakra". thats irrevelant. Seeing chakra, and escaping a Genjutsu is 2 diffrent Things
 

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what scenario(i will give u an answer) and i always gave valid reasons and links from the manga. You were also one of those kids who once told me to go look at the polls when i said madara wud beat nagato becus u could not come up with a valid answer. That is what true fanboyism is called.

what a dumbass you are.. i gave you vast amount of facts but the one you remember is a sarcasm frm me. dude you don't gave valid reasons ever. you always give reasons based on your fanboyism and not from facts.

here's what you said:
there is no prrof against genjutsu not working on nagato, and it says in the manga that susano can block any attack and shinra tensei is an attack. Itachi blocked kirin a really powerful attack why not shinra tensei.

and i say:
its also the same way that there is no proof nagato can get caught by itachi's genjutsu. either way you're just assuming non sense things.

think of this kid, BANSHO TENIN is an attack. can you imagine how yata mirror can block it?

AND if yata mirror can block any attack.why not use it against chibaku tensei? what excuse can you think? you fail kid.
 

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Seeing chakra dosent get you out of a Genjutsu. Nor do it makes the victim know their in A Genjutsu. Like you said Rinnegan, can "See Chakra". thats irrevelant. Seeing chakra, and escaping a Genjutsu is 2 diffrent Things
ok let me give you a lesson on genjutsu.....Genjutsu is created when a ninja extends their chakra flow through the cerebral nervous system of their opponent to control their mind's chakra...and to break free you need to stop the flow of chakra in their body, and then apply an even stronger power to disrupt the flow of the caster's chakra......
 

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what a dumbass you are.. i gave you vast amount of facts but the one you remember is a sarcasm frm me. dude you don't gave valid reasons ever. you always give reasons based on your fanboyism and not from facts.

here's what you said:


and i say:
its also the same way that there is no proof nagato can get caught by itachi's genjutsu. either way you're just assuming non sense things.

think of this kid, BANSHO TENIN is an attack. can you imagine how yata mirror can block it?

AND if yata mirror can block any attack.why not use it against chibaku tensei? what excuse can you think? you fail kid.

yea it can't block chibaku tensei that seals u inside of it, it is not an attack the type of physical attack. yata mirror does not block against genjutsu which are also attacks, it is any attack directed towards it where as chibaku tensei covers u up in rocks that is not a noraml attack. if bansho tenin is used nagato is pulling itachi closer to him itachi can use his sword like how nagato used his kyubi arm to escape or just attack with the sword.
 

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some of the reasons itachi can win are
1. We are not 100% sure if nagato is genjutsu immune so itachi's genjutsu might work and if it does then he wins but lets take that out of the equation for now but still a good possibility
2. he has susano with yata mirror(which blocks any attack as it is said in the manga) and sword of totsuka which almost make him invincible(said in the manga). His attacks from the sword are fast and even got nagato and is one hit seal. If nagato got close to absorb it he is pretty much sealed
3. he can stop any of the summons with amaterasu or seal them(shown in the manga)
4. and if all else fails he can use 1 izangi and turn everything into a dream and use that opening to seal nagato.
5.Itachi is one of the smartest ninja in the series and he can find the weaknesses of his opponents very fast as he showed us in the manga

1. no one knows if it works or not but the last manga gives a hint that it WONT work. reread manga and ask some adult to explain it for you.

2. countless explanation for this.. a fanboy is a fanboy. it is also said in the manga that rinnegan > sharingan. susanoo is part of sharingan power. need i explain more?

3. funny mofo. when in the manga itachi seal a summon? don't make stories...

4. THIS IS YOUR MOST FAIL POST BY FAR. itachi can't use IZANAGI for F sake. if you read manga it requires senju blood/dna. and itachi dont have it. don't even try to give BS that itachi MIGHT have senju blood coz you effin fail here dude!!!

5. yes he can find the weakness very quickly but he don't have always the power to do it for himself. nuff said

yea it can't block chibaku tensei that seals u inside of it, it is not an attack the type of physical attack. yata mirror does not block against genjutsu which are also attacks, it is any attack directed towards it where as chibaku tensei covers u up in rocks that is not a noraml attack. if bansho tenin is used nagato is pulling itachi closer to him itachi can use his sword like how nagato used his kyubi arm to escape or just attack with the sword.

stop there. you answered it yourself. so you still believe yata mirror can block any attack?! i just made you pawn yourself here kid.
 
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what a dumbass you are.. i gave you vast amount of facts but the one you remember is a sarcasm frm me. dude you don't gave valid reasons ever. you always give reasons based on your fanboyism and not from facts.

here's what you said:


and i say:
its also the same way that there is no proof nagato can get caught by itachi's genjutsu. either way you're just assuming non sense things.

think of this kid, BANSHO TENIN is an attack. can you imagine how yata mirror can block it?

AND if yata mirror can block any attack.why not use it against chibaku tensei? what excuse can you think? you fail kid.

LMAO you think just because someone dosen't use a Technique, It dosen't work.

OK Why didn't Pain use Chibaku Tensei on Konohamaru? Cause he can do WHATEVER THE FK HE WANTS. SO stop saying just because itachi didnt use a certain technique, it dosent work.

And Arv said stuff from the manga, And why do you keep denying That nagato isnt resistant to Genjutsu Jiraiya already proved that
Genjutsu is effective against Nagato, thats clear as Day.

And we dont know if Bansho Tensei can move susano'o Because we dont know the Mass and weight of Susano'o, and how much Pain can lift for an amount of time. (Although it would be stupid bringing Susano'o Towards you)
 

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1. no one knows if it works or not but the last manga gives a hint that it WONT work. reread manga and ask some adult to explain it for you.

2. countless explanation for this.. a fanboy is a fanboy. it is also said in the manga that rinnegan > sharingan. susanoo is part of sharingan power. need i explain more?

3. funny mofo. when in the manga itachi seal a summon? don't make stories...

4. THIS IS YOUR MOST FAIL POST BY FAR. itachi can't use IZANAGI for F sake. if you read manga it requires senju blood/dna. and itachi dont have it. don't even try to give BS that itachi MIGHT have senju blood coz you effin fail here dude!!!

5. yes he can find the weakness very quickly but he don't have always the power to do it for himself. nuff said

you are just ignorant. members of the uchiha can use it at the cost of one eye, it is kinjutsu in their clan becos of it and its better if it is accompanied by the senju dna go read the manga and stop wasting my time. uchiha members can use it senju dna makes it more efficient. And he seals anything he pierces just to let u kno. Ur the fanboy for not seeing the facts khadyz
 
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ok let me give you a lesson on genjutsu.....Genjutsu is created when a ninja extends their chakra flow through the cerebral nervous system of their opponent to control their mind's chakra...and to break free you need to stop the flow of chakra in their body, and then apply an even stronger power to disrupt the flow of the caster's chakra......

Exactly and itachi can disturb your flow, which disturbs you from releasing it. By increasing Pain or Discomfort therfore interupting your release process so trying to escape is almost usless.
 
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