Itachi is physically faster than minato

[FourthLegacy]

Look at his freaking reflexes...and at the raikages top speed too.

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Itachi isn't that fast :I..

His base speed and reflexes are way faster than itachis.

 

[Bogard]

Well if his speed is so superior he doesnt need to resort to cheap tactics. Having superior speed would allow his to strike obito 1st when obito is solidified.
And yet u all overlooked the fact that 14y obito was more then a match for minato's base speed.

And you overlooked the fact Minato stated he would match Obito's speed on purpose in order to land a hit on him at the last moment

 

[NarutoKage2]

1. Shunshin =/= base speed.
2. He didnt throw his kunai at max speed, otherwise he wouldnt be able to counter attack at right time.
3. Minato teleported at the right position just b4 impact and caught his already slow kunai.

1. No proof itachi did'nt use shunshin either. Especially since his best friend shisui was renowned for it. In which case this is a pointless thread.
2. Try throwing anything at normal speed that can cover that distance while running in a forward direction and try keeping up with it. You'd realize how incredible that speed feat was.
3. What? He teleported to his kunai, in mid air and if you look at the page you'll see it was close to obito's head, while minato who was facing forwards, would've had to at the very least swing his arm around in a 90 degree arc, if not his entire body. And after impacting, he'd have to rotate his hand to attach the ftg seal on obito. All while stranded in mid air, not more than a fraction of a second, he's not a large distance from the ground.

 

[Turson]

@Turson I am aware which is why I said that this isn't as impressive as back when he saved kakashi. Obito wanted him to teleport out. Hence he launched Naruto into the air with an explosive tag. Minato even here used Body Flicker and then teleported.

Ah, I see. But what do you mean by "even then". Personally, I see no vague difference between so called "base speed" and Shunshin. I mean, I know there is a technical difference, since Shunshin is ninja technique, but in the end in both cases its just foot speed. Even A relies on Shunshin.

 

[maxwellwilson02]

I consider shunshin base speed as it is pretty much a ninja running at his full speed using their chakra

 

[UchiGod Itachi]

Here is one of minato's better speed feats.

Here you see him quite a far away from where the kyuubi is, And almost instantly he appeared ontop of the kyuubi and did summoning jutsu. He Blitzed that distance in no time at all.

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Other ninja's were shown with great pyschial speed features that surpassed minato killer bee has done the samething and couldn't keep with Itachi

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[Strawberry]

I consider shunshin base speed as it is pretty much a ninja running at his full speed using their chakra

agreed shunsin is base.. even enhanced with chakra

 

[shelke]

Ah, I see. But what do you mean by "even then". Personally, I see no vague difference between so called "base speed" and Shunshin. I mean, I know there is a technical difference, since Shunshin is ninja technique, but in the end in both cases its just foot speed. Even A relies on Shunshin.

Body Flicker is a ninjutsu and utilizes chakra proportional to the distance covered. I wouldn't call it foot speed as it's similar to telepotation to an extent. The greater the distance, the larger the chakra and vice versa.

 

[Bogard]

Other ninja's were shown with great pyschial speed features that surpassed minato killer bee has done the samething and couldn't keep with Itachi

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That's called shunshin no jutsu, something that every ninja uses. Only that people like Minato or Raikage were more known for it. Btw what were you saying concerning Bee?

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[Renpatsu Dei]

Its been said before that Minato's base speed and reflexes are ridiculous, I'll find the quote

 

[AlphaScythian]

Bold's are completely baseless.
So minato can react to A's speed, But couldn't React/Counter attack to the speed of a Kunai?
Seems legit.

Bold is not completely baseless lol.
If u on the run then drop some object the very same object has initial kinetic speed.
If minato had really used more effort to throw that kunai, then he wouldnt be able to catch it w/o shunshin that he might have used to catch up to that kunai, however it would imply unnecessary waste of chakra and its really better just to let go that kunai.
As i said minato can teleport and chose where to and also chose exact position. He can also time his body momentum so he can save some time.
In other words he can start punching here and then finish a punch after jump. Catching a kunai there wouldnt be a problem due to reasons i mentioned above.
Minato reacted to A speed due to just enough distance. Minato doesnt have shringan or anything to have better perception then MS sasuke who couldnt track A from close distance. Minato was just lucky that he had enough distance to barely dodge A

 

[Turson]

The greater the distance, the larger the chakra and vice versa.

Of course, but still Shinobi are moving on their feet while using it, its nothing like teleportation. Like I said, even A relies on Shunshin, yet he was regarded as the fastest shinobi alive.

 

[shelke]

shunshin isn't teleportation.
Next because shunshin is a jutsu that practically every ninja uses it is associated with base because that is the norm.

If however you try to exclude shunshin as base, and claim base to be no jutsu whatsoever then Gai and Lee take the cake.
But again that isn't what base is.

Always nice to see that for a hot thread add itachi and minato and you get it

Read my post again: I said 'to an extent' as a large distance is covered fairly quickly depending upon the chakra invested whilst the body leaves a 'flickering image' of itself.

It should not be counted as Base as each Ninja has different skill for it. Take Minato, Itachi, and even Sasuke; all these characters are great at using it, others lack this kind of proficiency.

@Turson I know it isn't S/T teleportation. I said it can be considered 'to an extent', meaning you can attribute the 'fast flickering movement' to the sudden shift to a new location in teleportation.

 

[Strawberry]

this tings still going on..... next time i need entertainment i know what vs thread i have to make...

 

[Dark Artist]

FAIL THREAD

minato is way faster even without thunder god thing

no wonder why NB is boring now because of stupid itachi threads like this

most overrated character in history

 

[Bogard]

What happened in the manga is that minato left his kunai behind and teleported to another then back. Anime suggest that the kunai minato has slightly thrown upward travels at far superior speed then A, which is total BS.

I hope this could help you to see your mistake?

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Sorry for the bad drawing but do you notice where the kunai was when Raikage was already near Minato's face? It was near Raikage's knee, yet on the bottom you can see it was above his shoulder. Do you think it magically came there? No, it's Minato who threw the kunai there. The anime was right

 

[AlphaScythian]

I hope this could help you to see your mistake?

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Sorry for the bad drawing but do you notice where the kunai was when Raikage was already near Minato's face? It was near Raikage's knee, yet on the bottom you can see it was above his shoulder. Do you think it magically came there? No, it's Minato who threw the kunai there. The anime was right

And u do realize that while minato was at the other kunai, A was already past that kunai that minato has thrown upwards?

 

[Strawberry]

I hope this could help you to see your mistake?

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Sorry for the bad drawing but do you notice where the kunai was when Raikage was already near Minato's face? It was near Raikage's knee, yet on the bottom you can see it was above his shoulder. Do you think it magically came there? No, it's Minato who threw the kunai there. The anime was right

think he's refering to the speed of the kunai and comparing it to ay's speed

 

[veggetta13]

I think you should just keep on watching Sons of Anarchy. :bouncy:

I do put the both, Minato and Itachi around the same speed praise. Also we haven´t got much info, or none at all on how ppl from other villages admired or followed Itachi´s abilities as he was always a running ghost character. Meaning you don´t get a guy a saying: wow, retreat, there comes"... In the sense that he couldn´t collect as much rep as let´s say Killer Bee, Madara, Jiraiya, A, or whomever.

I do not care or anything about the stats book....manga is the real shiit

 

[AlphaScythian]

Doesnt matter the kunai appears behind Ay due to combined speed as some time has passed. The pathetic one of that kunai and pretty fast of the Ay. Minato only gave some impulse upwards to that kunai.
But fans dig to much into anime and think its canon, then try to use it as valid argument.