Itachi is Overrated.

[Hyuga Deji]

Hey!!!!enough Of all this sharing an bullshit I think it's about time some credit is been given to byakugan already. After all, all eye techniques came from one.

 

[King Of Pop]

someone actually is a ten ten fan i never thought i will see that anyways i agree nagato>itachi but it wont be easy

 

[King Of Pop]

Hey!!!!enough Of all this sharing an bullshit I think it's about time some credit is been given to byakugan already. After all, all eye techniques came from one.

it sucks compared to the rinnegan and sharingan

 

[Zayon Uchiha]

Yea I agree that Nagoto would kick itachi's ass!

 

[Enchanted Champion]

Are you honestly still grasping at that Tsukuyomi argument. Complete and utter wank. All things point to it not working. Nagato mastered Yin Release at age 10, and obviously this is the main component of genjutsu. He mastered it at age 10. Nagato was also capable of setting genjutsu traps in people's minds, something which many overlook. And finally, most importantly i'd say, Nagato possess a superior dojutsu to Itachi. 2 levels superior infact. That's like saying someone with a 3 tomoe sharingan could break out of an EMS user's genjutsu. Laughable. Yet the fanboys remain convinced he could one shot Nagato with that technique. Do me a favour. All low level Genjutsu techniques are rendered useless by Nagato's chakra rods which are implanted among his 7 summons. These rods constantly having chakra flowing through them, so Nagato can easily dispell such techniques by interrupting the chakra flow within them.

Some say Nagato is 'weak against genjustu' which is pathetic. He was caught in Jiraiya's sound genjutsu, which is totally different to visual genjutsu. I recall that Itachi was caught in Tayuya's sound genjutsu, and Sasuke had to break him out of it. Does this mean Itachi is weak against genjutsu? Now you can understand how retarded that statement (Nagato weak against genjutsu) really is. What's even funnier is that Tayuya's genjutsu is of a lower level to Jiraiya's. Nagato is actually quite proficient in the art of genjutsu.

All Itachi fanboys read this post. iShodaime one shotted you U_U

 

[TenTen Fanbase]

Tayuya did get them both in genjutsu.So does that mean Tayuya > Itachi and Sasuke.

 

[FizzyDrink]

Ok, I'll simplify things for you Itachi believers.

Itachi has Tsukiyomi? Nagato is a sensor. He closes his eyes, fights by sensing. Or flies out of reach of eye contact. Or uses his summons in shared vision, and doesn't let Itachi genjutsu them by constantly attacking him and forcing him to pay attention elsewhere.

Itachi has Amaterasu? Nagato has Preta Path.

Itachi has Susanoo with Yata Mirror, and Sword of Totsuka? Nagato can fly out of reach of the sword (the only reason he didn't was the distraction of the dust), and Yata Mirror isn't 360 degrees of protection, so part of Susanoo can be crushed by Chibaku Tensei. And if you think Itachi can destroy Chibaku tensei, you are really clutching at straws. And even if he COULD, he still can't kill Nagato. Eventually, Nagato with his superior stamina would outlast Itachi.

There are you're counters, and I haven't even gone into all of Nagato's techniques.

Also, I get the feeling that genjutsu against shared vision wouldn't work. If it could, than Itachi could have EASILY done that instead of taking out the eyes of Nagato's summons with Kunai and Shuriken. The fact that he didn't in that battle lat least means that he wouldn't in a theoretical battle because he wouldn't have thought of it. Maybe eye genjutsu only works against the one thing, with which the eye is DIRECTLY connected to the brain, rather than by chakra receptors.

 

[Shamami]

Ok, I'll simplify things for you Itachi believers.

Itachi has Tsukiyomi? Nagato is a sensor. He closes his eyes, fights by sensing. Or flies out of reach of eye contact. Or uses his summons in shared vision, and doesn't let Itachi genjutsu them by constantly attacking him and forcing him to pay attention elsewhere.

Itachi has Amaterasu? Nagato has Preta Path.

Itachi has Susanoo with Yata Mirror, and Sword of Totsuka? Nagato can fly out of reach of the sword (the only reason he didn't was the distraction of the dust), and Yata Mirror isn't 360 degrees of protection, so part of Susanoo can be crushed by Chibaku Tensei. And if you think Itachi can destroy Chibaku tensei, you are really clutching at straws. And even if he COULD, he still can't kill Nagato. Eventually, Nagato with his superior stamina would outlast Itachi.

There are you're counters, and I haven't even gone into all of Nagato's techniques.

Also, I get the feeling that genjutsu against shared vision wouldn't work. If it could, than Itachi could have EASILY done that instead of taking out the eyes of Nagato's summons with Kunai and Shuriken. The fact that he didn't in that battle lat least means that he wouldn't in a theoretical battle because he wouldn't have thought of it. Maybe eye genjutsu only works against the one thing, with which the eye is DIRECTLY connected to the brain, rather than by chakra receptors.

if nagato was such a good sensor then how did his paths get hit by SM naruto rasengan around 4-5 times which is slower than itachi's genjutsu.......by the way i knw nagatos a sensor but this is were ur argument fails.

 

[FizzyDrink]

if nagato was such a good sensor then how did his paths get hit by SM naruto rasengan around 4-5 times which is slower than itachi's genjutsu.......by the way i knw nagatos a sensor but this is were ur argument fails.

Yeah, my argument fails, even though I provided other counters to genjutsu. Also the fact that Nagato HIMSELF is a sensor should explain it. His paths aren't sensors. He himself is. But he was far to far away to sense Naruto coming. The only reason he could control his paths was through powerful chakra receptors. This along with my other counters = Nagato beats Itachi. Nice try though.

 

[Prince Charles]

meh it can go either way. itachi intellect determines this alot.

 

[From the Dark Spire]

Heres the thing, I get ok it? Its like ive said before, itachi has been overrated by fans for good reason. Hes sacrificed so much in this business. He destroyed his entire clan, influenced sasuke and naruto, and possibly saved a good amount of the world by ending edo tensei. Now granite he didnt stop edo madara, but lets be serious, madara knew about the technique and plus itachi didnt know about madara. I get it, ok. You have a lot of guys in the back like naruto, shino, sasuke, madara, nagato, bee, myself, but itachi has done it all. Hes definately a naruto hall of famer in the future.

 

[Anti]

Both characters are very strong.
Itachi maybe smart and also possess alot of tactics and what not.
But Nagato still has the edge, reason is Nagato uses more then one body to fight.
Fighting one is hard enough.
Lets just say there both great at fighting but Nagato is just a little ahead when it comes to winning this.

 

[kral]

Lemme hear more about itachi's endless chakra. Its pretty great listening to idiots claiming itachi can win cuz of his Ms techs which he can't spam. Stop using edo feats this isn't about edo itachi

 

[markdabomb22]

Are you honestly still grasping at that Tsukuyomi argument. Complete and utter wank. All things point to it not working. Nagato mastered Yin Release at age 10, and obviously this is the main component of genjutsu. He mastered it at age 10. Nagato was also capable of setting genjutsu traps in people's minds, something which many overlook. And finally, most importantly i'd say, Nagato possess a superior dojutsu to Itachi. 2 levels superior infact. That's like saying someone with a 3 tomoe sharingan could break out of an EMS user's genjutsu. Laughable. Yet the fanboys remain convinced he could one shot Nagato with that technique. Do me a favour. All low level Genjutsu techniques are rendered useless by Nagato's chakra rods which are implanted among his 7 summons. These rods constantly having chakra flowing through them, so Nagato can easily dispell such techniques by interrupting the chakra flow within them.

Some say Nagato is 'weak against genjustu' which is pathetic. He was caught in Jiraiya's sound genjutsu, which is totally different to visual genjutsu. I recall that Itachi was caught in Tayuya's sound genjutsu, and Sasuke had to break him out of it. Does this mean Itachi is weak against genjutsu? Now you can understand how retarded that statement (Nagato weak against genjutsu) really is. What's even funnier is that Tayuya's genjutsu is of a lower level to Jiraiya's. Nagato is actually quite proficient in the art of genjutsu.

This post has done nothing to disprove tsukuyomi.... your bold statement made me laugh just because nagato has a superior doujutsu does not mean that he can automatically break all genjutsu faster or better.your example fails because it depends on what genjutsu is being used,the skill of the caster and the skill of the doujutsu user with that particular doujutsu.....the facts are tsukuyomi is not a regular/low lvl genjutsu.....Itachi's tsukuyomi has yet to be broken out of other then sasuke and thats not even credible becauase itachi threw that fight.... only those with the sharingan ever have a chance of breaking tsukuyomi....and the difficulty of breaking tsukuyomi depends on the casters skill with it... this is from the databook

the only ones who can defeat Tsukuyomi are Sharingan possessors... And even then, exclusively the elite shinobi who have reached particularly high degrees of skillfulness.

and here is itachis statement

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he specifically states that his tsukuyomi can only be broken by a sharingan user with the same blood as him.....so nagato having the rinnegan or even mastering yin release will not assist him in anyway against itachis tsukuyomi.... anyhow i dont believe itachi wins this fight but to say tsukuyomi will not work on nagato at all or that he can break it is false

Peolple say itachi this itachi that.

Itachi vs Nagato.Nagato Is the second sage of the six paths.Nagato can fly for goodness sakes.Deva path basically was soloing the nine tailed fox.

Deva path is enough for itachi.The others are overkill.

Nagato has counters for everything he can throw at him.

Amaterasu:

Nagato uses shinra Tensei to blow the flames away.

Susanoo:

Asura path sucks up susanoo.

Tsukiyomi:Nagato has shared vision to protect him.If its the paths He only cathes one while the others get itachi.

Izanami:Nagato is pure of heart.Wont work.

Totsuka blade:Nagato flys away before he gets caught by it.


Nagato was distracted by Killer Bee and Naruto so thats why he got sealed.
Killer bee and Naruto >Itachi.

Nagato >Itachi

I personally don't believe that itachi will defeat nagato but your reasons are a bit iffy
@bold that made me lol xd where does it say izanami can only be used on non pure hearted people?

 

[GracefulSerenity]

The only reason I disagree is because I believe it could go either way. With Itachi's wisdom and Nagato's powers, who knows what REALLY might go down. 0.o

 

[Kinimaster]

So much wrong with this thread, i dont think im even in the mood to debate about it.

 

[FizzyDrink]

This post has done nothing to disprove tsukuyomi.... your bold statement made me laugh just because nagato has a superior doujutsu does not mean that he can automatically break all genjutsu faster or better.your example fails because it depends on what genjutsu is being used,the skill of the caster and the skill of the doujutsu user with that particular doujutsu.....the facts are tsukuyomi is not a regular/low lvl genjutsu.....Itachi's tsukuyomi has yet to be broken out of other then sasuke and thats not even credible becauase itachi threw that fight.... only those with the sharingan ever have a chance of breaking tsukuyomi....and the difficulty of breaking tsukuyomi depends on the casters skill with it... this is from the databook

the only ones who can defeat Tsukuyomi are Sharingan possessors... And even then, exclusively the elite shinobi who have reached particularly high degrees of skillfulness.

and here is itachis statement

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he specifically states that his tsukuyomi can only be broken by a sharingan user with the same blood as him.....so nagato having the rinnegan or even mastering yin release will not assist him in anyway against itachis tsukuyomi.... anyhow i dont believe itachi wins this fight but to say tsukuyomi will not work on nagato at all or that he can break it is false



I personally don't believe that itachi will defeat nagato but your reasons are a bit iffy
@bold that made me lol xd where does it say izanami can only be used on non pure hearted people?

Just saying, Nagato can still counter Tsukiyomi. Look at my post, I prove it in a different way.

 

[monkeybundle]

Yata mirror cannot reflect all things that nagato uses, for example, chibaku tensei, hell no, susanoo is getting caught in that

 

[itachikakashi]

^^ 100% correct

itachi is not being overrated it's the truth, he has the ability to; it was also demonstrated when he and nagato battled after itachi freed himself from the edo tensei; don't get me wrong nagato is strong, but itachi would win high diff
Ppl keep saying he had naruto and bee on his side but they rarely did anything the only time they helped was the long range attack; itachi was the one that analyzed the situation and thought of a plan =.=" itachi was in fact being underrated

 

[markdabomb22]

Just saying, Nagato can still counter Tsukiyomi. Look at my post, I prove it in a different way.

Yeah i read it thats the same reason i believe that nagato wins but the guy i posted in response to said that nagato can break or is immune to tsukuyomi which is completely false