Itachi Guantlet

[Jugram Haschwalth]

Tobirama isn't that much faster than Itachi, in fact I question if he's even faster at all footspeed wise.

• SM sensing isn't like regular sensing so that's not happeneing.
• Clones get countered by exploding clones etc.

It really isn't when Tobirama's counter to the regular Uchiha genjustu is most likely sensing, while Itachi's genjustu can't be picked up sensing like in the manga. Tobirama countering genjustu simply because he's fought other Uchihas in this case isn't valid.

Still at it huh? Tobirama isn't much faster than Itachi? His striking speed shits on anything Itachi has reacted to and displayed. He manage to tagg Juubito multiple times while blitz by him. Itachi isn't reacting to his striking speed especially not the striking speed of 6 clones plus Tobirama. His sensing doesn't need to be as great as there's when

· All he has to do is sense Itachi's chakra build up and where it's focused.

· Clones once again dismantles Itachi.

· Exploding shadow clones are dodged effortlessly not only will Tobirama and his clones sense the chakra build up in them but his reaction speed would also help him dodge that tech. Clones are used for countering genjutsu. How isn't Itachi genjutsu getting picked up by a sensor when genjutsu will need to be focused in the certain part of his body via Eyes or fingers thus Tobirama will know when/where the genjutsu will appear.

End result. Itachi isn't dodging Tobirama's impressive striking speed. Exploding clones are dodges with ease. Suiton maxxes out Katon techs Itachi gets raped in cqc anything else?

 

[-Akuma-]

Still at it huh? Tobirama isn't much faster than Itachi? His striking speed shits on anything Itachi has reacted to and displayed. He manage to tagg Juubito multiple times while blitz by him. Itachi isn't reacting to his striking speed especially not the striking speed of 6 clones plus Tobirama. His sensing doesn't need to be as great as there's when

Itachi reacted to Kirin at point blank I doubt getting blitzed and managing to stick a paper bomb is mindless Jubbito is leagues better, Tobirama's reaction speed is overrated because of his. Tobirama striking speed wasn't even go enough to tag SM while using FTG to appear out of nowhere, while Itachi has also evaded a assault from KCM Naruto and Bee at the same time and retreated before Naruto and Bee could even take a regular stance afterwards. If you think Tobirama is running up and completely dominating Itachi in CQ because of that you're wrong, if Tobirama's clones jump him in CQC a exploding clone could take out his clones in close quarters.

· All he has to do is sense Itachi's chakra build up and where it's focused.

· Clones once again dismantles Itachi.

• Again Itachi's genjustu can't be snsed so him trying to see the build up won't work.
• Again clones can be countered by Itachi's own.

· Exploding shadow clones are dodged effortlessly not only will Tobirama and his clones sense the chakra build up in them but his reaction speed would also help him dodge that tech. Clones are used for countering genjutsu. How isn't Itachi genjutsu getting picked up by a sensor when genjutsu will need to be focused in the certain part of his body via Eyes or fingers thus Tobirama will know when/where the genjutsu will appear.

Tobirama's clones aren't evading a point blank explosion from Itachi's clones. Again Tobirama's footspeed isn't vastly superior to Itachi's at all them getting effortless dodged is a joke, if Tobirama's clones do sense the build up at the last second it's useless because they won't fast enough to avoid the explosion.

End result. Itachi isn't dodging Tobirama's impressive striking speed. Exploding clones are dodges with ease. Suiton maxxes out Katon techs Itachi gets raped in cqc anything else?

Jesus take the wheel.

 

[Jugram Haschwalth]

Itachi reacted to Kirin at point blank I doubt getting blitzed and managing to stick a paper bomb is mindless Jubbito is leagues better, Tobirama's reaction speed is overrated because of his. Tobirama striking speed wasn't even go enough to tag SM while using FTG to appear out of nowhere, while Itachi has also evaded a assault from KCM Naruto and Bee at the same time and retreated before Naruto and Bee could even take a regular stance afterwards. If you think Tobirama is running up and completely dominating Itachi in CQ because of that you're wrong, if Tobirama's clones jump him in CQC a exploding clone could take out his clones in close quarters.

Itachi reacted to Kirin? Hardly a feat you should bring up here when Sasuke literally talked to him about the jutsu it's not like he didn't see it coming and reacted to it. Point blank range no. PBR is directly in your face

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so yet another one of your arguments can be put to rest.. It is leagues better since he tagged someone multiple times faster than himself. Basically if he can tag Juubito Itachi doesn't stand a chance at dodging all of his attacks while in cqc and then there's the multiple clones attacking Itachi as well. Now are we comparing SM Madara reactions to Itachi? Blind Madara nearly blitzed SM Naruto who can dodge and counter attack the 3rd Raikage with v1 armor. That is just an impressive reaction speed feat on SM Madara's behalf it still doesn't debunk what Tobirama already did it just proves how fast SM Madara can react. Neither of them can compete with Tobirama in cqc so another moot point to bring to your arguments. Also Obito paths did the same thing(Keeping up with Bee and KCM Naruto) this feat should be used as impressive when Rinnegan shared vision accomplished this. Didn't i already counter that now your reposting rubbish.

• Again Itachi's genjustu can't be snsed so him trying to see the build up won't work.
• Again clones can be countered by Itachi's own.

Why can't it be sensed? You never elaborated on this claim? Itachi gets simply out cloned if need be on top of that his clones would get ravaged in the cqc battle just like him; so trying to match clones with clones isn't a good idea especially when your opponent has the chakra/stamina advantage and the speed advantage.

Tobirama's clones aren't evading a point blank explosion from Itachi's clones. Again Tobirama's footspeed isn't vastly superior to Itachi's at all them getting effortless dodged is a joke, if Tobirama's clones do sense the build up at the last second it's useless because they won't fast enough to avoid the explosion.

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but Tobirama Kage bushins aren't and they have sensory on top on better reaction time/speed over part 1 Kakashi. You just spit agruments without reading the manga or atleast going over it to make sure it has some relevance.

Jesus take the wheel.

That would be best.

 

[-Akuma-]

Itachi reacted to Kirin? Hardly a feat you should bring up here when Sasuke literally talked to him about the jutsu it's not like he didn't see it coming and reacted to it. Point blank range no. PBR is directly in your face

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so yet another one of your arguments can be put to rest.. It is leagues better since he tagged someone multiple times faster than himself. Basically if he can tag Juubito Itachi doesn't stand a chance at dodging all of his attacks while in cqc and then there's the multiple clones attacking Itachi as well. Now are we comparing SM Madara reactions to Itachi? Blind Madara nearly blitzed SM Naruto who can dodge and counter attack the 3rd Raikage with v1 armor. That is just an impressive reaction speed feat on SM Madara's behalf it still doesn't debunk what Tobirama already did it just proves how fast SM Madara can react. Neither of them can compete with Tobirama in cqc so another moot point to bring to your arguments. Also Obito paths did the same thing(Keeping up with Bee and KCM Naruto) this feat should be used as impressive when Rinnegan shared vision accomplished this. Didn't i already counter that now your reposting rubbish.



Why can't it be sensed? You never elaborated on this claim? Itachi gets simply out cloned if need be on top of that his clones would get ravaged in the cqc battle just like him; so trying to match clones with clones isn't a good idea especially when your opponent has the chakra/stamina advantage and the speed advantage.

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but Tobirama Kage bushins aren't and they have sensory on top on better reaction time/speed over part 1 Kakashi. You just spit agruments without reading the manga or atleast going over it to make sure it has some relevance.



That would be best.

Sasuke explaining the move and him being able to see the dragon while it's still in the sky doesn't mean shit, Zetsu even mentions the speed Kirin comes down at the foe, so Sasuke explaining the move and him seeing it had nothing to do with him being able to track it. Again Tobirama's speed it not more impressive, he got blitzed and tagged a unstable Juubito, who most likely through Tobirama was incapacitated while the rest of Tobirama's striking feats aren't really amazing. My point wasn't to compare SM Madara to Itachi but rather Madara to Juubito, Juubito should still be much faster while Tobirama couldn't land a hit on him even while using FTG twice. While Itachi has shown to be able to dodged people like KCM Naruto and Bee in CQC who should be comparable to Tobirama, Itachi being defenceless in CQC is a joke.

Ao stated Itachi's genjustu can work outside the range of sensors. As for clones Itachi being handled easily in CQC is a joke, so his clones getting wrecked is a joke. While Itachi doesn't have a lot of chakra he can make crow clones which take up less chakra.